NassimO & Blaholtzen's Team Fortress 2 Texture Improvement Project

[blaholtzen]

[QUOTE='[Z];32036087']why are the BLU's gloves different that the original?[/QUOTE]

to match team spirit

[editline]5th September 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Razi The Red;32035399]Been meaning to ask if you guys planned to do anything to the uber textures? Just out of curiosity really.[/QUOTE]

the pyro is the only one we'd need to do a texture but that's no problem, for the others there's already improved uber vmt's that uses the basetextures.

also I haven't had and won't have internet at home until the 8:th. So my work will resume then

[Shugo]

[QUOTE=blaholtzen;32123608]the pyro is the only one we'd need to do a texture but that's no problem, for the others there's already improved uber vmt's that uses the basetextures.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget Engineer, he needs glowy eyes too.

I made [url=http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99725]a good Uber texture improvement mod[/url] a while ago and I still have my work files with a transparent layer that adds the glowy eyes to the Engineer and Pyro. Granted, it doesn't use a vmt-basetexture combination like it sounds like you want to use, but if you ever get these finalized I can help make the Uber textures. (You can't get glowy eyes on Engineer and Pyro with vmt effects anyway...not with the Uber effects that is.)

[Hecates]

something to cheer people up (I guess)

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12892140/engie_gibs%20new.bmp[/img]

more gib reskins. just blood and small details.
may add something explosion related, maybe scorches.
the blu engineer skin is a placeholder, except for the head.

[RaccoonBro]

The bullet holes in the head look really out of place for someone that just exploded.

[Neo Kabuto]

[QUOTE=The freeman;32185078]The bullet holes in the head look really out of place for someone that just exploded.[/QUOTE]Having both the goggle lenses shattered would look neat, though.

[Sobek-]

Every time I see this thread I think "Oh awesome, a highres texture pack!". But then I remember it's character stuff :(

A (GOOD - I've seen that shit on FPSbanana) highres texture pack would be awesome I think. Something that really changes the whole style of the game as a refreshing change from all these promo items and reskins.

[Nzdjh]

[QUOTE=The freeman;32185078]The bullet holes in the head look really out of place for someone that just exploded.[/QUOTE]
It [i]could[/i] technically be shrapnel from the explosion.

But I agree regardless. They look really awkward at first glance.

[Hecates]

ahw... I really like making the bullet hole in the helmet... :( and it's also a "Meet the Spy" reference...
also, didn't want to make both goggles shattered 'cuz off the decapitations.
I'm trying to make it looks good for both de-heading and gibbing.
well, I better make a quick vote for that:

[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/zing.png[/img] for "remove that stupid hole from helmet!"
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/wrench.png[/img] for "replace the bullet hole for a crack."
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/information.png[/img] for "stop crying! u can leave it that way."
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/heart.png[/img] for "ok, looks decent. but add a crack on it."

[NeoDement]

[QUOTE=Shugo;32184512]Don't forget Engineer, he needs glowy eyes too.

I made [url=http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99725]a good Uber texture improvement mod[/url] a while ago and I still have my work files with a transparent layer that adds the glowy eyes to the Engineer and Pyro. Granted, it doesn't use a vmt-basetexture combination like it sounds like you want to use, but if you ever get these finalized I can help make the Uber textures. (You can't get glowy eyes on Engineer and Pyro with vmt effects anyway...not with the Uber effects that is.)[/QUOTE]
Hey, you could overlay the eyes in the same way the Natascha skin works. Check it's VMT, it could be helpful.

[Scizor]

[QUOTE=Hecates;32184617]something to cheer people up (I guess)

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12892140/engie_gibs%20new.bmp[/img]

more gib reskins. just blood and small details.
may add something explosion related, maybe scorches.
the blu engineer skin is a placeholder, except for the head.[/QUOTE]
Needs wounds.

