TF2 Emporium 58: We put the PRO in procrastinate - Games

[QUOTE=Pagliacci;44406287][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bAQKqnm.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] It better have a custom draw animation. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hasipuR7-as[/media]

why does everything i make always have such a low poly count? its 880 polys [t]http://i.imgur.com/XvfEAHY.png[/t] all i need to do is chamfer a few edges and i'm done, but i did a test bake just for the sake of testing.

[QUOTE=Dark One;44407283]why does everything i make always have such a low poly count? its 880 polys[/QUOTE] Are you counting polygons, or triangles?

[QUOTE=NuggetWarmer;44407384]Are you counting polygons, or triangles?[/QUOTE] polygons.

You need to be counting triangles. What program are you using?

[QUOTE=NuggetWarmer;44407427]You need to be counting triangles. What program are you using?[/QUOTE] 3D Max.

Okay that's an easy one. Under the Utilities [IMG]http://puu.sh/7QqHO/35fb6ce236.png[/IMG] tab and click "More..." Find the Polygon Counter utility (which you can find quickly by tapping P twice). You can tell it to count triangles or count polygons of the selected object or group of objects.

1674 tris

You could probably lower it but it should be fine.

[QUOTE=NuggetWarmer;44407538]You could probably lower it but it should be fine.[/QUOTE] i've already optimized most of the object the only really parts that take a chunk of that are the cylinders and sphere.

[t]http://ctrlv.photos/img/14/03/31/533907f73e9f7.png[/t] I don't have many things to do, but I got this going for me, which is nice.

[QUOTE=ikes;44407841][t]http://ctrlv.photos/img/14/03/31/533907f73e9f7.png[/t] I don't have many things to do, but I got this going for me, which is nice.[/QUOTE] awesome, will that be a set item or solo?

[QUOTE=Dark One;44407921]awesome, will that be a set item or solo?[/QUOTE] I plan on making a set, eventually.

[QUOTE=Colteh;44406211][t]http://puu.sh/7QgR8.png[/t] the coat is still in very wip stages, but its getting there[/QUOTE] How hard does that thing spazz out with the laugh taunt?

[QUOTE=ikes;44407929]I plan on making a set, eventually.[/QUOTE] so a balloon wrench? [IMG]https://www.balloonhq.com/highlights/dog/basicdog.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Dark One;44408007]so a balloon wrench? [IMG]https://www.balloonhq.com/highlights/dog/basicdog.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I was thinking smoething along the lines of a wrench fashioned in the shape of a cane, with a ribbon tied around the handle but a balloon wrench might be fun.

another odd bug from blender > max story, all faces aren't really connected anymore. [t]http://i.imgur.com/8XcgWXQ.png[/t] i am kinda fearing what will happen if i bake.

[t]http://ctrlv.photos/img/14/03/31/533922844eb89.png[/t] Progress

You guys like technical/informative wip images related to the modelling process and unwraps right? [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1737448/sentry/41.png[/t][t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1737448/sentry/42.jpg[/t] Blueprint sentry model with it's texture seams, and here's the unwrap. I could probably rotate some of those squares in the middle near the cross, but it's not particularly vital.

[QUOTE=Dark One;44408007]so a balloon wrench? [IMG]https://www.balloonhq.com/highlights/dog/basicdog.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] What the hell is with you and your infeasible wrenchery

[IMG]http://ctrlv.photos/img/14/03/31/53393f78b0e7e.png[/IMG] Thoughts? That splotch on the tie is supposed to be a grease stain It's 3 AM, I'm gonna hit the sack. not uploading yet though. Lets just hope if it gets in, valve doesnt ask me to separate the moustache. (teutonic toque reference get it :^) )

[QUOTE=ikes;44408726][IMG]http://ctrlv.photos/img/14/03/31/53393f78b0e7e.png[/IMG] Thoughts? That splotch on the tie is supposed to be a grease stain It's 3 AM, I'm gonna hit the sack. not uploading yet though. Lets just hope if it gets in, valve doesnt ask me to separate the moustache. (teutonic toque reference get it :^) )[/QUOTE] To be honest, I think the grease stain is not necessary, plus it looks like the Sniper pissed on Engineer's tie while he was sleeping.

