I find it funny how everyone started complaining about natascha just recently, back then nobody seemed to care about it's slow down effect. At first some people talked about demoknights being annoying as hell, to which others answered: "Use natascha".
Now here we are, at least a year after the release of Heavy update, IIRC. What will be the next complaint?
[QUOTE=HyperTails;26481054]Same with Worms[/QUOTE]
And all the other promo items like Parasite, Ellis, Poker Night, etc.
[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;26481019]They preordered the game that had the head attached to it, so they got it.
[b]Same goes for bill's hat, people who preordered l4d2 got it again in the beta.[/b][/QUOTE]
Actually today when I played the beta I said jokingly "Trading my Bill's hat for 1 scrap" knowing the trading wouldn't work when someone said "You can't get the Bill's hat in the beta" I tried to explain that you can but they wouldn't listen. Though someone said "He probably traded it from the regular TF2 to Beta" :downs:
[QUOTE=OffTheRoad;26483183]I find it funny how everyone started complaining about natascha just recently, back then nobody seemed to care about it's slow down effect. At first some people talked about demoknights being annoying as hell, to which others answered: "Use natascha".
Now here we are, at least a year after the release of Heavy update, IIRC. What will be the next complaint?[/QUOTE]
Nobody complained before because natascha was fine
but if you remember, valve buffed the heavy by increasing the spinup speed and the movement speed while spinning
that shifted natascha into overpowered territory
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;26482214]In my opinion, you should get stopped less if you're further away from the Natascha-wielding heavy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=pebkac;26481457]Why did they feel the natascha needs such a huge nerf? Who the hell would go play heavy with -75HP? The only reasonable version is the one with the slower spinup time, but even that is quite a disadvantage.[/QUOTE]
Natascha deserves a nerf
as it is, hit someone once and you're 99% gonna kill them.
It needs a nerf, but all the ones in the beta are unusable, they've been nerfed stupidly.
Making the original minigun the only possible choice.
The third variant with the slower spinup is completely fine and is exactly how it should be.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26483478]Nobody complained before because natascha was fine
but if you remember, valve buffed the heavy by increasing the spinup speed and the movement speed while spinning
that shifted natascha into overpowered territory[/QUOTE]
Apparently they also tightened up the cone of fire.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26483478]Nobody complained before because natascha was fine
but if you remember, valve buffed the heavy by increasing the spinup speed and the movement speed while spinning
that shifted natascha into overpowered territory[/QUOTE]
Yes, but the main topic of discussion is the slow down effect, which wasn't affected by these two buffs that much.
Silly question ahead: I have the cut German version of TF2 and while silly gibs can be funny, I overall think good old normal blood looks much less out of place. The Beta is uncut for everyone, does anyone think it's possible to copy around some files to make the "real" TF2 uncut as well?
Probably not, but I thought there might be a possibility since the file structures are similar.
I think you can just ask Steam Support to deactivate the flag on your account which makes games use the cut content.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;26484482]Silly question ahead: I have the cut German version of TF2 and while silly gibs can be funny, I overall think good old normal blood looks much less out of place. The Beta is uncut for everyone, does anyone think it's possible to copy around some files to make the "real" TF2 uncut as well?
Probably not, but I thought there might be a possibility since the file structures are similar.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/28/bloodpatch-for-team-fortress-2-german/[/url]
[url]http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Blood_patch[/url]
I already heard people complaining Natascha's UP now because of the healing removing the slowdown.
[editline]4th December 2010[/editline]
Furthermore, he said the normal Natascha's UP right now and wouldn't need a nerf.
I'm suprised people craft their weapons to hats as the first thing they do in TF2 Beta, even though there are no drops.
If there are no drops, there are no weapons.
And if most of your weapons is crafted into a hat, you can't do half of the achievements to get achievement-rewarded weapons because you don't have the weapons required to do it. Are people THIS desperate for hats?
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;26485380]I'm suprised people craft their weapons to hats as the first thing they do in TF2 Beta, even though there are no drops.
If there are no drops, there are no weapons.
And if most of your weapons is crafted into a hat, you can't do half of the achievements to get achievement-rewarded weapons because you don't have the weapons required to do it. Are people THIS desperate for hats?[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have a hat than achievments, tbh.
snip, bad dick joke
achievements are disabled
[QUOTE=Omolong;26484545]I think you can just ask Steam Support to deactivate the flag on your account which makes games use the cut content.[/QUOTE]
I tried, but they just said German laws be German laws and I should try import it from the UK - and I certainly won't go that far for a bit virtual gore.
Maybe it's because I wrote to a German guy (or at least he wrote German) since I've read many people just got rid of censorship like you described. No luck for me I guess.
[QUOTE=JGillo;26484577][url]http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/28/bloodpatch-for-team-fortress-2-german/[/url]
[url]http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Blood_patch[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the links, but I already used Google plenty of times for this. These blood patches have either been patched by Valve (oh the irony), are outdated, screw with the game and Steam languages or - apparently - corrupt files. Like I said, I appreciate the attempt tho.
[QUOTE=GastricTank;26482768]The Dalakohs bar now has a use. It can nullify most of the HP penalty, or just having a Medic tag along with you.[/QUOTE]
I wonder who would win if an overhealed heavy-medic pair with the -75hp natascha came up against a sasha heavy.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;26486111]I tried, but they just said German laws be German laws and I should try import it from the UK - and I certainly won't go that far for a bit virtual gore.
Maybe it's because I wrote to a German guy (or at least he wrote German) since I've read many people just got rid of censorship like you described. No luck for me I guess.
Thanks for the links, but I already used Google plenty of times for this. These blood patches have either been patched by Valve (oh the irony), are outdated, screw with the game and Steam languages or - apparently - corrupt files. Like I said, I appreciate the attempt tho.[/QUOTE]
The blood patch has been patched by Valve. What it does now is it marks all the files in the "team fortress 2 low violence" GCF as absolute and not allowed to be modded and if it detects mods for those files installed, it outright deletes them (I think...I haven't used low violence mods in a while).
Your only recourse is either to contact Steam Support and get them to deactivate the content lock on your account or, if you live in a country that mandates video game censorship like Germany, deal with it. v:v:v
[QUOTE=xpod1;26486033]achievements are disabled[/QUOTE]
oh my god you just keep going and going :doh:
no they're all obtainable
Say if you used S.A.M. to get the Gibus achievement, would you get the Gibus? Or does the Beta just not give you any items at all, apart those from the start?
I tried just jumping in and playing but I forgot I hadn't installed my custom configurations so it was weird and felt awkward playing with default settings.
If it wasn't so huge a download I would probably take part in the beta, seeing the game without hats and being ale to test things out before they are included would be a nice thin to do. but my internet connection would not allow such fun.
The engineer building animations are so smooth, and so are the horseman's
I just made a TF2 Beta CVar list. Anyone want me to post it here?
[QUOTE=Hell-met;26487994]The engineer building animations are so smooth, and so are the horseman's[/QUOTE]
What?
It still isn't in my games list.
:v: Crafted most of my weapons into metal.
Welp.
[QUOTE=mars7a;26491156]:v: Crafted most of my weapons into metal.
Welp.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand, why do people keep doing this?
[QUOTE=CrazyBaconLegs;26491255]I don't understand, why do people keep doing this?[/QUOTE]
because they're idiots
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