[blaholtzen]

[QUOTE=Hecates;32184617]something to cheer people up (I guess)

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12892140/engie_gibs%20new.bmp[/img]

more gib reskins. just blood and small details.
may add something explosion related, maybe scorches.
the blu engineer skin is a placeholder, except for the head.[/QUOTE]

keep in mind that the head gibs need to make sense for both getting exploded and getting it chopped off by a demoknight. Bullet-holes however makes no sense.

[Shugo]

[QUOTE=blaholtzen;32235595]keep in mind that the head gibs need to make sense for both getting exploded and getting it chopped off by a demoknight. Bullet-holes however makes no sense.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, and it's too bad because the bullet hole details actually look really cool. [img]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/frown.gif[/img]

[Shugo]

Sort of off-topic, but I just realized that Hecates' picture is a bitmap (.BMP).

I don't think I've seen one of those since the nineties. :v:

[AlfieGroove]

[QUOTE=Shugo;32242991]Sort of off-topic, but I just realized that Hecates' picture is a bitmap (.BMP).

I don't think I've seen one of those since the nineties. :v:[/QUOTE]
Australian websites use them because they load from the bottom.

[Shugo]

Hey guys, thought this would be helpful: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1124313?p=32244540&viewfull=1#post32244540[/url]

NeoDement fixed some issues, as explained in the post. You should use this in your pack; it's a direct improvement over any other Uber texture mod thus far.

[Hecates]

sometimes I save files in BMP format for stupid reasons...
and, here's the crack! also, removed the goggle crack (think it's unnecessary since it's also a bullet hole) better?

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12892140/engie%20head.bmp[/img]

vote, NOW!

[Shugo]

Man, I REALLY like that bullet hole. Even if it doesn't make sense, I think it really adds.

[DohEntertainmen]

[QUOTE=Hecates;32245045]sometimes I save files in BMP format for stupid reasons...
and, here's the crack! also, removed the goggle crack (think it's unnecessary since it's also a bullet hole) better?

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12892140/engie%20head.bmp[/img]

vote, NOW![/QUOTE]
I suggest changing it from a bullet hole to a crack, simple.

[Hecates]

Ok, let's try something else here.
I'm now proposing to remove all the goggle and maybe hardhat details (crack or bullet hole, not necessarily the blood) for decapitation reason, cuz cutting any off the character's head off wouldn't make glass break (not engie's goggles neither sniper's glasses) or break the hardhat (or soldier's helmet). Yes, I want to change the hardhat skin back to a plain non damaged one. BUT, before any crazy drama discussion starts, understand that all the details that I'm trying to put into this textures are merely visual, but it's also to make the games looks better, consistent AND funny.
Look, I replace my giblets textures for something new and that I can recognize better all the time just to make things more into the TF2 style (and better on the screen shots), but not always show or release all off them to public for lazy reasons. This may be the first time that I'm asking for a public opinion on the development of them too.
For example: The old and very first gib texture I made had the crappy blocky blood splashes that are in the game. (to horrible to show! not released and deleted) [url=http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/89549]The second one[/url] was the first release (not to mentioning the non bloody skins for the giblets), which used the amazing [url=http://www.gamebanana.com/sprites/106]Exaggerated Blood Decals[/url] by dDefinder, that also started to be my all game decals for blood and blood impacts. The third one was just going to be an updated version of the second one with new giblet's faces skin, using a more convincing, non BETA looking and accurate to the final model skin. Those was made, they are done. BUT, taking a look at the "Meet the Spy" and now the "Meet the Medic" videos (Meet the Soldier too if you notice the blood that comes from spy's mouth at the very end) made me think that that blood style they used on the shorts should also be in the game, NOT THE CRAPPY BLOCKY ONE!
That's why I decided to make this new version. It has all the face details I wanted to update and a plus, new blood style! I'm also making new decals to goes with them (u can download a BETA [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12892140/blood_decals_v0.1.rar]HERE[/url]).
So, when you guys say "Change it, it's simple" I must say "No, It's NOT!". The limitation of the number of models used by Valve, making decapitation using the same giblets from the exploded body parts, makes EVERYTHING worst! You must admit that the original skin sucks and decapitated heads don't looks like something that just exploded! You can't also distinguish the BLU team giblet's from the RED team, and they have low quality even on high resolution! If they could at least add a third skin for the head giblets it would be a hell of a conquest! BUT, since we have to use the same from explosions I think the best would be making one that could work for both sides... And can mean the use of no unnecessary cracks or wounds. This should looks funny not realistic. right? So, what you think? No crack, no wounds, no bullet holes and just blood splashes on the neck and some minor splashes over the hats?
I also find out amazing that some people want's to make new models for the gibs. I would really love seem them working with the funny face expressions on the heads along with those chicken bones popping out from the edge of some of the limbs. Just don't forget to make them giggles when hitting the floor...

