MvM Discussion Megathread: Do Androids Complain of Overpowered Upgrades? - Games

Just watched someone get a gold Wrench while i got a special shortstop killstreak kill me

nothing wrong with the shortstop

[QUOTE=Punchy;44084825]Just watched someone get a gold Wrench while i got a special shortstop killstreak kill me[/QUOTE] Better than a fucking proffessional pain train kit. A lot better. Be grateful you got something someone might actually want. Although really with all the strange stats they're giving to weapons nowadays I'm not sure if people use the shortstop anymore.

[QUOTE=Wolf532;44086733]Better than a fucking proffessional pain train kit. A lot better. Be grateful you got something someone might actually want. Although really with all the strange stats they're giving to weapons nowadays I'm not sure if people use the shortstop anymore.[/QUOTE] that actually sounds better besides, i watched my friend win a pro fanowar kit, so you should learn your place

You found a gold minigun when the tour first came out, why are you upset someone found an australium

[QUOTE=DrCactus;44086975]You found a gold minigun when the tour first came out, why are you upset someone found an australium[/QUOTE] because i'm [sp]a greedy arrogant little prick and also[/sp] tired of just killstreaks and specialized i play it for fun but it's just a bummer when valve refuses to throw you a bone for 10 straight tours

[QUOTE=Punchy;44086982] i play it for fun but it's just a bummer when valve refuses to throw you a bone for 10 straight tours[/QUOTE] My last gold was tour 18. I'm almost at 60. 10 tours no gold is nothing.

[QUOTE=FiveEyes;44087025]My last gold was tour 18. I'm almost at 60. 10 tours no gold is nothing.[/QUOTE] 10 tours of no gold or pro just the standard FANOWAR KIT YOU'LL LIKE THAT RIGHT

They really need to tweak how some weapons get their killstreak thing. Like, Fan o war should also count assists or something

[t]http://puu.sh/7evq8.jpg[/t] dang, so close to 200k damage. maybe next time i'll invest in more damage early. really loving the scottish resistance though.

What's more fun than to blow the Giant robot and left Uber Medics/Giant Medic for your team to deal with :v:

[QUOTE=FiveEyes;44087025]My last gold was tour 18. I'm almost at 60. 10 tours no gold is nothing.[/QUOTE] I met a guy who got his first gold on tour ninety something. Poor chap.

I just wanna play Mecha Engine for old timesake, but I don't want to coach everyone on the meta loadouts. Yeah I know that I tend to dislike the meta, but that doesn't apply to meta loadouts [sp]although I'm ok with certain alts i.e. Machina in place of Heatmaker or Degreaser in place of Backburner[/sp]

[QUOTE=HouraiDoll;44087836]I just wanna play Mecha Engine for old timesake, but I don't want to coach everyone on the meta loadouts. Yeah I know that I tend to dislike the meta, but that doesn't apply to meta loadouts [sp]although I'm ok with certain alts i.e. Machina in place of Heatmaker or Degreaser in place of Backburner[/sp][/QUOTE] Degreaser offers such a little upside though at the cost of contact damage and afterburn damage. MvM's set up in such a way that you'll typically only be using and upgrading 1 weapon a majority of the time, aside from a few classes who opt for more than just the 1 to operate well such as Scout, Medic, Engineer. Really, swapping weapons quickly isn't that helpful when your flamethrower is out most of the time already. The Degreaser's call to fame is that it excels in 1v1 confrontations compared to other flamethrowers. Unless you're going out of your way to do something completely different such as upgrading your Flare Gun and Axtinguisher while having the Degreaser as an airblast-cannon that you can access in a blink, there's not much worth to it compared to the other options. Don't get me wrong, Degreaser can work, but not optimally if you're going to upgrade as if you had any other primary solely because of the damage penalties that you're slapped with. Flare Machingun that I mentioned above is an example of something unorthodox that I've seen work, but it requires upgrading explicitly for that purpose.

I wish overheal expert would scale the 142.5% health cutoff point for ubercharge rates. It's annoying, and it would make the QF and vaccinator less bad.

I wish I could play MvM. There are actually ZERO servers to play on.

[QUOTE=Armisael;44091210]I wish overheal expert would scale the 142.5% health cutoff point for ubercharge rates. It's annoying, and it would make the QF and vaccinator less bad.[/QUOTE] I thought Vaccinator's Ubercharge rate is completely unaffected by overheal or healing from other Medic/Dispenser?

So it does. That's nice to know; I wish that was stated somewhere (anywhere).

don't worry, valve made sure to reduce the buyable uber rate levels so the gun isnt a match with the others

That isn't exclusive to the mediguns; it happens on every weapon that already has one of the buyable stats. The stock medigun has 4 pips of ubercharge rate; the kritz and the QF have 3 (since they start with +25%), and the vaccinator has 2 pips (since it starts with +50%). Similarly, you can only buy 1 pip of health on kill for the powerjack, since it starts with +75 health on kill.

i know. and its very stupid. Let's say you have 2 soldiers, one with the directhit and one with the RL the DH only has 3 damage upgrades, it would make sense because it starts with one right? no. because at the end of the day, the RL will have +100% damage with full splash while the DH has +100% with -70% splash. so in order to make it fair, the DH should have access to +125% damage to compensate. it's not really complicated. what valve doesn't understand is you can't offset the downsides, so reducing the buyable perks of an unlock always makes it inferior in later waves.

Does nobody like to play Engie in MvM? I've gotten into several matches where none of the other 5 people are engie or when asked to go engie people make a big stink about it and complain about people wanting them to be engie. Personally I don't really mind playing engie but after so many matches I'd like to actually be able to play something else once in a while.

[QUOTE=Anderan;44095110]Does nobody like to play Engie in MvM? I've gotten into several matches where none of the other 5 people are engie or when asked to go engie people make a big stink about it and complain about people wanting them to be engie. Personally I don't really mind playing engie but after so many matches I'd like to actually be able to play something else once in a while.[/QUOTE] It's critically important, but not usually particularly exciting. People get angry at you when you do it "wrong". It's like medic in regular TF2.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;44092317]i know. and its very stupid. Let's say you have 2 soldiers, one with the directhit and one with the RL the DH only has 3 damage upgrades, it would make sense because it starts with one right? no. because at the end of the day, the RL will have +100% damage with full splash while the DH has +100% with -70% splash.[/QUOTE] Same for the loch n load and since it has a +20% damage bonus from the start when you fully upgrade it it does 5% less total damage than the stock. Edit: Huh, turns out that's wrong. Could have sworn there was a difference last time someone told me the lnl did more damage than stock fully upgraded.

THIS IS GETTING FUCKING RIDICULOUS [t]http://puu.sh/7fMct.jpg[/t] this is the THIRD [3rd] game IN A ROW someone OTHER THAN ME has gotten an australium last game someone got a medigun, and the game before that someone got a wrench not even a whole tour, either. 3 missions in a row, someone on my team has won an australium. [editline]2nd March 2014[/editline] turns out the guy was so happy he gave all of us a free key damn I HAVE MIDAS TOUCH

Well I just played with a medic with a Vaccinator, and it actually works really well than I though, because those small ubers can easily revive people faster than the Quick-Fix.

I just want to finish my tour, please please stop putting me in with people who have 0 tours I just joined a game and they lost to the first wave of scouts on wave 1, joined and DC'd in about 10 seconds, not even wasting my time with that shit

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This is pretty sad I just met a guy with 103 tours but he did not get a single australium weapon

Its weird. I have a friend who only plays MVM with me, and shes found 2 australiums in only 9 tours. Meanwhile, I've found 2 in 66 :v: