what if she had like high heels and a skin-tight suit or something
I don't know
final combat inspired sniper outfit....with less cleavage and high heels and more professional
[img]http://www.mondespersistants.com/images/screenshots/Final_Combat-306434881.jpg[/img]
[t]http://a.pomf.se/lvohqq.jpg[/t]
im really surprised that no one mentioned it
[QUOTE=e_k_M;44660071]final combat inspired sniper outfit....with less cleavage and high heels and more professional
[img]http://www.mondespersistants.com/images/screenshots/Final_Combat-306434881.jpg[/img]
[t]http://a.pomf.se/lvohqq.jpg[/t]
im really surprised that no one mentioned it[/QUOTE]
Concept :v: :
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/266564616/swag.jpg[/t]
perfect
[QUOTE=Omninerd;44655377]Eh, no one seems to have redone her face in these entries... We are allowed to do that, right?
Also, what Punchy asked earlier got me curious... We are allowed to have multiple entries, right?[/QUOTE]
[B]Yes, multiple entries are fine but remember guys, we're not starting the contest until May 5th.[/B]
And it's just her clothes, not her face. However, though I am still sticking with Makani's original Fem Sniper's face, I am re-modeling it since I had no idea what I was doing a year ago. You can follow the re-modeling process in [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1297123"]this thread[/URL].
[QUOTE=NeoDement;44646871]amused how everything posted so far just seems to be trying to make her look more like the male sniper
give her some shorts or something jesus[/QUOTE]
to be fair the one thing the male sniper has that the female doesn't is a design focused on emphasizing verticality, one single tall section of bright color flanked by two equally tall neutral colors. Sniper's tall yet lankiness is his main theme for class recognition because it visually demonstrates his range but limited close quarters strength. A lot of that is lost on the female sniper which just kind of has a cluttered, messy midsection with no real focus or design function.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;44661193]to be fair the one thing the male sniper has that the female doesn't is a design focused on emphasizing verticality, one single tall section of bright color flanked by two equally tall neutral colors. Sniper's tall yet lankiness is his main theme for class recognition because it visually demonstrates his range but limited close quarters strength. A lot of that is lost on the female sniper which just kind of has a cluttered, messy midsection with no real focus or design function.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with you on that. Not on the commentary about the original Sniper design (which is very true), but on the "messiness" of Fem Sniper's design. I choose Makani's design over others' because I felt it had a lot more thought put into it, and here's why:
If you look at Male Sniper, his design emphasizes his lanky-ness and, like most of the mercs, what makes him a man (the size of his jaw/hands/arms). Just look at his face; the lower portion of his face has much more weight than his upper, emphasizing his jawline (something that is much more prominent in males than in females).
[IMG]http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h394/Roxypox11/Model_help_zps0b495d59.jpg[/IMG]
Now take a look at Makani's Fem Sniper and her face. The shape of her face emphasizes the upper portion, drawing attention to her eyes instead of her jawline. As for the original design of her clothes, they're meant to draw your attention upwards towards her face instead of downards towards her feet like Male Sniper.
[IMG]http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h394/Roxypox11/formakani_femsniper_zps3a955073.jpg[/IMG]
My model is by no means perfect, so I probably didn't capture it as best as I could. Hopefully I achieve it in the redo.
Essentially, I felt that Makani's Fem Sniper design was a truer opposite compliment to Male Sniper's design. It's kind of silly, but you can think of it like Ying and Yang. They are opposite and different, but the underlying design structure is very similar.
messy was a bad word, I should have stuck with just cluttered. It's a lot of details in one area which breaks the vertical "flow" the original sniper's shirt has. I'm not really seeing a downward flow on the original sniper either, seems to gradient upwards in tone and density of detail
they are clothes
femsnipers clothes are less functional
the end
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;44661880]messy was a bad word, I should have stuck with just cluttered. It's a lot of details in one area which breaks the vertical "flow" the original sniper's shirt has. I'm not really seeing a downward flow on the original sniper either, seems to gradient upwards in tone and density of detail[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about shapes in regard to Male Sniper's design, not texture. For example, just look at how his arms taper. The gradient is there to draw your eye back up to his face, a common practice in character design.
I think I understand now what you're trying to say though. When you first look at Fem Sniper, your eye goes to her midsection instead of her face, since that's where a lot of details (color/silhouette changes) begin. While with Male Sniper, like you said, there's more details as you go upwards, drawing your eye right to his face.
