In all honesty with a name like Noob_Reaper he has to either be a clever troll or an idiot, as far as I'm concerned.
I've never met a person with either the word Noob used unironically or a name associated with death that has not been a total moron.
[QUOTE=Noob_Reaper;19183400]The point isn't JUST the charge, EVERYTHIGN about him is better now.
I also have a bone to pick with the soldier update, being direct hit 1hits any non-hardy class (pyro, soldier, heavy) and a crit 1hits anything, and the fucking equalizer has NO setback. It's a direct upgrade to the shovel.[/QUOTE]
Have you tried meleeing with it at full health? I counted twelve hits last time when I tried to ninja a sniper. Still won because he would not switch to melee him self. As for the direct hit. I could see why they would add a no crit to it. But I would still use it.
When your primary argument against nerfing a weapon is, "Try not dying to it, dumb shit," that's generally a sign that your stance is not exactly reasonable.
[QUOTE=Noob_Reaper;19183126]Actually, it does. Unless they're overhealed.
Not really, I always have an easy time killing heavies with unlockables as demo.
Yeah, but then you just pull out a secondary weapon. Are you dumb? I've already explained this.[/QUOTE]
no, you don't unless you're fighting in a 2x2 room, he can just spray the living fuck out of you with the minigun
if you charge him he can move away since your turning ability is very limited or just attempt to shoot you.
sorry, your argument makes no sense whatsoever. i'm decently skilled and heavies are a fucking nightmare if they can play.
How the fuck are you gold member? I thought gold members were smart people...
2 years and 2000 posts.
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And most you have to do to get Gold is to suck Hezzy off.
[QUOTE=Blargtastic;19187889]How the fuck are you gold member? I thought gold members were smart people...[/QUOTE]
It's the exact opposite, actually.
I've hit the motherload of BAWWWW Threads.
A simple stream of bullets can kill a Targe/Eyelander Demo.
Heavys destroy them, Scouts can still outrun them, and if you are in the open and get hit by their crit charge, either A: They got you in the ass, or B: You're stupid.
And as for the "OMG SUPAR MID-AIR DEMO JUMP", who cares if they blow themselves to kingdom come and fly away?
Noob Reaper was a funny lol.
[QUOTE=Boomersocks;19183064]The natascha and airblast pretty much renders a charging demoman useless.[/QUOTE]
The annoying part is if you're on hopen ground it puts them a fair distance from you.
then they pull out the nade launcher and you're fucked.
Valve just updated it!
Changelog:
*stop sucking and know how to play.
[QUOTE=Blargtastic;19187889]How the fuck are you gold member? I thought gold members were smart people...[/QUOTE]
:iiam:
BooHoo. You got killed by a demoman a few times. Guess what we all have to deal with this, my main class is scout and guess what? I am having no problem with demoman, yeah I get killed every now and again. But you need to learn to adapt to the situations, not come on facepunch and rant that you can never get kills now. If he is so good, why are you not using demoman?
[QUOTE=Eva-1337;19187966]I've hit the motherload of BAWWWW Threads.
A simple stream of bullets can kill a Targe/Eyelander Demo.
Heavys destroy them, Scouts can still outrun them, and if you are in the open and get hit by their crit charge, either A: They got you in the ass, or B: You're stupid.
And as for the "OMG SUPAR MID-AIR DEMO JUMP", who cares if they blow themselves to kingdom come and fly away?[/QUOTE]
This
I don't have any problems with the demoman and I use the spy, most of the time I can kill them with the revolver or at the least force them to retreat due to damage.
And when I play heavy or scout I absolutely destroy them.
Invincible? that's a complete joke.
[QUOTE=Takkun10;19188400]BooHoo. You got killed by a demoman a few times. Guess what we all have to deal with this, my main class is scout and guess what? I am having no problem with demoman, yeah I get killed every now and again. But you need to learn to adapt to the situations, not come on facepunch and rant that you can never get kills now. If he is so good, why are you not using demoman?[/QUOTE]
Adding to this, the FaN shoots the demoman's [i]invincible[/i] charge flying back. This also goes for the pyro air blast.
Noob Reaper, you are an idiot.
[QUOTE=Noob_Reaper;19182990]I'm not kidding. Let's assume you have all the unlocks and are using them, with 4 heads taken.
You can: Sticky jump midair, move faster than scout, have 210 health, take 70% less explosive/fire dmg, charge an enemy MUCH faster than a scout, onehit enemies with a melee weapon which has a range of all the way across fov.
Are you fucking kidding? REALLY? I mean, the demo now has the equivalant of 535 health when overhealed versus any fire/explosive weapon, and can onehit any class which damages him well, with his new superspeed and charge power. Fuck you, Valve.
Say you're fighting him as his two main enemies.
Pyro (no shotgun)
Roll up to him, set him on fire. Does 2-1 dmg per burn, almost none at application. Juggle into air, pull out axetinguisher- he's pulled out his new insta-detonate stickylauncher or grenade launcher, you're dead.
