[QUOTE=Tundra Boy;47184244]So... bigger but of shorter length in scale and use the sniper as a reference?[/QUOTE]
I'd suggest using pistol rounds instead, cause ,you know, Spy doesn't use rifles.
[QUOTE=Juodvarnis;47184259]I'd suggest using pistol rounds instead, cause ,you know, Spy doesn't use rifles.[/QUOTE]
All the same, if they're gonna be shorter like real pistol rounds, I ought to have a lot of them so they are actually noticeable.
[t]http://www.musiclipse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/young_brian_johnson_hat_wallpaper.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/mWWjbDl.png?1[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/4vd3j0G.png?1[/t]
[B]How does one texture curly hair?[/B]
Ah who am I kidding. The third strap and bullets don't fit with the concept do they?
Third strap looks fine IMO, it's the bullets that look weird as it is now.
[QUOTE=BonJons;47184321]How does one texture curly hair?
[t]http://www.musiclipse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/young_brian_johnson_hat_wallpaper.jpg[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/mWWjbDl.png?1[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/4vd3j0G.png?1[/t][/QUOTE]
I hope its also for Sniper
[QUOTE=Cryme Tyme;47184605]I hope its also for Sniper[/QUOTE]
And demo hopefully, might do a whole set including the vest.
[QUOTE=Magypsy;47181389]The bottom of the coat's kind of silhouette destroying and the sleeves don't have much team colouring. I'm guessing the coat will be the same team colour as the Snipers trousers, though.[/QUOTE]
I dont think there would be any confusion regarding what theam or class this guy is
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/SniperSexySet.jpg[/t]
things like the Chronomancer and Poacher's Safari Jacket keep less obvious team colors than this and i'td have to take a lot more than a coat to confuse a sniper for a medic or a soldier
not to say two wrongs make a right but it ought to prove you need less team colors than what this have in order to work ingame
I rarely see anyone mention particle mods here
Snipers and demoman fixtures done.
Any critique for the hair texture? Not great at texturing myself.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/RXJsUE7.png?1[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/j2Eqc94.jpg?1[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/AbdCt82.png?1[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/cxNXAkV.png?1[/t]
Does anyone know how to apply a phong mask to an item? I imported the texture with the parts I want shiny on the Alpha channel (either in the base texture or Shared Phong Exponent) but it didn't look very shiny
[QUOTE=TheJukebox;47183390] Corn is pretty detailed and letters are too close together. Make it simpler so it fits in with the rest of the [URL="https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/List_of_companies"]in game companies[/URL] and it'd look great.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the feedback, the corn is just a stock vector i grabbed as a placeholder, when i draw one up ill be sure to tone down the detail and make the letters less squashed.
[QUOTE=blueNES;47184937]Does anyone know how to apply a phong mask to an item? I imported the texture with the parts I want shiny on the Alpha channel (either in the base texture or Shared Phong Exponent) but it didn't look very shiny[/QUOTE]
gotta edit your phongexponent to something like 10 or 15 and phongboost to something higher than the default, a good starting value would be 1 or 2, and if it isnt shiny enough go higher and if its too shiny than lower etc
[QUOTE=blaholtzen;47184660]I dont think there would be any confusion regarding what theam or class this guy is
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/SniperSexySet.jpg[/t]
things like the Chronomancer and Poacher's Safari Jacket keep less obvious team colors than this and i'td have to take a lot more than a coat to confuse a sniper for a medic or a soldier
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Yes, in this particular picture, it is easy to see what teams these men belong to, mostly due to the bright rags on their necks, which are apparently the main sources of team colouration for the item.
However, the problem is that these men usually carry sniper rifles in their hands, which are very likely to cover most parts of the rags.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/34JkED6.png[/t]
Same happened with the Heavy Lifter: the Workshop pictures were showing it only in the reference pose, and only when it got into the game, it became clear that its team-colored armbands, which were located almost near the elbows, were frequently covered by the Heavy's own forearms, resulting in partial loss of important team colors.
Other sources of this Sniper item's team colors (the emblems on the shoulders, as well as the shirt cuffs) are barely noticeable because of their size, and the fact that the coat itself is slightly team-colored doesn't help much, because the RED version, which uses the color of the default pants, appears more green than red. In addition, the differences in the coat color become tiny when the Sniper is standing in the dark.
All this is made worse by the fact that the Sniper usually stands far away from the enemy, and the said enemy has little to no time to understand what team this Sniper belongs to before getting shot. Furthermore, practically none of the brighter team-colored parts can be seen from behind.
I advice to add bigger and more obvious team-colored elements to the shoulders (armbands are the most famous example) so they can be seen from the front, rear, left and right (like the Sniper's default shirt) and would not be covered by the Sniper's weapons. Even the listed Chronomancer and Poacher's Safari Jacket had more or less of them, and even their team-colored cuffs are bigger.
If you do not wish to change this item (and even if you wish), at least show us and other people the pictures of how does it look like with the sniper rifles, from behind and/or in the dark environment.
And by the way, what is the theme of this set?
[QUOTE=blaholtzen;47184660]I dont think there would be any confusion regarding what theam or class this guy is
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/SniperSexySet.jpg[/t]
things like the Chronomancer and Poacher's Safari Jacket keep less obvious team colors than this and i'td have to take a lot more than a coat to confuse a sniper for a medic or a soldier
not to say two wrongs make a right but it ought to prove you need less team colors than what this have in order to work ingame[/QUOTE]
It's not just team colouring, placement of colours that don't change between teams is important for identifying which class is which. You've completely changed the Sniper's vest, it's gone from dark brown to light grey/navy blue. Sure, you're not going to suddenly think he's a different class, but it's going to confuse you for a split second. TF2 isn't looking a static image of the item, classes are going to be moving, be in different poses, have weapons cover certain sections and sometimes the environment will be blocking different parts of them. That split second of uncertainty about what the other player is could cost them their lives.
