Why kids should keep out of TF2 - Games

This why the mann co store should have just used an in-game currency

[QUOTE=shadowray7;26712459]This why the mann co store should have just used an in-game currency[/QUOTE] But how would Valve make loadsofmoney?

Usually when games use local currencies and ask for credit card information they mean real money BUT NO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLARIFIED

[QUOTE=shadowray7;26712459]This why the mann co store should have just used an in-game currency[/QUOTE] Wouldn't change the matter for many people, but could make it worse*. If he told the truth, people mixing up real with fake money should be a tiny minority of the amount of people that go nuts with the store and regret it later. *It's actually a marketing strategy to make a fake currency that translates so higher numbers than the original number, for example $1 equals to 100 Tokens. The further away you are from the real money (hence the tokens) the less you are as responsible with it as you would be with money and the higher the numbers, the smaller your feeling for the actual amount becomes and the easier you're tricked into thinking you actually have loads of money still left when it's really just 50c or something.

[QUOTE=A Noobcake;26710000]A Norwegian 13-year old spent 4,500€ in the Mann. Co store with his father's credit card, [B]claiming he thought he was spending fictive money.[/B] [/QUOTE] I'm calling bullshit, nowhere in-game has it ever says you have x ammount of ingame money, and it asks for credit card info everytime. Also, how could any idiot think they have THAT much money when they just bought it? Kid may be lieing. This is just my opinion though.

[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;26710011]Isn't TF2 18+?[/QUOTE] Regardless, it is a mature game, yet the majority of the fan base are "immature" who have affected this game in so many, immature way, through the community action. Like some ridiculous hats etc that do not fit in a [b]mature online mayhem game[/b], which is all about murdering people online with badass looking distinguish hero-class! :dance: One can dream...

[QUOTE=KillRay;26712534]I'm calling bullshit, nowhere in-game has it ever says you have x ammount of ingame money, and it asks for credit card info everytime. Also, how could any idiot think they have THAT much money when they just bought it? Kid may be lieing. This is just my opinion though.[/QUOTE] Yeah, kid's probably lying. I got into an...uh...[i]similar[/i] situation with my father back when I was young and foolish and on...eBay...and yeah, I lied through my teeth about not knowing etc. and playing innocent. :v:

[QUOTE=Shugo;26712814]Yeah, kid's probably lying. I got into an...uh...[i]similar[/i] situation with my father back when I was young and foolish and on...eBay...and yeah, I lied through my teeth about not knowing etc. and playing innocent. :v:[/QUOTE] Tried buying some Jesus toast?

I'd feel horrible if I was that kid.

$4500? valve should put a limit on items bought before something like this happens again to a 12 year old boy

[QUOTE=Stizzles;26712952]I'd feel horrible if I was that kid.[/QUOTE] Yeah, especially now that he's made the news. :v: I've always wondered what it feels like to do something bad and then get onto national news. Fuck, I'd be ashamed as hell. [editline]15th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Holymackeral;26713045]$4500? valve should put a limit on items bought before something like this happens again to a 12 year old boy[/QUOTE] I hate it when limits like that are imposed on everyone just because one dumbass didn't understand the system. Reminds me of those people who had their Steam accounts disabled just for buying $500 worth of TF2 keys. So what if they want to buy $500 of keys? That's their damn choice.

[QUOTE=Holymackeral;26713045]$4500? valve should put a limit on items bought before something like this happens again to a 12 year old boy[/QUOTE] Was going to specify the OP says 4500[b]€[/b], then re-checked the conversions on XE. 27,000 kroner (NOK) = ~$4500 USD = ~3600€ (EUR)

[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;26712530]Wouldn't change the matter for many people, but could make it worse*. If he told the truth, people mixing up real with fake money should be a tiny minority of the amount of people that go nuts with the store and regret it later. *It's actually a marketing strategy to make a fake currency that translates so higher numbers than the original number, for example $1 equals to 100 Tokens. The further away you are from the real money (hence the tokens) the less you are as responsible with it as you would be with money and the higher the numbers, the smaller your feeling for the actual amount becomes and the easier you're tricked into thinking you actually have loads of money still left when it's really just 50c or something.[/QUOTE] Reminds me of Microsoft points, this just made me realise how the options to buy them makes it so you buy more points than you really need. Greedy bastards.

