Survey of TF2's current state (Yes, Valve will see it.) - Games

[quote]What is the lowest FPS you currently get in TF2?*[/quote] I think you meant highest? [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=The Pretender;27168141]When the vintage system started, vintage hats were considered limited (and that they technically were). It soon became clear that vintage and non-vintage hats/items would not be universally inter-tradable. Few people remain that still do not care for vintage. I used to not care for vintage at all, until I realized you will never get what you want unless your hats are vintage. Now I have no non-vintage hats at all, and I won't trade for non-vintages ever. It's like a virus consuming everyone. There is almost no reason to craft hats anymore, unless you plan on enjoying it yourself. I wasted many hats to "upgrade" my hats to vintage.[/QUOTE] Honestly I don't give a [i][b]damn[/b][/i] about vintage hats at all. Most of my hats that I had aren't even vintage anymore.

alright, i did this. also, in the question where it asks about your opinion on the amount of items, one of the questions says "too much" instead of "too many" just fyi

[QUOTE=TacoMuffin;27168673]alright, i did this. also, in the question where it asks about your opinion on the amount of items, one of the questions says "too much" instead of "too many" just fyi[/QUOTE] You just wrote questions instead of answers in your post. Just FYI. :v:

Suddenly, free Checkmark hats for everyone who completed this survey!

[QUOTE=The Pretender;27168049][img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/srrery.PNG[/img_thumb] I had to, I'm sure everyone agrees.[/QUOTE] but it's fun to fuck around with traders that are super srs with values with the vintage system

[QUOTE=Shwig;27168152]Downgrade is something like Claidheaomor[/QUOTE] compared to the bottle of which it is a replacement; its got a fuckton long range if its used with the charging Targe: [img_thumb] http://filesmelt.com/dl/item_test0011.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb] http://filesmelt.com/dl/item_test0012.jpg[/img_thumb] thats a pretty huge difference [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] Its a demoman melee aka Bottle replacement not an eyelander replacement best used with a medic so the -15 health doesnt become a problem

[QUOTE=Nzdjh;27168040]It also needs a major buff. It's Demoman's only grenade launcher unlock and it's a straight downgrade.[/QUOTE] I think it's fine. It's about the same difference between the Direct Hit and rocket launcher, really, and I've been doing great with it as an offensive weapon.

[QUOTE=Shugo;27168798]I think it's fine. It's about the same difference between the Direct Hit and rocket launcher, really, and I've been doing great with it as an offensive weapon.[/QUOTE] This is actually very true. A direct hit with it makes a huge difference. But it'd still be better if it exploded on surfact contact, in my opinion.

But then it would just be a weaker version of the direct hit.

[QUOTE=Keychain;27168819]This is actually very true. A direct hit with it makes a huge difference. But it'd still be better if it exploded on surfact contact, in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Explodes on direct hits, or surface contact Direct hits deal 140% of the normal GL's nades Surface contact hits deal 40% of the normal GL's nades with an incredibly small explosion range, probably like 60% (50% more curve?) How's this

Valve should make LnL explode on surface contact with smaller splash radius than normal GL and buff the damage, just my opinion.

[QUOTE=JoeSibilant;27168870]But then it would just be a weaker version of the direct hit.[/QUOTE] It already is.

[QUOTE=Keychain;27168819]This is actually very true. A direct hit with it makes a huge difference. But it'd still be better if it exploded on surfact contact, in my opinion.[/QUOTE] that removes all aiming skill previously required

[QUOTE=xpod1;27169122]that removes all aiming skill previously required[/QUOTE] While we're at it, let's make a knife that can only swing if its a backstab. And a rocket launcher that moves at the same speed as the regular rocketlauncher, but only explodes on a direct hit. And a shotgun that only shoots if there's someone in the crosshair. That'll show those new players that only skilled players are allowed to use certain weapons! [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] My point being, it doesn't even remove the skill required, because in order for it to have its full effect, good aiming is still indeed required. What good is a weapon if all it does is support skill? Rather than using it because its an alternative?

[QUOTE=Keychain;27169132]While we're at it, let's make a knife that can only swing if its a backstab. And a rocket launcher that moves at the same speed as the regular rocketlauncher, but only explodes on a direct hit. And a shotgun that only shoots if there's someone in the crosshair. That'll show those new players that only skilled players are allowed to use certain weapons![/QUOTE] That shotgun's way too casual. It should only shoot if you properly lead your shot so that every single pellet successfully hits your enemy. And only when it's a critical hit. And sometimes the shots are duds.

Uh, only skilled players ARE allowed to use certain weapons (well). Ever played spy?