It is indeed important to draw the eye to a character's face in the design itself. Makani however included the open midsection in Fem Sniper's design because it's a part of her personality (at least that is what she has told me), so it does have purpose. I'm not saying Makani's design is perfect by any means, but that's why we're doing this contest so you guys can contribute your ideas.
Sorry I misunderstood you before.
But Makani is a comics artist and she brings a comics artist's sensibilities to her art. Things are slightly different for game artists. It's perfectly fine for an SFM model, and it's not like that issue is a major pitfall for an in-game mod (the only reason I'm holding it to such high standards is how incredibly well designed the original classes are), there just could be some improvement in that aspect is all.
But yeah I'm honestly not sure how to change that without making it literally sniper's vest and shirt. Requires some creativity.
-snip-
[QUOTE=Punchy;44661923]they are clothes
femsnipers clothes are less functional
the end[/QUOTE]
Atleast way more functional than those :v:
[t]http://puu.sh/8p9g6.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Mitchel.;44668405]Atleast way more functional than those :v:
[t]http://puu.sh/8p9g6.png[/t][/QUOTE]it was a joke
[QUOTE=Flubbman;44668532]it was a joke[/QUOTE]
a terrible one tbh
[QUOTE=Constructor;44668909]a terrible one tbh[/QUOTE]
thanks
[QUOTE=e_k_M;44660071]final combat inspired sniper outfit....with less cleavage and high heels and more professional
[img]http://www.mondespersistants.com/images/screenshots/Final_Combat-306434881.jpg[/img]
[t]http://a.pomf.se/lvohqq.jpg[/t]
im really surprised that no one mentioned it[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UwzoizI.png[/IMG]
was bored.
got really lazy about half way through
[T]http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96869186/Other/FemSniper1.png[/T] [T]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96869186/Other/FemSniper2.png[/T]
Had some time to kill, and gave it a shot. Might touch it up later, add side view etc.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/E1xL1dT.png[/IMG]
the siiins never diee
[QUOTE=Py-Bun;44734397][img_thumb]http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/125/c/6/alternate_fem_sniper_clothes_entry___1_by_py_bun-d7hbhg5.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
This royally screws with team recognition. The most you'll be seeing of a sniper is probably the arms or the chest.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;44736522]This royally screws with team recognition. The most you'll be seeing of a sniper is probably the arms or the chest.[/QUOTE]
[img_thumb]http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/125/1/0/alternate_fem_sniper_clothes_entry___2_by_py_bun-d7hbi30.png[/img_thumb]
[QUOTE=Recurracy;44736522]This royally screws with team recognition. The most you'll be seeing of a sniper is probably the arms or the chest.[/QUOTE]
eh, if the t-shirt is waterlogged lab coat it'll be just fine tbh
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qwyBxDI.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44737002]eh, if the t-shirt is waterlogged lab coat it'll be just fine tbh
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qwyBxDI.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
But people will mistaken the sniper for being a heavy
I personally don't see why she needs a vest half the length of the male Snipers.
Why not just make the vest same length, hug her curves.
[QUOTE=CBO0tz;44748192]I personally don't see why she needs a vest half the length of the male Snipers.
Why not just make the vest same length, hug her curves.[/QUOTE]
Because I do not think vests work that way or it would be a corset...
[QUOTE=StormBlink;44749401]Because I do not think vests work that way or it would be a corset...[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.google.com/search?q=vests+for+women&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=a8NqU7fNONGQyQGH0oDQAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=890[/url]
I'd assume they can.
Severe lack of cleavage.
[QUOTE=Py-Bun;44736701][img_thumb]http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/125/1/0/alternate_fem_sniper_clothes_entry___2_by_py_bun-d7hbi30.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
If the vest was longer and was open a little more like this: [URL="http://cornersmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Vests.jpg"]http://cornersmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Vests.jpg[/URL]
With slightly higher rolled up sleeves and shorter socks, I'd be pretty content with that as the base design.
Also I can't get over how weird those shorts are.. They end above the knees but FemSnipe's legs are so long, that if you did shorten the socks a little there'd be a huge, spaceless skin gap.
Hmm..
Maybe either make them longer and have pockets like cargo shorts to distract people from that, or make them her regular pants rolled up I guess.
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