[A B.A. Survivor]

I swear I read the same sentence 6 times.

[Enth]

Too bad the gibs can't be jiggleboned or ragdolled without it being impractical.

It would be funny to see a head gib with the jaw open and the tongue sticking out.

[Theobromine F.]

Has anyone else noticed thet the blu pyro in the OP is holding a red flame-thrower.

[OxIGeZ]

[QUOTE=Theobromine F.;32251053]Has anyone else noticed thet the blu pyro in the OP is holding a red flame-thrower.[/QUOTE]
Probably because you can't change equipped weapon's skins in HLMV

[Theobromine F.]

[QUOTE=blaholtzen;30959365]That is what I meant[/QUOTE]
Why is'nt there a "shock and awe" rating.

[BreakinBenny]

You know, Shugo. I have to ask about Engie's Gunslinger [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/100580"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/100580[/URL], Medic's Backpack [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99558"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99558[/URL] and Sniper's Glasses [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99512"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99512[/URL]. What about them? Will they also get their improved Über texture mod similiar to that one by NeoDement?

[Shugo]

[QUOTE=BenjaminTennison;32252343]You know, Shugo. I have to ask about Engie's Gunslinger [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/100580"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/100580[/URL], Medic's Backpack [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99558"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99558[/URL] and Sniper's Glasses [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99512"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99512[/URL]. What about them? Will they also get their improved Über texture mod similiar to that one by NeoDement?[/QUOTE]

Not unless someone wants to update them to work again. They require custom models. Medic's backpack is a trivial thing that doesn't really need a fix anyway. Engineer's Gunslinger is the only thing that's actually broken.

The Sniper glasses are already in the pack.

[Hecates]

[QUOTE=BenjaminTennison;32252343]You know, Shugo. I have to ask about Engie's Gunslinger [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/100580"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/100580[/URL], Medic's Backpack [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99558"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99558[/URL] and Sniper's Glasses [URL="http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99512"]http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99512[/URL]. What about them? Will they also get their improved Über texture mod similiar to that one by NeoDement?[/QUOTE]

Medic's backpack "fix" is updated with the new bodygroups. It just don't uses the same vmt format for the uber texture, but that's an easy thing to do now. The engineer model for the gunslinger fix need the new bodygroups...

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[URL=http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/99558]Medic's Backpack[/URL] is now using the new uber texture vmt files. just click the link for download.

[Ponzy]

Do these include custom Normal Maps?

[mr. jago]

[QUOTE=lol user;32477246]Do these include custom Normal Maps?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1066631?p=31951226&viewfull=1#post31951226[/url]

[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1066631?p=31957858&viewfull=1#post31957858[/url]

no sorry

[Ponzy]

[QUOTE=Agent Fedora;32477625][url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1066631?p=31951226&viewfull=1#post31951226[/url]

[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1066631?p=31957858&viewfull=1#post31957858[/url]

no sorry[/QUOTE]

Damn, that's some nice Normals