[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;23070328]Since you seem incapable of reading the bolded parts in the OP;[/QUOTE]
OP edited that in when he realized nobody agreed.
[img]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/2aaa00mahroom.png[/img]
(Bad 5 minute mock up of my room) "Fuck this..."
The next threads by overseer no. 2:
[I]Class tokens[/I]
Can't play the class if you don't have the token.
[I]Movement Tokens[/I]
Forward, backward, left, right, crouch, jump, doublejump. You need the tokens.
[I]Output tokens[/I]
Want video? get the token. Same with audio.
[I]Option tokens[/I]
Nope, you can't report a bug, you don't have the token. Changing video options you say? Go idle for the token.
[quote=latin_geek;23070644]the next threads by overseer no. 2:
[i]class tokens[/i]
can't play the class if you don't have the token.
[i]movement tokens[/i]
forward, backward, left, right, crouch, jump, doublejump. You need the tokens.
[i]output tokens[/i]
want video? Get the token. Same with audio.
[i]option tokens[/i]
nope, you can't report a bug, you don't have the token. Changing video options you say? Go idle for the token.[/quote]
you see? Now thats a funny joke!
Really? :swoon: that's the first time someone said that about one of my posts in like a month.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;23070644]The next threads by overseer no. 2:
[I]Class tokens[/I]
Can't play the class if you don't have the token.
[I]Movement Tokens[/I]
Forward, backward, left, right, crouch, jump, doublejump. You need the tokens.
[I]Output tokens[/I]
Want video? get the token. Same with audio.
[I]Option tokens[/I]
Nope, you can't report a bug, you don't have the token. Changing video options you say? Go idle for the token.[/QUOTE]
ok, i really laughed at that ;D
but its still amazing how many people dont see what this thread is about.
Overseer, nice work. feel yourself rep'd, althought that doesnt exist here ;)
its actually amazing considering these arguments and trying to come up with a legit counter-argument. you had quite some good points in there which made me think. please, continue making threads like this, and nevermind them dimwits ;)
EDIT:
[QUOTE=latin_geek;23070754]Really? :swoon: that's the first time someone said that about one of my posts in like a month.[/QUOTE]
glad that made you cheer up, its not like it was just someone from the internet who said th---
oh, wait.
The main problem is, satire's supposed to make you go "This guy is too stupid to live, is he even serious? ...Ooooh, wait, he's not! He's trying to show how stupid this idea is. I get it. :laugh:"
But on the internet, people just go "This guy is too stupid to live. What a retard. ...Ooooh, wait, he's not! He's just a troll. I get it."
:sigh:
[editline]07:45PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=frznbxy;23070772]Overseer, nice work. feel yourself rep'd, althought that doesnt exist here ;)
its actually amazing considering these arguments and trying to come up with a legit counter-argument. you had quite some good points in there which made me think. please, continue making threads like this, and nevermind them dimwits ;)[/QUOTE]
This.
[editline]07:49PM[/editline]
Now, how to fix the drop system? I have an idea I'll outline later. Basically, you can get "medals" for doing certain things as a class. Maybe a bronze medal for a triple kill as pyro, a silver medal for extinguishing 5 teammates in a life, a gold one for preventing a capture by 6 or more people... That kind of thing. And these would be the currency used to get weapons. It's not fleshed out, by any means, but I like it.
i dont, really, though :/
its basically just an altered achievement system. i go with what overseer said, add achievements for the new contribute! weapons as well.
generally, valve, add more achievements.
METAGAMING FTW!
Fuck this noise, if this came out you know the first thing I'd do? Decompile the maps, rename them, and give them to server admins. Bam. Giant ass loophole.
Your satire skills need more work though you seemed extremely serious.
[QUOTE=Uber_Tofu;23069660]Why Are You Writing Like This?[/QUOTE]
It's A Really Bad Habit.
[editline]10:02PM[/editline]
:smug:
[QUOTE=Mexican;23071130]Fuck this noise, if this came out you know the first thing I'd do? Decompile the maps, rename them, and give them to server admins. Bam. Giant ass loophole.
Your satire skills need more work though you seemed extremely serious.[/QUOTE]
i heard satire is best when every idiot can spot it right from the beginning.
Sun Tzu said that.
Okay, Overseer, here's why restricting maps is retarded.
If you don't have a certain weapon, you might just get frustrated or play a bit worse, but if you don't have a map token you can't play.
AT ALL.
