Valve and their laziness with the loch-n-load - Games

[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;26806478]Actually, this should be the Loch-N-Load stats: +20% damage Explodes on contact with enemies or surfaces -25% clip size +20% projectile speed Can fire two grenades at once by pressing M2[/QUOTE] tell me how ima keep my 8 stickies alive and shot the 2 pipes at once?

[QUOTE=C4rnage;26806569]tell me how ima keep my 8 stickies alive and shot the 2 pipes at once?[/QUOTE] Just figured that out. My bad, looks like this thing won't be able to fire out 2 pipes at once..

The site on at the top of the loch-n-load is off too. (Clipping)

It's not valve that's lazy, but the guy who submitted the model. Looks like he just used the normal grenade launcher animations for the hands and body.

I'm fine with the bombs shattering with the LaL, but I wish the bombs didn't dissapear with the generic spark particles. Instead, I wish there were a few small grenade gibs (sort of like when the Razorback breaks) that would fly off from where the grenade hit.

[QUOTE=dark soul;26806656]It's not valve that's lazy, but the guy who submitted the model. Looks like he just used the normal grenade launcher animations for the hands and body.[/QUOTE] Yeah, when someone gives me *item* I just put it into the game as is.

I'd say maybe something like this: -50% Clip Size +10-20 Damage Dealt -30% Blast Radius +10% Projectile Speed +Charging the Loch n' Load makes the projectile go faster, at full charge it fires both pipes. Pipes Explode on contact Thoughts?

[QUOTE=dark soul;26806656]It's not valve that's lazy, but the guy who submitted the model. Looks like he just used the normal grenade launcher animations for the hands and body.[/QUOTE] That's not really the creator's responsibility or problem. Since animations are not required with contributions.

I thought it was a really good weapon. Until I switched back to the grenade launcher and realized you can do the exact same thing, with a larger clip size, and bounce them around walls. The grenades need to explode when they come into contact with surfaces AT LEAST.

I'd say: -50% clip size +10% damage done -10% blast radius Both pipes can be launched simultaneously, holding either mouse button will charge the pipes, making them fly faster and further. -25% slower reload time

[QUOTE=Chilblain;26806789]I'd say maybe something like this: -50% Clip Size +10-20 Damage Dealt -30% Blast Radius +10% Projectile Speed +Charging the Loch n' Load makes the projectile go faster, at full charge it fires both pipes. Pipes Explode on contact Thoughts?[/QUOTE] -50% Clip Size +50% Blast Radius +Pipes Explode on surfaces I just want a demoman weapon that lets me rocket jump. Perfect for demoknights.

Talking about valve lazyness dont forget this: Bottle = [img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/b/b2/Item_icon_Bottle.png/100px-Item_icon_Bottle.png[/img] Bottle o' scrumpy = [img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/9/94/Item_icon_Eyelander.png/100px-Item_icon_Eyelander.png[/img][img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/4/4b/Item_icon_Pain_Train.png/100px-Item_icon_Pain_Train.png[/img][img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/c/c6/Item_icon_Scotsman%27s_Skullcutter.png/100px-Item_icon_Scotsman%27s_Skullcutter.png[/img][img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/c/c1/Item_icon_Frying_Pan.png/100px-Item_icon_Frying_Pan.png[/img][img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/1/1f/Item_icon_Horseless_Headless_Horsemann%27s_Headtaker.png/100px-Item_icon_Horseless_Headless_Horsemann%27s_Headtaker.png[/img][img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/9/92/Item_icon_Claidheamohmor.png/100px-Item_icon_Claidheamohmor.png[/img][img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/a/a5/Item_icon_Ullapool_Caber.png/100px-Item_icon_Ullapool_Caber.png[/img][img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/b/b2/Item_icon_Bottle.png/100px-Item_icon_Bottle.png[/img]

Not to mention he STILL drinks out of the axe and pan.

Maybe he just likes drinking bacon fat. Sheesh.

I was disappointed when I crafted it. I thought that by the way the description said it, it would simply explode on any surface, like walls and stuff. Instead, it makes freaking sparks and vanishes.

[QUOTE=JustGman;26808413]I was disappointed when I crafted it. I thought that by the way the description said it, it would simply explode on any surface, like walls and stuff. Instead, it makes freaking sparks and vanishes.[/QUOTE] It says SHATTERS on surfaces, not explode.

They didn't even change the damn gun sound.

I think we can all agree that the loch-n-load is broken and WILL be fixed in the future. Hopefully it won't be "fixed" in the same way they "fixed" natascha.

[QUOTE=Ryenoru;26808988]I think we can all agree that the loch-n-load is broken and WILL be fixed in the future. Hopefully it won't be "fixed" in the same way they "fixed" natascha.[/QUOTE] i am afraid of valve-time and those fixes

[QUOTE=TraderRager;26807011]-50% Clip Size +50% Blast Radius +Pipes Explode on surfaces I just want a demoman weapon that lets me rocket jump. Perfect for demoknights.[/QUOTE] Sounds a bit OP

[QUOTE=Nukle;26809337]Sounds a bit OP[/QUOTE] -No Random Crits K it's balanced

I kind of feel this is a subtle way of showing TF2's slow decline in quality. Don't get me wrong, the gameplay and everything is as good as ever, but little things like animations and view models keep getting shittier. It's always the things that don't have an effect on the actual game, but the things that people notice.

I think valve were trying to be careful not to end up just giving demomen a rocket launcher

And no one is even the slightest bit pissed that after 3 years valve hasn't fixed the fucking grenade launcher model?

[QUOTE=yuki;26811713]And no one is even the slightest bit pissed that after 3 years valve hasn't fixed the fucking grenade launcher model?[/QUOTE] no, because someone made a fix to that long time ago

[QUOTE=C4rnage;26812111]no, because someone made a fix to that long time ago[/QUOTE] Valve hasn't fixed their own game, is what I'm saying.

Valve should pay more attention to fixing minor problems rather than adding more half-finished items to the game.

When I saw this particular weapon, right from the original entry, I was almost certain that it would function like a bastard child of the Grenade Launcher and the FaN: Clicking once sets off both "barrels" at the same time, followed by an annoying reload. Spike damage vs overall damage and whatnot. Of course, that would've required the TF2 team to make a reload animation which actually fits the thing...

[QUOTE=iKey;26808487]It says SHATTERS on surfaces, not explode.[/QUOTE] It doesn't do ANYTHING on surfaces.

Why can't they just make it do very little damage on a miss? So it's best to get direct hits, but you can try to finish off weaker enemies by shooting at their feet.