Spotting a cheater - Games - Facepunch Forum

That's my point. If you had read the OP, you'll see that this guy does get worse when specced.

*Snip.* God, I don't want to be the cause of another of these arguments, just nevermind.

Everyone is different, record a source tv, wireframe it and watch it.. Don't give me crap when you nothing about the subject. I have to see everyday loads of demos of people who suposedly are cheating and i can tell you that 99% of people headshot based on Gamesense (Prediction). It's called Slideshot or Whipshot when you are pointing to a place and from nothing you just move the mouse to the other side of the screen and headshot. Loads of fantastic players can't headshot if the target is stopped or if they bodyshot.

Then how do you explain someone doing 350 degree turns out of fucking nowhere and getting an instant headshot?

Have you heard of using headphones and hearing people steps ? If you want we can go to any server as long as i have 20-30 ping and a good interpt and i will do 720 on you :) lol at the "Dumbs" :)

[QUOTE=vaskie;27073121]Have you heard of using headphones and hearing people steps ? If you want we can go to any server as long as i have 20-30 ping and a good interpt and i will do 720 on you :)[/QUOTE] a 720 apparently he's so good he can break how angles work huh anyway, like said before, demo him, r_drawothermodels 2, see what happens. also have you checked those links on the wiki article about hacking?

Then the question would be if the player that's suspected of cheating has any competitive experience. If he has he is more likely to be legit.

Lmfao, 180x4 :) Go to PLDX.org and watch some frag videos of Competitive. Am sorry that you don't know how good Competitive players are in general. I guess 14 weekly hours playing the same 4-5 maps doesn't help either does it :) Also if any doubt go to TF2TV.com and watch some casting games, specially Dignitas Vs Epsilon. Ond kaja, i wouldn't be anything on it, but it obviously does help. Am not trying to ridicule public players, but the gap between Public and Competitive is.. well, quite big. Not only the skill itself but the gamesense, experience, calls. It's quite easy to headshot anyone at all when your team gives you a call of where he is, how much health he has, what class he is playing, all of this in real time.

Vaskie, stop rating people dumb, because you are getting swarmed with boxes.

Am done really, the point is, watch the source tv and then judge someone. As for 180, 350, 720, whatever, it's quite possible, and quite easy for any competitive players that practices it. As for the "Dumb" ratings, laughable that facepunch users are like this. Explained and even tried to prove that it's quite easy but Pub players will be Pub players lol Wormy, having the crosshair behind a wall at all times means absolutely nothing, when you know that eventually someone will come out of it you either bodyshot or headshot. The thing that he has to look for is for a crosshair that moves exactly like the body on the other side of the wall and never trys to go for a bodyshot, always a bodyshot close to the right eye.

Oh get out already. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("You can rate people, report them or post your opinion of their posts, there's no need to tell anyone to get out" - verynicelady))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Wormy;27073387]This is what you are going to do: 1. Type r_drawothermodels 2 (in the console) 2. Spectate the guy and see if he might have his crosshair on a guy behind the wall sometimes. Example: he might look alot at a wall, cause he is following his crosshair at an enemy's head, or body. 3. If that happens, it's probably a hacker. If you are wondering what this command does, it makes all the models into blue wireframes, which almost gives you a wallhack feeling. You wont get VAC banned for doing this.[/QUOTE] Hey, I will keep that in mind, thank you. When I played yesterday, a friend of mine went Spy and left the spawn and all of the sudden, the guy I was spectating used the "Spy" voicecommand. It's not like he's spamming it. Looked alot like he felt that a Spy was coming.

[QUOTE=DatWut?;27073565]Hey, I will keep that in mind, thank you. When I played yesterday, a friend of mine went Spy and left the spawn and all of the sudden, the guy I was spectating used the "Spy" voicecommand. It's not like he's spamming it. Looked alot like he felt that a Spy was coming.[/QUOTE] you can still hear them moving about. that's how I usually catch spies.

No, pointing at a wall for a long time waiting for someone to come out of it isn't. Moving the crosshair just like the body even though you are pointing to a wall ? Yeah of course. The Crosshair hacks that exist have all been caught by ESL (eSports League) and all of them use the same mechanic, to point to the right eye of a character. Also am just going to leave this here. Haunter from TCM (great friend of mine) - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHmaldAYOKs[/url] Cookye from Power Gaming - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcB85aX1pqY&feature=related[/url] (Anyone that isn't on Competitive will say that he cheats) Fragga from FakkelBrigade - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6CjYpoOqDE&feature=related[/url] Haunter from TCM - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KswkefY4mZc[/url]

