TF2 Emporium 58: We put the PRO in procrastinate

[Pfysicyst]

[QUOTE=Josher;43911185][thumb]http://i.imgur.com/IMfPMlV.png[/thumb]

Feedback is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Bring it all in a bit closer to the head, looks like it'll slide off at the moment. You may also want to angle the top forward a bit more since most of the time I wear similar headphones, they never sit completely vertical.

[Old Hermit]

[QUOTE=Riley75;43911502]Is there a possible way to make the Killstreak sheen effect on weapons being visible all the time?[/QUOTE]
I think you could just mess around with the .vmt settings for it until it looks right

Though it'd be a pain in the arse because you'd have to do it for each weapon you want it applied to, and even more if they have team colored variants or summat like that

[sevin]

I was told you guys could help me out, so here goes:

I'm finally making my first model, and it's a Japanese style bridge. It's very basic right now, but still over 7000 tris. Is that number acceptable for use as a static prop?

My real question, however, is unwrapping the actual model. I'd like to get to texturing it, but I have no idea how to cut the thing up. Do I have to group everything together first and mark tons of seams? How do I keep track of what exactly is what when I unwrap? It all looks super jumbled and I don't know how anyone knows what anything is.

[URL="http://i.imgur.com/ek4BsvW.png"]Here's a render[/URL] of my model w/ AO if anyone has any ideas. I do get the general idea of unwrapping and texturing, but for a model like this I have no idea how to do it.

[AyesDyef]

[QUOTE=Sevin;43914346]I was told you guys could help me out, so here goes:

I'm finally making my first model, and it's a Japanese style bridge. It's very basic right now, but still over 7000 tris. Is that number acceptable for use as a static prop?

My real question, however, is unwrapping the actual model. I'd like to get to texturing it, but I have no idea how to cut the thing up. Do I have to group everything together first and mark tons of seams? How do I keep track of what exactly is what when I unwrap? It all looks super jumbled and I don't know how anyone knows what anything is.

[URL="http://i.imgur.com/ek4BsvW.png"]Here's a render[/URL] of my model w/ AO if anyone has any ideas. I do get the general idea of unwrapping and texturing, but for a model like this I have no idea how to do it.[/QUOTE]

Generally your model will be the one mesh with separate elements within, they can still be unwrapped if not, but that can be a pain a most times.

7000 tri's is a lot, you don't need that much detail on the cylinder-like shapes on the end, especially since they still retain their shape from all angles, you'd only use that many tri's for shading.

There's a billion ways to unwrap things, some people like to mark edges, and people like me like to break it into a billion pieces depending on the flatness of the surface and stitched it back together.
And there's lots of different ways of tracking what you've wrapped and not, such as putting the unwrapped pieces aside, or hiding the tris that you've already unwrapped, slapping a checker texture on it and unwrapping all the bits that look stretched beyond fuck, or just plain remembering, your item isn't that complicated, the tri's you select DO show up on your model so you know what you've got selected.

[Ryu-Gi]

After the Scissor Blade mod I decided to get back on that spycrab misc. item I was working on ages ago.

[IMG]http://s27.postimg.org/pfbr80a2r/spycrabtexturing.jpg[/IMG]

I'm texturing it now.

[Punchy]

[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;43914652]After the Scissor Blade mod I decided to get back on that spycrab misc. item I was working on ages ago.

[IMG]http://s27.postimg.org/pfbr80a2r/spycrabtexturing.jpg[/IMG]

I'm texturing it now.[/QUOTE]

look at those horrifying mangled legs

[Ryu-Gi]

[QUOTE=Punchy;43914690]look at those horrifying mangled legs[/QUOTE]

They're supposed to resemble actual crab legs.

[ZombiPlasticClok]

[QUOTE=Punchy;43914690]look at those horrifying mangled legs[/QUOTE]

It'll fit right in with the others

[t]http://i.imgur.com/odJPLDb.png[/t]

[sevin]

[QUOTE=AyesDyef;43914508]Generally your model will be the one mesh with separate elements within, they can still be unwrapped if not, but that can be a pain a most times.

7000 tri's is a lot, you don't need that much detail on the cylinder-like shapes on the end, especially since they still retain their shape from all angles, you'd only use that many tri's for shading.

There's a billion ways to unwrap things, some people like to mark edges, and people like me like to break it into a billion pieces depending on the flatness of the surface and stitched it back together.
And there's lots of different ways of tracking what you've wrapped and not, such as putting the unwrapped pieces aside, or hiding the tris that you've already unwrapped, slapping a checker texture on it and unwrapping all the bits that look stretched beyond fuck, or just plain remembering, your item isn't that complicated, the tri's you select DO show up on your model so you know what you've got selected.[/QUOTE]

OK, so how would I reduce the detail on those cylinders? I'm using Blender.