I think I deserve the right to play whatever map I want whenever I wish, not just because I play the game more.
this thread makes me lose faith in humanity. not you, overseer, but everyone who boxed you.
[QUOTE=Mexican;23072252]he really didn't even make an attempt to show it was satire until that last line and most of us aren't willing to read all the way through a post that comes off as retarded so we'd never see that.[/QUOTE]
If you're not going to read the OP, don't reply to it.
he really didn't even make an attempt to show it was satire until that last line and most of us aren't willing to read all the way through a post that comes off as retarded so we'd never see that.
[QUOTE=_waffles_;23072223]this thread makes me lose faith in humanity. not you, overseer, but everyone who boxed you.[/QUOTE]
i totally understand you. the guy right between our posts, for instance.
[QUOTE=Mexican;23072252]he really didn't even make an attempt to show it was satire until that last line and most of us aren't willing to read all the way through a post that comes off as retarded so we'd never see that.[/QUOTE]No.
You are not going to use "I didn't read all of his argument" as a [i]justification[/i] in a debate.
[i]No[/i].
[QUOTE=Pennywise;23072308]No.
You are not going to use "I didn't read all of his argument" as a [i]justification[/i] in a debate.
[i]No[/i].[/QUOTE]
this ain't a debate
do you read every retarded ass thread all the way through on the off chance that it might end up being a parody?
[editline]11:17PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=frznbxy;23072287]i totally understand you. the guy right between our posts, for instance.[/QUOTE]
I didn't even rate so durp
[QUOTE=frznbxy;23071034]i dont, really, though :/
its basically just an altered achievement system. i go with what overseer said, add achievements for the new contribute! weapons as well.
generally, valve, add more achievements.
METAGAMING FTW![/QUOTE]
That's actually what I was thinking. I want to be able to get achievements multiple times. Try and collect more than your friends!
[editline]09:31PM[/editline]
Pennywise, _waffles_, frznbxy, we are battling against ignorance here. [i]And we are losing.[/i]
:ohdear:
Jesus christ you guys, I like Overseer and I appreciate the message he was trying to get out, I'm just saying he could have made it a little more obvious or else he should expect this shit.
I think he expected "this shit"
This idea would make me lose all faith in TF2
And then I log on this new map with the token I got and gloat all over the people on the server that haven't got the token... oh snap
[QUOTE=prop_dynamic;23074717]And then I log on this new map with the token I got and gloat all over the people on the server that haven't got the token... oh snap[/QUOTE]
thanks for thinking the thread idea over and extracting the exact meaning, i appreciate that.
[QUOTE=Mechtroid;23072460]Pennywise, _waffles_, frznbxy, we are battling against ignorance here.[/QUOTE]
i feel superior to the most people who posted in this thread because of this, although it's nothing more but an internet debate. FML.
and i totally brought this thread off-topic now. on the topic: the reason why the current item system isn't so bad that thousands of people complained about it is because, after a while, you are going to end up with all the weapons anyways. random drops and achievements let you have all unlockables pretty quick, and all community weapons after a bit longer. i can remember wanting the huntsman so bad, but not being very good at sniper, so the achievements didn't work for my advantage. however, now, i do own almost everything - i think i havent got a dalohkovs bar, thank god - so the fact that the current item system is unfair and unbalanced doesn't bother me as much anymore.
and overseer also said something about the balance of the unlockables itself.
it's true, there are quite some unlockables which are just so much better than the original that (almost) everybody is going to use them (equalizer, ubersaw), and vice versa (FaN, Razorback). that's not anybody's fault, though, but merely an unavoidable side effect of introducing different items; you just can't always make balanced ones, and the opinions on balance differ from player to player to. thank god valve also managed to introduce some PERFECTLY balanced items (kritzkrieg, natasha), so overall, i don't think all unlockables are equally balanced, but i don't mind it so much either; it's a premise almost unachieveable.
on a sidenote, the only unlockable i really, strongly dislike so far is the sword and targe. he is a DEMO-man, goddamnit, valve! just because you didn't have any ideas for DEMOLITION weapons besides the SR (which i think is a very good one, though, it just needs a buff at priming rates), don't make him a bloody KNIGHT! in the polycount thing, i saw a demo weapon i REALLY liked: a double-barrel'd grenade launcher, to shot 2 grenades at a time. obviously, this one would need a bit nerfing to adjust the balance, but i think it would have made for a great item, and certainly a better choice for the DEMO-man than a medievial revival.
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