I'd make the yellow part team cream color.

[QUOTE=ikes;44408726][IMG]http://ctrlv.photos/img/14/03/31/53393f78b0e7e.png[/IMG] Thoughts? That splotch on the tie is supposed to be a grease stain It's 3 AM, I'm gonna hit the sack. not uploading yet though. Lets just hope if it gets in, valve doesnt ask me to separate the moustache. (teutonic toque reference get it :^) )[/QUOTE] As said before, that stain seems so out of place and inconsistent with the item.

So, I'm on the final stages of my model, but i've hit a dead end trying to view the model on hlmv, the lods, number of tris and vmts are all loaded, but the actual model doesn't show up, not even in wireframe and center view, any ideas? [URL="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vxc7vpjdzyt2684/wupQVJqMpC"]here are the files[/URL]

Friend and I intend to do this at some point: Medic High-powered Needlegun/Shotgun [img]http://puu.sh/7R6jc.jpg[/img] [img]http://puu.sh/7R67V[/img]

[QUOTE=ikes;44408311][t]http://ctrlv.photos/img/14/03/31/533922844eb89.png[/t] Progress[/QUOTE] You have a lot of unused uv space. Try moving things around and scaling some things up to minimize unused space.

[QUOTE=Cosa8888;44412339]So, I'm on the final stages of my model, but i've hit a dead end trying to view the model on hlmv, the lods, number of tris and vmts are all loaded, but the actual model doesn't show up, not even in wireframe and center view, any ideas? [URL="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vxc7vpjdzyt2684/wupQVJqMpC"]here are the files[/URL][/QUOTE] Try viewing the wireframe in HLMV. If it shows up you've got a material problem. What's your VMT look like? I used VTFedit's auto VMT generator and it didn't have it default to "VertexLitGeneric". I switched it to that in the VMT and that fixed it.

[QUOTE=Cosa8888;44412339]So, I'm on the final stages of my model, but i've hit a dead end trying to view the model on hlmv, the lods, number of tris and vmts are all loaded, but the actual model doesn't show up, not even in wireframe and center view, any ideas? [URL="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vxc7vpjdzyt2684/wupQVJqMpC"]here are the files[/URL][/QUOTE] Not sure what your issue is, I just did a quick compile and it [url=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24970273/TF2/ShermanTank.png]showed up for me[/url]. I did get this in the compile log, though: [code] SMD MODEL Sherman_Tank.smd SMD MODEL lod1_Sherman_Tank.smd SMD MODEL lod2_Sherman_Tank.smd SMD MODEL lod3_Sherman_Tank.smd Processing $shadowlod SMD MODEL Sherman_Tank_collision.smd Lod 1: vertexes: 8440 (683 new) Lod 2: vertexes: 8935 (495 new) Lod 3: vertexes: 9232 (297 new) WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! 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WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: COSTLY COLLISION MODEL!!!! (99 parts - 40 allowed) WARNING: Error with convex elements of Sherman_Tank_collision.smd, building single convex!!!! Model has 5 convex sub-parts Collision model completed. Computed Mass: 445.26 kg[/code]

[QUOTE=Omolong;44412602]Not sure what your issue is, I just did a quick compile and it [url=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24970273/TF2/ShermanTank.png]showed up for me[/url]. I did get this in the compile log, though: [code] SMD MODEL Sherman_Tank.smd SMD MODEL lod1_Sherman_Tank.smd SMD MODEL lod2_Sherman_Tank.smd SMD MODEL lod3_Sherman_Tank.smd Processing $shadowlod SMD MODEL Sherman_Tank_collision.smd Lod 1: vertexes: 8440 (683 new) Lod 2: vertexes: 8935 (495 new) Lod 3: vertexes: 9232 (297 new) WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: Model has 2-dimensional geometry (less than 0.500 inches thick on any axis)!!! WARNING: COSTLY COLLISION MODEL!!!! (99 parts - 40 allowed) WARNING: Error with convex elements of Sherman_Tank_collision.smd, building single convex!!!! Model has 5 convex sub-parts Collision model completed. Computed Mass: 445.26 kg[/code][/QUOTE] What? i thought bang fixed it, even when i compile it it shows no errors, are you using the same collision model from the source folder?