[LightFlock]

[QUOTE=Sevin;43915176]OK, so how would I reduce the detail on those cylinders? I'm using Blender.[/QUOTE]

Merge vertices together in edit mode, there an even number on all(?) shapes so if you crush every two vertices into one it'll half your tri count (on the cylinders alone obviously), you can do it again if it's not enough too.

[Misterlegodude]

[QUOTE=ZombiPlastiClok;43914772]It'll fit right in with the others

[t]http://i.imgur.com/odJPLDb.png[/t][/QUOTE][t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/792934719385508331/E443B96D77AD27B9E3A88D49A73B6CC427DEFAAA/[/t]

Valve has a broken leg fetish

[Scotty_]

[QUOTE=Masterlegodude;43915259][t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/792934719385508331/E443B96D77AD27B9E3A88D49A73B6CC427DEFAAA/[/t]

Valve has a broken leg fetish[/QUOTE]

Heavy is just doing the Mambo, don't hate.

[SgtR007]

[QUOTE=LightFlock;43915228]Merge vertices together in edit mode, there an even number on all(?) shapes so if you crush every two vertices into one it'll half your tri count (on the cylinders alone obviously), you can do it again if it's not enough too.[/QUOTE]
Don't merge verts, it messes up the UV and can also screw up things during compilation if the verts aren't lined up properly. Use the Dissolve function to get rid of edge loops/verts (delete button).

[A_Guardian]

[QUOTE=Masterlegodude;43915259][t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/792934719385508331/E443B96D77AD27B9E3A88D49A73B6CC427DEFAAA/[/t]

Valve has a broken leg fetish[/QUOTE]
Do you have the crotch thrust taunt mod?

[Misterlegodude]

[QUOTE=A_Guardian;43915700]Do you have the crotch thrust taunt mod?[/QUOTE]That's not my picture, but i assume that mod is a (if not [i]the[/i]) reason for that happening?

[gigazelle]

[QUOTE=SgtR007;43915424]Don't merge verts, it messes up the UV and can also screw up things during compilation if the verts aren't lined up properly. Use the Dissolve function to get rid of edge loops/verts (delete button).[/QUOTE]

Well if he hasn't unwrapped it yet, the UV doesn't matter. There's not a problem with merging vertices if there's no UV to worry about.

[Dark One]

[QUOTE=dak1ne;43912036]its popularity?[/QUOTE]

cant be it people ask for up vote's

[Old Hermit]

Oh boy oh boy pookums
You're quite behind with that OP, ain't ya?
[url=http://www.mediafire.com/download/48hpweo4y93yedg/improved_freedom_staff.7z][img]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6df9/5dxb8ijv9hxfcrhfg.jpg[/img][/url]
[URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11945129/Dinkum_Driveby.zip"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3VISHy6.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://www.mediafire.com/?5pikxdtk6h4ly41"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/aGrMdyd.png[/IMG][/URL]
[url=http://tf2.jennybur.net/mods/Hats/CuteSuit/][img]http://tf2.jennybur.net/mods/Hats/CuteSuit/minipromo.png[/img][/url][url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=218184461][img]http://i.imgur.com/d72oMlw.png[/img][/url]
[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/1mp3q9jukxpno3s/Conflagrationcowl.zip"][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24102295/Releases/Empmod_conflagrationcowl.png[/img][/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=218739914"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/d72oMlw.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/download/et9ofbtco3q6urt/Engineer%20fix%20pack%20v1.3.zip"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ese1qJs.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://www.mediafire.com/?y564gavk92vz3y8"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7smPbxU.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/download/p362a762ems97c5/Funniest+Painticon+Ever.zip"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Zs7L03J.png[/IMG][/URL]
[url=http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/218098648/558746088866182454/][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52618319/engi_faceshield_modpromo1.png[/img][/url][url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=218098648][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52618319/Workshop%20Promo%20Extention.png[/img][/url]
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/download/u9v2cdl157vrni2/Pyrowerfer.zip"][IMG]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/e0a9/qum1s46carob1pr6g.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://tf2.gamebanana.com/skins/131569"][IMG]http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/zombieplasticclock/fjflarefacepunch_zps1c325cde.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.tf2mods.net/mod.php?id=807"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/SiqEXeu.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=219804508"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/uNhe7Ye.png[/IMG][/URL]