[QUOTE=JoeSibilant;27169149]Uh, only skilled players ARE allowed to use certain weapons (well). Ever played spy?[/QUOTE] Because all of the camping cloak and dagger Spies are [I]soooo[/I] skillful. It doesn't take a mass amount of skill to play Spy. But yes, a little more than most classes.

[QUOTE=Keychain;27169161]Because all of the camping cloak and dagger Spies are [I]soooo[/I] skillful. It doesn't take a mass amount of skill to play Spy. But yes, a little more than most classes.[/QUOTE] Spy is the only class in the game that gets double points for its kills because it sucks so bad [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] also the only class that is affected by metagame which makes it even more unreliable

Looks like a nice survey and I'd love to give my vote, but Malwarebytes won't let me on the site.

[QUOTE=Shugo;27168798]I think it's fine. It's about the same difference between the Direct Hit and rocket launcher, really, and I've been doing great with it as an offensive weapon.[/QUOTE] Vs bad, predictable players it's decent. Vs competent players it's utter trash. Not even close to being worth it, both the LnL and the DH.

Loch&Load is not a bad weapon. It feels very underpowered when you first try it but after using it a lot it feels only slightly underpowered. I'm not sure if the self-damage is a good downside. It makes melee essential and L&L a bad combination with Caber. [editline]editline[/editline] Sure you can't spam with it, but spamming is cheap anyway.

Done. I'd like to see the results!

[QUOTE=Talishmar;27169527]Loch&Load is not a bad weapon. It feels very underpowered when you first try it but after using it a lot it feels only slightly underpowered. I'm not sure if the self-damage is a good downside. It makes melee essential and L&L a bad combination with Caber.[/QUOTE] The Expert's Ordinance is the only pack that has an effective downside to using the items together, in that it reduces the effectiveness of the Caber. Other packs just throw crap together that only affect you, and not other weapons. [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] I approve of this survey.

[QUOTE=Recurracy;27168877]Explodes on direct hits, or surface contact Direct hits deal 140% of the normal GL's nades Surface contact hits deal 40% of the normal GL's nades with an incredibly small explosion range, probably like 60% (50% more curve?) How's this[/QUOTE] Basically the secondary fire of the Flak Cannon from Unreal Tournament. I love that gun. The Direct Hit is not underpowered and far from useless, it's one of the most equilibrated weapons in the game, fantastic at short range and against sentries. It's more difficult to deflect than the normal rocket launcher, but the lack of a decent splash damage makes it an alternative rather than an upgrade to the rocket launcher.

[QUOTE=Lomme;27169607] The Direct Hit is not underpowered and far from useless, it's one of the most equilibrated weapons in the game, fantastic at short range and against sentries. It's more difficult to deflect than the normal rocket launcher, but the lack of a decent splash damage makes it an alternative rather than an upgrade to the rocket launcher.[/QUOTE] That is why all the best Soldiers in the game use it. Oh wait... There's 3 things the DH is good at: - 1-shotting 125HP classes - Airshots - Killing bad players Out of the 125HP classes, the only one that should be in a direct fight is the Scout, and a good Scout will kill you before you've killed him with it most of the time. Airshots with the DH are piss-easy if you can get airshots with the regular launcher, far too easy for the effect it has. Versus good players the Rocket Launcher is infinitely better.

[QUOTE=The Pretender;27168049][img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/srrery.PNG[/img_thumb] I had to, I'm sure everyone agrees.[/QUOTE] I wrote in a custom answer, "Fuck vintage elitism."

How can we be sure valve sees this?

[QUOTE=Sgt Pepper;27169768]I wrote in a custom answer, "Fuck vintage elitism."[/QUOTE] I wrote that Vintage is not needed.

[quote]16. (OPTIONAL) Wanna say something to Valve before you go? "Ooooh!" Get those LODs done already god damn, and stop with the hats, we've got enough already, get some more weapons ingame, hell even if they are just reskins of default, it adds some nice appeal than to always seeing a targe demo with axe/eyelander. That also brings up another point, the Demoman primary role is to use explosives to destory stuff, please explain why he's suddenly turned into this iconic idiot of targetard with a vast range of melee weapons, he's not the demoman anymore, he's the fucking Meleeman, hell why not just remove his primary and secondary slot, have the targe equipable in the action slot and rename him to Meleeman, BECAUSE THATS ALL I SEE DEMOS DOING NOW WHEN I AM NOT IN A COMP MATCH AND ITS BLOODY ANNOYING.[/quote] Think that'll do nicely.

Damn Malwarebytes blocking the site. Anyway, completed.