Female Spy model WIP

[redBadger]

2a
2b

[blubafoon]

gotta say I like the blue glasses on 4B, but I prefer the dark buttons

[ZomboJoe]

Looks great. Fits the TF2 theme perfectly.

[_Junkie_]

Um, is this still in development?

[CrazyBaconLegs]

Her last update was about 7 hours ago, what do you think?

[Keychain]

[QUOTE=_Junkie_;27361244]Um, is this still in development?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChemicalAlia;27351265]It would be great to get some feedback on these color variations, I'm ready to set the final color scheme and move on. I won't say which details I'm leaning towards because I want to hear your thoughts.

The main areas of concern are the buttons, cuffs/pockets, scarf/lenses, and the width of the stripes on the pantyhose. It doesn't have to be in this configuration, if you like the buttons of one, but the stripes on another, that's fine. Sorry about lack of striped coat, but I predicted too much stretching and don't want to redo the uvs (unless I get really ambitious this weekend). I don't think it goes with the style of coat she's wearing, anyway.

She is still lacking some wrinkles and other normal map-type stuff, but here she is with proper shader stuff, eyeballs, and finally some gradient opacity on the sunglasses.

[img_thumb]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/011/5/2/female_spy_color_test_2_by_chemicalalia-d36x5xu.jpg[/img_thumb]

Once I'm certain everything else is finalized, I will move on to the facial expressions, final testing and get this thing ready for release.

Interesting. I still haven't ruled out doing a Pyro at all, though there's a few classes I definitely want to get done before I would move ahead with that one. It seems like you're suggesting that the body type would effect the posture, which would then be realized through how the Pyro carries him/herself, it's a very good point, and very true. My only concern is how that would be achievable, since the pose/posture/animated movements are the most rigid and unchanged constraint we're working with. The female characters have to hold themselves in the same way and use the same poses, so the design has to make sense for both versions, and that lack of subtlety is my biggest problem with doing the Pyro. Definitely worth some thought, though.[/QUOTE]

[ChemicalAlia]

Why the hell is the camera beard white, did I miss something in TF2?

[img]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/011/6/3/camera_beard_by_chemicalalia-d36zq7f.jpg[/img]

Kids these days...

[NeoDement]

All hats are white unless you follow this tutorial:
[url]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Template:Painted_variants/Tutorial[/url]

[editline]12th January 2011[/editline]

Well, most hats. Unpaintable hats like your fez are the exception to the rule.

[Simski]

How does she look like with the Fedora :O?

Which brings me to the question, do you plan on replacing any of the hats with more fitting apparel?
I'm thinking the Masquerade mask could probably easily be replaced with a more feminine version, and the mullet really wouldn't look all that good on a girl.

[Keychain]

[QUOTE=Simski;27366309]and the mullet really wouldn't look all that good on a girl.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Helena_Massalska.jpg[/img]

:gonk:

[Quiet Maniac]

[QUOTE=ChemicalAlia;27366215]Why the hell is the camera beard white, did I miss something in TF2?

[img_thumb]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/011/6/3/camera_beard_by_chemicalalia-d36zq7f.jpg[/img_thumb]

Kids these days...[/QUOTE]

Hot damn, I can't wait to see what the Frenchman's Beret and (as Simski suggested, a more feminine version of) Le Party Phantom look like on her.

[thisguy123]

[QUOTE=Quiet Maniac;27367601]Hot damn, I can't wait to see what the Frenchman's Beret and (as Simski suggested, a more feminine version of) Le Party Phantom look like on her.[/QUOTE]

Would be funny to see it wedged behind the shades or taped to the front.

[Psychopath]

[QUOTE=thisguy123;27368273]Would be funny to see it wedged behind the shades or taped to the front.[/QUOTE]

Well considering that she has the Fez on but not the Fez's sunglasses, I'm sure that CA will anticipate that with the Party Phantom.

[Simski]

On the topic of the glasses, perhaps you should have the brim of the glasses colored similar to the sleeves in 1b for Blu, and a somewhat less saturated color of 1a for Red. I think it would resemble how Spy's balaclava masks his face a little better.

Then again it might also look horrible, and it wouldn't fit the Fez as good I'd reckon.
I just wanted to get the though out there, just in case it would be a good idea.

[ChemicalAlia]

[QUOTE=Simski;27368584]On the topic of the glasses, perhaps you should have the brim of the glasses colored similar to the sleeves in 1b for Blu, and a somewhat less saturated color of 1a for Red. I think it would resemble how Spy's balaclava masks his face a little better.

Then again it might also look horrible, and it wouldn't fit the Fez as good I'd reckon.
I just wanted to get the though out there, just in case it would be a good idea.[/QUOTE]

I think I tried that early on and a bunch of people hated it, but I'd be happy to see how it looks now that the rest of it is more refined.

[H11]

If you'd like, I could try to make a promo picture with the model. (Once it's closer to release of course)

[thisguy123]

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;27368374]Well considering that she has the Fez on but not the Fez's sunglasses, I'm sure that CA will anticipate that with the Party Phantom.[/QUOTE]

you misunderstand me, I mean the le,party phantom looks like someone purposely wedged it over their own sunglasses in an attempt to wear both at the same time.
Like people who wear glasses going to see a movie in 3d. *raises hand*

And you end up with the 3d glasses precariously wedged over your own glasses just to see the film properly.

