[QUOTE=Galago;23222323]The community wrench is horrible. Just because the models are community, it seems Valve wants to shit all over the usefulness of it. The only useful community weapon so far is the Skullcutter, thankfully.[/QUOTE]
The Skullcutter is cool, but I think it's one of the worst weapons. It's so generic. More damage, less speed. That's it.
This weapon is a down grade.
I actually don't think this wrench is as bad as you guys are making it sound.
Its a spy checker for DEFENSIVE ENGINEER. There have been a lot of times where I'd whack the spy once with my wrench, and he'd get away. With this, teammates will see him, and he will die.
Then the fire vulnerability just doesn't matter a whole lot, because this wrench is best for defensive Engineer. So you likely won't have to worry too much about fire anyway - the main issue is keeping your buildings up.
I think it's fine - you're trading off the hope of getting a lucky crit to insta-kill a spy, for bleeding which almost SURELY kills the spy if teammates are nearby. I just wish it had some sort of building stats instead, rather than being a spy checker.
Only use for this would be bleeding out a spy who sapped your shit and ran away, but the no crits and stuff is really useless, it would have been better if it had a better buff like faster building rate or something.
[QUOTE=placeboing;23222549]Then the fire vulnerability just doesn't matter a whole lot, because this wrench is best for defensive Engineer. So you likely won't have to worry too much about fire anyway - the main issue is keeping your buildings up.[/QUOTE]
This.
[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;23222460]The Skullcutter is cool, but I think it's one of the worst weapons. It's so generic. More damage, less speed. That's it.[/QUOTE]
Like the eyelander, and the homewrecker, it has longer melee range. So you can get people from some tricky distances.
Pretty useless to me, since I always shotgun/pistol spies.
Thank god I didn't build that spy token...
I have an Ambassador, but no scrap metal, only refined and reclaimed
and now I remembered that you can decraft reclaimed into scrap :doh:
[QUOTE=Ishmael12;23220237]I got lucky and it was the first thing to drop for me after updating :v:[/QUOTE]
I have Two. :smug:
No Seriously, Look: [url]http://www.tf2items.com/id/BanHammerMaster[/url]
Well, I just crafted it, and it's actually not a bad alternative to the regular wrench, although it needs to be more noticable, I really don't feel like there's any difference between it and the wrench, the bleed damage is very minute. :sigh:
Decrafting is still disabled, apparently? I put a reclaimed into a crafting slot, and pressed the craft button, but it said "no blueprint available" or something.
Come on, Valve.
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No matching blueprint, I mean
Got an Ambassador, shrugged it off, then saw this thread.
:h: Thank you
I've already gotten like, two Southern Hospitalitys through random drops. It's not awful, but not great. I suppose for a defensive Engie, it's a relatively okay alternative to the wrench, for for an offensive Engie it's shit compared to the Gunslinger.
I had one ambassador left, sweet.
Eh, Just woke up. Off to farm shit. :smug:
Hope my PC won't bitch again..
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[URL="http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/56963"]Have this beauty, great for farming.[/URL]
[editline]07:26AM[/editline]
No build area, no budild are everywhere.
Damn.
Awesome.
I now have every Engie weapon.
[URL="http://tf2b.ather-tech.net/?id=SGTNAPALM"]Engineer did not get a Razorback silly[/URL]
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that was a joke about how tf2b shows all his items as 2 razorbacks a sandwich and a secondary Token
Don't worry. Give it a few weeks, they'll revamp the Southern Hospitality, just like they did with the Razorback.
Right now it sucks, but we can only hope it'll get better later.
[QUOTE=xpod1;23225083][URL="http://tf2b.ather-tech.net/?id=SGTNAPALM"]Engineer did not get a Razorback silly[/URL]
[editline]04:30AM[/editline]
that was a joke about how tf2b shows all his items as 2 razorbacks a sandwich and a secondary Token[/QUOTE]
For me it's a sandman, a scrap, and 2 sco res.
Fire damage is probably there to stop people from complaining about a nerf on build speed. Seems the only logical thing.
I got it yesterday by drop, about 10 mins after the engie update was released. I went to sleep happy.
Somehow I managed to get one in my backback, I didn't even realise a drop message for it and I didn't craft it.
Soon after I got another one through a drop.
I got pissed at crafting my ambassador away
then an hour after the update I find it so I didnt need to craft
I haven't found it and i'm not willing to craft my ambassador away :(
Ohh, such a tough choice. Craft my Ambassador, my long-time favourite Spy weapon alongside the Cloak-Dagger to get the new weapon, or hope that I find it by random drop..
The SH is a great weapon- I don't get why people think it's bad.
*Nocrit weapon- I'd rather rely on solid aim and playing rather than the chance to get a lucky crit.
*+Fire damage- Odd slapped on downside. Not much of one really, you're either entirely safe or completely fucked when you see a pyro, with or without the SH.
*Bleeding- extra damage AND spy tracking? This baby does 108 total damage or so with the bleeding. Count me in.
Oh, btw, save your spy weapons. It's not THAT worth it if you are a dedicated spy player. Plus it'll take weeks for it to redrop, guarenteed.
Still waiting for the damn drop rate to reset so I can have a go at crafting this weapon. All I'm missing is this and the Backburner, then I will be complete.
It's not underpowered, you just gotta use it right. You can hit most classes twice with it and get the hell away from them and they'll die by the bleeding. Pretty good weapon IMO, way better than that shitty robothand. Just stay a little back from your sentry in-case pyros come in to destroy it.
EDIT:
Also, you can hit cloaked spies and make them bleed so your teammates can help kill him.
Down grade?
I laughed so hard.
This is a complete [i]up[/i]grade for no crit servers/people who don't rely solely on luck to kill their enemies in a melee fight.
Pyros are countered by the engineer ridiculously hard with the sentry, this doesn't change that.
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