I would laugh if valve pulled the store just because of this incident. Unlikely as it is a rare case. But I would laugh anyway. Parents shouldn't even let their kids know their credit/ debit card details. If the kid was using the parents Steam account they should have ticked that box to stop it from remembering info (god damn useful to remember it though, last minute purchases on the move are fun).

[QUOTE=biodude94566;26713168]Was going to specify the OP says 4500[b]€[/b], then re-checked the conversions on XE. 27,000 kroner (NOK) = ~$4500 USD = ~3600€ (EUR)[/QUOTE] Hoops, my bad.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;26713503]I would laugh if valve pulled the store just because of this incident. [/QUOTE] Hey I suddenly don`t think that kid is as dumb.

Hum....isn't TF2 RATED M? those people are stupid fucks

UK box says 15 on it... If you looked through the posts on the front page you WOULD know.

[QUOTE=A Noobcake;26710000]The article heavily implies TF2 to be a gambling game, claiming the kid gambled away the money in the game. [/QUOTE] TF2 does have a lot of gambling in it though. The reason they bypass online gambling laws is because you always win something, and a lawyer or something can't prove in a court that a digital robot arm is less valued than a digital cowboy hat. In my opinion its very shady, but they get away with it through loopholes like that.

Backpack link requested

[QUOTE=MrCasual;26717895]TF2 does have a lot of gambling in it though. The reason they bypass online gambling laws is because you always win something, and a lawyer or something can't prove in a court that a digital robot arm is less valued than a digital cowboy hat. In my opinion its very shady, but they get away with it through loopholes like that.[/QUOTE] ...What? It's not gambling, gambling involves taking a risk. The only risks in this game are shit you see in EVERY FPS game.

Fuck, I can't even get past the first sentence without spazzing out.

[quote]The account of his father was tapped for over 30 innings since March 2010.[/quote] That's a little over 3 days during baseball season. And it seems like they punished the kid by making him wait a little longer to get games and they reduced his gameplay...

I read the article and noticed a good number of grammatical errors, and I'm just a dumb high school student. :v: Plus, as it's been stated, the "facts" seem extremely biased, uninformed, and almost like a personal attack at TF2 and a defense at the boy. I mean.. The kid's 13. Say what you want to about 13 year olds, but remember when you were 13. You weren't [i]that[/i] stupid. You knew at least basics of online transactions and that nothing in the world is free. I say the kid knew he was spending all of his dad's money and then just blamed the game.

[QUOTE=DominationDarre;26721308]I read the article and noticed a good number of grammatical errors, and I'm just a dumb high school student. :v:[/QUOTE] You do know it's been translated, right?

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;26721359]You do know it's been translated, right?[/QUOTE] *facepalms* Damn. Guess I knew it, but didn't really think about it when posting. My bad.

How in the FUCK is not not clear that it is real money when you require a credit card to buy it? You'd have to be on at least 5 different levels of retarded to do this shit. I'm 15 and this is just so dumb to me I could smack MYSELF.

I can kinda see how it happened to the kid. At most, I'd expect this incident to make the Mann co store get a lot of disclaimers plastered on it, and Crates and keys getting new descriptions saying "Warning: You have a 1% chance of getting something you don't already have ten of"

Thread title should be "Why [i]dumb[/i] kids should keep out of TF2"

[QUOTE=Billy2600;26726004]Thread title should be "Why [i]dumb[/i] [b]people[/b] should keep out of TF2"[/QUOTE] Further corrected.