[URL="http://www.tf2mods.net/mod.php?id=806"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wp08bY5.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=219804508"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/uNhe7Ye.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.gamefront.com/files/24005855/Scout+Leather+Jacket+Mods.rar"][IMG]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3806/12113088753_abae20e5d6_o.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=220104882"][IMG]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5529/12112787755_e274675164_o.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/download/c6tua9rd8fqstyf/TF2TIP%20Festive%20GRU.zip"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zeeGshE.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/download/1rgx13hkpgx9ykj/Clicky%20Dead%20Ringer.zip"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/SA22KY0.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/2014/arnie/packed_arniehair.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/2014/arnie/arniehair.png[/IMG][/URL][URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=220038989"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/Workshop%20Promo%20Extention.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/2014/arnie/packed_arnievest.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/2014/arnie/arnievest.png[/IMG][/URL][URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=220040093"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/Workshop%20Promo%20Extention.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/2014/arnie/packed_arniepants.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/2014/arnie/arniepants.png[/IMG][/URL][URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=220039465"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9411074/RELEASES/Workshop%20Promo%20Extention.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/download/xux4xi546ujrtb6/chainofcommandshotgun.rar"][img]http://i.imgur.com/FtH03mh.png[/img][/URL]
[url=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31115055/TF2/Sticky_launchers.rar][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31115055/TF2/sticky_launcher_promo.png[/img][/url]
[URL="https://www.mediafire.com/?4zo3hm6hk9d475n"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/EtkOSTl.png[/IMG][/URL]
[url=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31115055/TF2/tip_hp_pyro.rar][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31115055/TF2/tip_hp_pyro.png[/img][/url]
[URL=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/65113316/content/tf_cat_horsemann.zip][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/65113316/screenies/emporium_mods/tool_hhhcatrig.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24102295/Releases/Evil_stache.zip"][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24102295/Releases/empmodpromo_evil_stache.png[/img][/URL]
[URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/102054761/Vaccinator%20Mega%20Pack%20VPK.rar"][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/102054761/Vaccinator%20Promo%202.png[/img][/URL]
[url=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/107103062/TF2/mods/dp_hairlessscout.zip][img]http://puu.sh/6FNha.png[/img][/url]
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/download/hmdkf9bbtn74bp2/The%20Toowoomba%20Tunic.zip"][img]http://i.imgur.com/z9R4tjv.png[/img][/URL]
[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/sld0tsngl84by79/tyrantium_helmet.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79226246/tryrantium%20helmet%20fix.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/zljjk00bkl9bwx9/soldier_viking_pauldron.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79226246/pluderers%20pauldron.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/8j66ul8tnnsra7w/scout_dungarees.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79226246/downed%20dungarees.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1mk433fsdve8t0/demo_samurai_armour.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79226246/demo%20samurai%20armour.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/t7jm5se2fupwenb/demo_samurai_sleeves.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79226246/demo%20samurai%20sleeves.png[/IMG][/URL]
And I still got like 20 pages to go, too :v:

[NeoDement]

7 of those items got added to the game already :p

[Old Hermit]

[QUOTE=NeoDement;43917066]7 of those items got added to the game already :p[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I figured I'd keep 'em on for shits n giggles

[TheHeartsman]

Everything is awesome!

[IMG]http://puu.sh/6WAC5/4306c394fc.jpg[/IMG]

[dak1ne]

[QUOTE=Dark One;43916698]cant be it people ask for up vote's[/QUOTE]

I said it wrong way, i mean if people want an item, like in all markets :
the system of supply and demand. I Thought was more about that.

[Old Hermit]

Yeesh.
Here's the rest of them.
[url=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20949289/TF2%20Mod%20Files/EngineerHubCap.zip][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20949289/TF2%20Mod%20Files/engineer_mechanic_Modpromo.png[/img][/url][url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=223474365&searchtext=][img]http://i.imgur.com/d72oMlw.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://puu.sh/6HKjA.rar][img]http://puu.sh/6J2ku.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://puu.sh/6HK8W.rar][img]http://puu.sh/6J2kA.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://puu.sh/6HKpJ.rar][img]http://puu.sh/6J2kM.png[/img][/url]
[URL="http://tf2.gamebanana.com/skins/131938"][IMG]http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/zombieplasticclock/shot_zpsc34a28aa.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://bonkboy.com/downloads/tf2/models/engineer/Tools_Of_Trade.zip"][IMG]http://bonkboy.com/downloads/tf2/models/engineer/Tools_Of_Trade_ModPromo.png[/IMG][/URL]