[ChemicalAlia]

[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;27377075]If you'd like, I could try to make a promo picture with the model. (Once it's closer to release of course)[/QUOTE]

Really? That would be pretty awesome.

[H11]

Yeah, I'd love to. It's a cool model, and it deserves a nice release picture.

[ChemicalAlia]

Oh my god. I decompiled, fitted, and recompiled like 15-16 hats last night, and THERE ARE STILL MORE HATS.

I'm gonna make the fez shorter and tilt it to the side a little more. I had to shrink it because placing it right on top of the scarf caused it to look too tall, but I think a shorter cap will look better in her case.

Earbuds and the stupid top hat are being retarded at the moment, and I might have to do something else entirely for the masquerade mask. I really wanted to figure a way to remove the sunglasses with a replacemodel or whatever is used in the .qc to swap the default hat-wearing classes, but that might be too complicated for me to figure out right now.

[img]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/014/2/e/haaaats_by_chemicalalia-d375kd2.jpg[/img]

Lol, I hate how the spy has like 12 hats that basically look like a fedora. I hate fedoras.

[IdleTard]

[QUOTE=ChemicalAlia;27411023]Earbuds and the stupid top hat are being retarded at the moment, and I might have to do something else entirely for the masquerade mask. I really wanted to figure a way to remove the sunglasses with a replacemodel or whatever is used in the .qc to swap the default hat-wearing classes, but that might be too complicated for me to figure out right now.[/QUOTE]

For that, you will have to make them a [url="http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$bodygroup"]bodygroup[/url] in the player model, like this:

$bodygroup hat
{
	studio "glasses_smd_goes_here.smd"
	blank
}

Unfortunately, it's the items_game.txt file that defines if a hat hides the bodygroups or not, so it would only work for a handful of them, more precisely on the allclass ones, since none of the spy-only ones need to remove any bodygroups, so it's not that useful to add them as a bodygroup.

[Bl4ck1ce]

[QUOTE=ChemicalAlia;27411023]Oh my god. I decompiled, fitted, and recompiled like 15-16 hats last night, and THERE ARE STILL MORE HATS.

I'm gonna make the fez shorter and tilt it to the side a little more. I had to shrink it because placing it right on top of the scarf caused it to look too tall, but I think a shorter cap will look better in her case.

Earbuds and the stupid top hat are being retarded at the moment, and I might have to do something else entirely for the masquerade mask. I really wanted to figure a way to remove the sunglasses with a replacemodel or whatever is used in the .qc to swap the default hat-wearing classes, but that might be too complicated for me to figure out right now.

[img_thumb]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/014/2/e/haaaats_by_chemicalalia-d375kd2.jpg[/img_thumb]

Lol, I hate how the spy has like 12 hats that basically look like a fedora. I hate fedoras.[/QUOTE]

Last spy image, she's all "Wait a second :byodood:" whilst all the others are all ":v:"

[ChemicalAlia]

[QUOTE=IdleTard;27411254]For that, you will have to make them a [url="http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$bodygroup"]bodygroup[/url] in the player model, like this:

$bodygroup hat
{
	studio "glasses_smd_goes_here.smd"
	blank
}

Unfortunately, it's the items_game.txt file that defines if a hat hides the bodygroups or not, so it would only work for a handful of them, more precisely on the allclass ones, since none of the spy-only ones need to remove any bodygroups, so it's not that useful to add them as a bodygroup.[/QUOTE]

Ah yeah, that's what I had tried, creating a bodygroup. I think it may not have worked for the reason you stated. If I can get it working, it'd be cool to swap out the sunglasses with one of the all_class hats, but I guess I'll have to make other plans for the mask.

[ChemicalAlia]

Another in-between update, spent the whole weekend troubleshooting, re-uv mapping stuff, smoothing out the rigging, and re-compiling 8000000 hats (with still more to go). But I got some shots in-game yesterday to see how things are starting to look.

[img]http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/016/3/5/haaaaaaaaaaaats_by_chemicalalia-d375kd2.jpg[/img]

The ones on the bottom row are mostly shittily fitted all_class ones that I haven't touched, but they fit enough for me not to want to bother with them.

[img]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/016/e/1/spy_in_game_by_chemicalalia-d37crpb.jpg[/img]

I was freaking out about getting the viewmodel arms to work with all the v and c_model weapons, but then I came up with an awesome ghetto solution and I can't wait to share it. Next on the list is facial expressions, normal maps, and HUD/UI/menu images.

[NeoDement]

you broke teh billybiters teamcolours lol

love the tilt on that though, it's quality. fez made me lmao

[Psychopath]

You missed the [/img] tag on the first one.

[ChemicalAlia]

I know, just fixed it. I even previewed, must be very tired.

[nied]

Sweet Jesus Fighter Pilot.

The Billycock looks fuckin' awesome with its smug little tilt.

[Donksuli]

Glad to see female player model that isn't all about tits.

[Hollywood SN]

[QUOTE=Donksuli;27471574]Glad to see female player model that isn't all about tits.[/QUOTE]

*CoughfemmepyroCough*

[editline]17th January 2011[/editline]

Really though, it looks fantastic, i think i might make a comic even when this comes to gmod.

Just uh, it needs a better phys file...

God damnit.