[QUOTE=vaskie;27073598]No, pointing at a wall for a long time waiting for someone to come out of it isn't. Moving the crosshair just like the body even though you are pointing to a wall ? Yeah of course. The Crosshair hacks that exist have all been caught by ESL (eSports League) and all of them use the same mechanic, to point to the right eye of a character. Also am just going to leave this here. Haunter from TCM (great friend of mine) - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHmaldAYOKs[/url] Cookye from Power Gaming - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcB85aX1pqY&feature=related[/url] (Anyone that isn't on Competitive will say that he cheats) Fragga from FakkelBrigade - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6CjYpoOqDE&feature=related[/url] Haunter from TCM - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KswkefY4mZc[/url][/QUOTE] Get out of here already, no one cares how fucking leet you are. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Post a reasoned reply, or report the post if you think it's a bad one. Don't tell people to get out" - verynicelady))[/highlight]

lol rage much :D [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why reply" - verynicelady))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=vaskie;27072371]Oh come on.. Have you ever heard of something called "Skill" ? It's quite easy to snipe on pub servers, specially for competitive players like me-[/QUOTE] And this is where I would have to stop you from getting higher on your horse, sir.

[QUOTE=vaskie;27073677]lol rage much :D[/QUOTE] The amount of dumbs tells me that I'm right.

[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;27073595]you can still hear them moving about. that's how I usually catch spies.[/QUOTE] Have you ever played cp_gorge? The guy I was spectating stood at RED's Spawn while my friend just left BLU's forwarded spawn. Nothing about hearing Spies.

Did he cloak ? If he did he could have heard the sound of it

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;27073837]The amount of dumbs tells me that I'm right.[/QUOTE] While the way he says it could be improved, he's essentially right. A lot of people banned on pubs for hacking are not hacking but simply experienced, skill players. I've seen my 'home' clan for instance ban Lopert, who is one of the best NA competitive TF2 players you can find. [QUOTE=DatWut?;27073942]Have you ever played cp_gorge? The guy I was spectating stood at RED's Spawn while my friend just left BLU's forwarded spawn. Nothing about hearing Spies.[/QUOTE] Most likely just a random call, I know several people do that all the time just to freak people out.

[QUOTE=vaskie;27073395] As for the "Dumb" ratings, laughable that facepunch users are like this. Explained and even tried to prove that it's quite easy but Pub players will be Pub players lol[/QUOTE] stop posting

[QUOTE=vaskie;27074001]Did he cloak ? If he did he could have heard the sound of it[/QUOTE] :doh: You're so plain stupid, you have to get shot. Read this: [QUOTE=DatWut?;27073942]Have you ever played cp_gorge? The guy I was spectating stood at RED's Spawn while my friend just left BLU's forwarded spawn. Nothing about hearing Spies.[/QUOTE] If you don't understand, I'll try to make it understandable for you: Sniper: RED spawn Spy: BLU spawn Sniper couldn't have heard the Spy. If you still don't get it: :frog:

[QUOTE=vaskie;27073677]lol rage much :D[/QUOTE] Vaskie, you might be a good player, and you're right that competitive gamers are generally much better than pub players. But you're fucking immature right now and this behaviour that some competitive players possess is why Facepunch hates them. Stop being an elitist asshole, seriously.

Will you all stop arguing?

even if i do play comp tf2, i know for a fact that cookye does hack, or at least people have already proven it's set up.

cookye clearly used to hack, he performed ok on lan but definitely did not display the insane tracking ability he has online just ban the guy from your server and be done with it, worst case you ban some random innocent dude and he has to play on one of thousands of other servers (happens to me every few days), best case, you ban a cheater and don't go off STV demos, they make everything look suspicious [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkL0vsSWSqo[/media]

[QUOTE=DatWut?;27074255]:doh: You're so plain stupid, you have to get shot. Read this: If you don't understand, I'll try to make it understandable for you: Sniper: RED spawn Spy: BLU spawn Sniper couldn't have heard the Spy. If you still don't get it: :frog:[/QUOTE] That was probably random. The whole map isn't rendered at once, but instead split up in different parts called visleafs. The visleafs that you can see are rendered, but the ones you can't are not. Wallhacks let you see players obscured by map geometry (i.e. walls, objects) in other visleafs that are rendered, but it does not let you see players in visleafs that aren't rendered. In other words, if he was wallhacking he still wouldn't be able to see a spy in another part of the map, unless that part was rendered by the engine at that moment.

[QUOTE=Shounic;27074485]even if i do play comp tf2, i know for a fact that cookye does hack, or at least people have already proven it's set up.[/QUOTE] Cookye surely is cheating.

[QUOTE=vaskie;27073248]snip[/QUOTE] I don't have to be good at tf2 to know that it's more sensible to turn three hundred and sixty degrees once rather than twice unless of course you're trying to waste time or look cooler but looking cool doesn't make you good at a game also I don't play on the same four or five maps. I like variety.