If you have a shotgun you have to get close range, burn him, juggle him, and hope you have time to shoot him 4-5 times before he 1hits you (you won't)
Heavy (his rival class, according to the community.)
He charges you through a hail of bullets, oneshot.. Stupid, right?
With everything else, either the charge, eyelander, speed, or instadet sticky launcher will kill you. There's zero chance against him- the best chance is scout, but you have to hope he doesn't have the scottish resistance or is good with the launcher. TBH, the demoman is, now, no longer a specialist. He does every job perfectly and can kill anyone without a hitch if he has any degree of skill.
Remove targe n charge explosive/fire dmg resistance, nerd speed buff on eyelander (Faster than scout? Cmon, Valve.)
Think I'm lying about this shit? Go try demoman for an hour, it's so easy it's unfun.[/QUOTE]
The amount of shit in your post is saddening
First paragraph:
if you can sticky jump, you can't have the shield, no damage absorbtion, you're an idiot, you can charge, once every (15?) seconds, the eyelander has a farther range, and a weaker BASE DAMAGE than other melee (damages of a bat, unless charging)
Second paragraph:
Shotgun, learn to aim better and to bitch less.
Pyro (no shotgun):
Axtinguisher if he has shield, airblast if he charges, airblast if he tries to use nades. The pyro has [b] no difficulties [/b] in countering a shield / eyelander demoman, if you can't, then you plain suck ass.
Pyro (with shotgun):
3 shotgun blast will kill a 175 hp demoman, 210 hp if you're lucky (if you do 80 damage 3 time), or just axetinguish him.
Heavy:
A full charge can not instant kill a heavy, stop saying bullshit and actually get info, a full melee critical does 195 damage, which, in the eyelander case, can only be done with a full charge, which then leave the demoman next to the heavy with only 45-65 damage sword swings, if as a heavy you can't take him down, again, you suck big time.
Scout:
I quote: "but you have to hope he doesn't have the scottish resistance or is good with the launcher."
If he has a scottish resistance, it takes him more time to explodes his stickies, unless he uses the glitch, which removes 80 health, which usually leaves him at 60 health, if you can't kill him, or are too retarded to get this close, well, you're a retard.
If he is good with the nade launcher, that totally means the eyelander is overpowered hu? Oh wait, the scout is the best anti "classic" demoman (nade launcher), learn to jump and dodge.
Go play demoman with charger / eyelander, look at how a airblast, rocket blast, scattershot, shotgun shot, axetinguisher, heavy, even engineers who know how to use their shotgun will destroy you unless you attack with a full charge from behind.
Finally, a demoman can [b] NOT [/b] be faster than a scout even with 4 heads, only [b] WHILE CHARGING [/b]
So yeah, stop spraying shit around atop of whining, it's not the weapon that is overpowered, it's you who suck big time.
I almost didnt post that first post, I didnt think the thread would get popular enough for it to be funny...
I have been killed by a Pyro...Does that mean he is now INVINCIBLE :smug:
It's Noob_Reaper, people. Star of threads such as
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=863721[/url]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=852585[/url]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=863801[/url]
The Eyelander is actually becoming completely useless. The stickylauncher/ScoRes is far superior, and without the shield, the bottle is far better then the sword due to the crits.
[QUOTE=Noob_Reaper;19182990]I'm not kidding. Let's assume you have all the unlocks and are using them, with 4 heads taken.
You can: Sticky jump midair, move faster than scout, have 210 health, take 70% less explosive/fire dmg, charge an enemy MUCH faster than a scout, onehit enemies with a melee weapon which has a range of all the way across fov.[/QUOTE]
Wait, how can you both sticky jump AND use the targe at the same time? I'm confused.
[QUOTE=Noob_Reaper;19182990]Heavy (his rival class, according to the community.)
He charges you through a hail of bullets, oneshot.. Stupid, right?[/quote]
I agree, your argument is pretty stupid, considering the eyelander can never oneshot a full-HP heavy.
good god this is near the quality of Taryl's threads
To have 210 health, the demoman would have had to melee 4 people to death prior to getting to you. You and your team should stop sucking.
You can't use the shield and the scottish resistance at the same time, you fail good sir please try again.
[QUOTE=Noob_Reaper;19184016]
And? The fact that you can move as fast as the fastest class AND do massive dmg should be proof enough of it being OP.[/QUOTE]
He's charging at you, faster than a scout.
Move.
To.
The.
Side.
Then shoot him with a shotgun. You're butthurt because it has fire and explosive resistance, but it never occurred to you to use the shotgun? I can down demos in 3 hits with the thing at close range - which is where he is because of his sword.
Also, your argument against the equaliser having nothing to balance it, making it an upgrade has been torn to shreds by graphs.
Oh wait, you're a pyro, playing intelligently didn't occur to you.
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