Not only that, you didn't even address my point about the silhouette at all. Sniper is very tall and thin, the whole coat, especially the bottom half of it, make him a lot bulkier and add a large covered area down to his knees. The classes in TF2 all have such well-thought out colour placement and shapes that makes everyone identifiable at a glance and stuff like this just worries me. I'm sorry.
EDIT: About the Chronomancer and Poacher's Safari Jacket, they do change areas of team colouring, but they were still obvious and they change them using nearby colours. They add areas of light/dark brown that already appeared around the Sniper's sleeves while still having large stripes of team colouring from the side, that yours doesn't. You've replaced it with the colours from the Sniper's trousers, which have no place being anywhere above his lower half.
Here's the texture in game, pretty happy with the the hat textures but not sure about the hair.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/BhwINCN.jpg?1[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/PlD486f.jpg?1[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/q3XJkY9.png?1[/t]
I like the idea of it. The collar of the shirt needs to look a little more like a collar, though, and the tie looks like a noose.
[QUOTE=blaholtzen;47184660]I dont think there would be any confusion regarding what theam or class this guy is
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/SniperSexySet.jpg[/t]
things like the Chronomancer and Poacher's Safari Jacket keep less obvious team colors than this and i'td have to take a lot more than a coat to confuse a sniper for a medic or a soldier
not to say two wrongs make a right but it ought to prove you need less team colors than what this have in order to work ingame[/QUOTE]
This was an argument I made back when Ertz, Stev, and I were working on the Down-under Duster. This argument isn't a solid enough foundation to give reason to leave team color as is as we learned during our experience. The chromomancer is literally terrible with its dark team colors that aren't visible past mid range, and the safari jacket's colors are fine because there are a lot of them and they are also bright.
I would suggest making an armband instead of just team coloring his logo, because the small strip below the elbow and the logo aren't enough on their own.
[img]http://puu.sh/g6GMe.jpg[/img]
[T]http://puu.sh/g6GvH/0a7ee82e87.png[/T]
I'm not sure what colour to make this, or whther to keep it white, so, it's time for a vote:
[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/IMG] - Keep it White
[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/palette.png[/IMG] - Light Grey
[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/box.png[/IMG] - Light Yellow (to show that it's old / rusted)
[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/clock.png[/IMG] - Dark Team Colour (similar to Balaclavas are Forever)
[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/heart.png[/IMG] - Black
BTW, I do have a Phong mask applied, so don't worry about that
Oh and also, if I made it Dark Team Coloured / Black, I'd make the spike and the side buttons gold
[img]http://i.imgur.com/mHhPsvT.png[/img]
Any critics? I am bored.
I'm glad to say I've taken several steps back. No more second strap and no more bullets. They were excessive.
[IMG]http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2015/052/c/f/folds_by_tundura-d8iyk2t.png[/IMG]
Folds were recommended. Folds are being made.
[B]Classy Attire[/B]
[i]Looks to burn for![/i]
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[QUOTE=BonJons;47184833]Snipers and demoman fixtures done.
Any critique for the hair texture? Not great at texturing myself.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/RXJsUE7.png?1[/t]
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Makes me wanna make a danny sexbang set for sniper, the hair is almost picture perfect
[QUOTE=ikes;47186951]Makes me wanna make a danny sexbang set for sniper, the hair is almost picture perfect[/QUOTE]
Do it.
[B]Please[/B]
I don't have the energy to adress all those crits individually for a second time so i'll just cut it down to the following:
I've considered all the details and my opinion is still that it everything should be fine. I will not be changing anything about the fundamental design beyond this point. If you still find major issues with the design feel free do downvote the item once it's uploaded.
Generally I find the most interesting items are the ones that challenge the rules without breaking them. And thats usually what I try to do with my designs, being conventional and sticking to all the rules just means you'll end up crapping out generic items over and over.
One might want to consider that just a few years ago any item that was larger than a characters hand was seen as too much by many members of the community, and back then one of the only people who was willing to bend the rules was svdl, and look at where he is now.
[IMG]http://imgur.com/QyAM146[/IMG] Had this item set idea for a while now, so I finally drew it. Critiques would be appreciated, as I am relatively new to making item concepts.
[B]Edit:[/B]The image isn't working for me so I'll post the link just in-case other people have the same problem. [url]http://imgur.com/QyAM146[/url]
[QUOTE=JPRAS;47186842][B]Classy Attire[/B]
[i]Looks to burn for![/i]
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The coat being a darker color kinda bugs me, but thats just my personal opinion.
[IMG]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2015/052/0/c/folds_by_tundura-d8j03fh.jpg[/IMG]
[url]https://skfb.ly/CStV[/url]
Alright! Modeled in some folds. Let me know what you think. I appreciate any feedback as always.
[QUOTE=JPRAS;47186842][B]Classy Attire[/B]
[i]Looks to burn for![/i]
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God that's sexy. How does it look at LOD 1 (medium model setting)?
(I ask because the problem with a lot of good looking items are fucked at medium settings, like the Lunatic's Leathers)
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