[URL="http://bonkboy.com/downloads/tf2/models/engineer/Brute_Force_Fix.zip"][IMG]http://bonkboy.com/downloads/tf2/models/engineer/Brute_Force_Fix_ModPromo.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/ir0dzseqskrdtp4/killerskit_fix.vpk"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/E4SoV0Y.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://tf2.gamebanana.com/skins/131978"][img]http://i.imgur.com/voGA1tn.png[/img][/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=225504476"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/d72oMlw.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/j35jlrk3jiv4ezp/pyro_warhammer.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79226246/whack%20a%20maul.png[/IMG][/URL]
[url=http://tf2.jennybur.net/mods/Hats/PropaneAccessories/][img]http://tf2.jennybur.net/mods/Hats/PropaneAccessories/minipromo.png[/img][/url][url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=225429727][img]http://i.imgur.com/d72oMlw.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://tf2.jennybur.net/mods/Hats/BBQBelt/][img]http://tf2.jennybur.net/mods/Hats/BBQBelt/minipromo.png[/img][/url][url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=225429091][img]http://i.imgur.com/d72oMlw.png[/img][/url]
[URL="http://tf2.gamebanana.com/skins/132042"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Eo4CkNZ.png[/IMG][/URL]
[url=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57186256/Model%20Releases/oddworld_slig_head.zip][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57186256/Model%20Releases/slig_head_promo.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://tf2mods.net/mod.php?id=821][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6526556/modpromo_asscan.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://tf2mods.net/mod.php?id=822][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6526556/modpromo_techgun.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://tf2mods.net/mod.php?id=823][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6526556/modpromo_ninjastar.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://www.mediafire.com/download/qtog1lym1q8vjy7/Stylish_Spy_Revamp_Feb_11_2014.zip][img]http://i.imgur.com/K04ZeM8.png[/img][/url]
[url=http://www.mediafire.com/download/kvxhb18g8q988nx/Maskless_Stylish_Spy_Revamp_Feb_11_2014.zip][img]http://i.imgur.com/LuRVDOe.png[/img][/url]
[URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3430278/Modding/DiscoBall.zip"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3430278/Modding/DiscoBall_promo.png[/IMG][/URL][URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=226857788"][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3430278/Modding/Workshop%20Promo%20Extention.png[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.mediafire.com/download/p9php3qaebc9x14/Maresleg.vpk"][IMG]http://puu.sh/6RY3J.png[/IMG][/URL]
[url=http://www.mediafire.com/download/n46xmcimbsvt8t8/TF2SFMUpdate.rar][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/sfmbanner.png[/img][/url]
Lemme know if I missed any.

[Inspecter]

[QUOTE=TheHeartsman;43917212]Everything is awesome!

[IMG]http://puu.sh/6WAC5/4306c394fc.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

How would it look like with Fleshtone? You know I was thinking up of lego oriented items, not sure if you want them though.

[TheHeartsman]

[QUOTE=Inspecter;43917294]How would it look like with Fleshtone? You know I was thinking up of lego oriented items, not sure if you want them though.[/QUOTE]

I just want to make head replacements for fun. also sticking with traditional yellow!

EDIT: Ugh, althoooough

[IMG]http://puu.sh/6WCgh/28323aa136.jpg[/IMG]

yeah, I think I prefer it. Also are the Marvel Lego is flesh-tone.

[DrDonut]

[QUOTE=TheHeartsman;43917313]I just want to make head replacements for fun. also sticking with traditional yellow![/QUOTE]
Lego claw-hands would be neat! But they'd probably not look good/clip with most animations.

[Inspecter]

[QUOTE=Dr. Doughnut;43917339]Lego claw-hands would be neat! But they'd probably not look good/clip with most animations.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking of a lego revolver replacement for the Spy's revolver.

[TheHeartsman]

[QUOTE=Dr. Doughnut;43917339]Lego claw-hands would be neat! But they'd probably not look good/clip with most animations.[/QUOTE]

I really want to do the hands, but they just aren't possible without removing the originals.

[VernoGuy]

[QUOTE=TheHeartsman;43917313]I just want to make head replacements for fun. also sticking with traditional yellow!

EDIT: Ugh, althoooough

[IMG]http://puu.sh/6WCgh/28323aa136.jpg[/IMG]

yeah, I think I prefer it. Also are the Marvel Lego is flesh-tone.[/QUOTE]

All licensed Lego sets (except for a few early ones) use flesh tones. So, it makes sense.

[Kibbleknight]

why not just go all out and make playermodels? if its for shits and giggles.