MvM Discussion Megathread: Do Androids Complain of Overpowered Upgrades? - Games

[QUOTE=Hng;43179748]So what wrench should an engie use if not the jag?[/QUOTE] stock is totally fine.

[QUOTE=DrCactus;43172814]Kunai is my preferred knife when I go spy since I don't have to buy health on kill. I just wish it didn't gimp your medic overheal so much[/QUOTE] I prefer big earner. Robots drop no weapons, so that extra DR recharge is very useful.

[QUOTE=Hng;43179748]So what wrench should an engie use if not the jag?[/QUOTE] I would use botkiller because it's beautiful. That is, if I played engy in MvM. And if I had a botkiller wrench.

[QUOTE=Omninerd;43181197]I would use botkiller because it's beautiful. That is, if I played engy in MvM. And if I had a botkiller wrench.[/QUOTE] I prefer golden wrench.

I see no problem with the Jag tbh. The upsides small, yeah but I never use my wrench for actual combat anyway. And in MVM I try to keep my building canteen usage to a minimum [QUOTE=Drury;43180705]I prefer big earner. Robots drop no weapons, so that extra DR recharge is very useful.[/QUOTE] I switch between kunai and Big Earner, although if I'm looking to get a DR charge I just use the L'Etranger. it gets the job done pretty well in emergencies

I'd say the Jag needs some retouching so it reflects better its stats...

[QUOTE=HyperTails;43179409]Isn't the Jag's stats kinda broken anyway? I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually have a 25% decrease in build time, someone proved that once[/QUOTE] I was told it works like this: Sentry builds at 100% construction speed. Hitting it with your wrench makes it 200%. the jag, the jag, rather than increasing the rate by 30%, just adds 30% build rate onto it. So it kind of works how it should. So instead of the 260% you'd expect, you get 230%.

For a lot of time I thought the Jag bonus was applied on passive construction time. They should update the description to make it more clear... [sp]Or just change it to be a passive bonus :v:[/sp]

I guess being Scout in MvM can be on a pause for a while now for me, as being a demo was so much fun and actually relaxing while doing Empire Escalation. And ScoRes is the best damn thing ever with a Kritzkrieg medic <3

Jag: +30% Faster Swinging -30% Damage DPS stays the same, and the 30% faster build time actually works.

[QUOTE=skullorz;43205571]Jag: +30% Faster Swinging -30% Damage DPS stays the same, and the 30% faster build time actually works.[/QUOTE] I'd equip that for the sole reason of saving 600 on swing speed upgrade, which equals as 12 free building upgrade canteens.

Going to be doing my 20th mann up two cities tour tonight - still not a single gold weapon drop and only two professional kits. Am I unlucky as shit or is this common?

[QUOTE=skullorz;43205571]Jag: +30% Faster Swinging -30% Damage DPS stays the same, and the 30% faster build time actually works.[/QUOTE] faster swing does not affect construction rate. all you did was make it a monster at upgrading and repairing which would be OP in pvp

[QUOTE=Hng;43206552]Going to be doing my 20th mann up two cities tour tonight - still not a single gold weapon drop and only two professional kits. Am I unlucky as shit or is this common?[/QUOTE] It's common to not get gold, they happen by chance ignore that i got a gold on my 8th, i've gotten like 4 professionals out of my current 13ish tours constantly playing doesnt increase your chances by playing so much, you have the same chance every time. it's like rolling the wheel of fortune thinking "i've gotten every single slot EXCEPT the best one, maybe i'll get it now"

[QUOTE=Hell-met;43206558]faster swing does not affect construction rate. all you did was make it a monster at upgrading and repairing which would be OP in pvp[/QUOTE] okay lets fix it then Jag: +30% Faster Build Time (multiplicative like you'd expect) -whatever it had now

[IMG]http://puu.sh/5PzBl/6437350934.jpg[/IMG] That's a lot of tours.

are you complaining? I love playing with high tours. I can run gunboats/mantreads and nobody gives a shit.

Or when you go full attack scunt and nobody cares about it either :v: Aaaannnddd... [t]http://i.imgur.com/0AgRVXm.jpg[/t] My dream is completed.

Do the old tours have the new robot parts and killstreak stuff or is it just the new 2 cities ones?

2cities only.

[QUOTE=ThePro1234;43212164]2cities only.[/QUOTE] That's really stupid, but I guess it's just the botkillers of it (I'd still like the chance for killstreak fabricators though)

[QUOTE=Hell-met;43211245]are you complaining? I love playing with high tours. I can run gunboats/mantreads and nobody gives a shit.[/QUOTE] Yep. I was a rocket jumper, conch, full upgraded pan soldier replacing the scout on manhattan after I could afford to refund. Nobody cares and it's fun.

[QUOTE=sergiuung;43212210]Yep. I was a rocket jumper, conch, full upgraded pan soldier replacing the scout on manhattan after I could afford to refund. Nobody cares and it's fun.[/QUOTE] i'm not talking about refunds. from start to end.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;43212253]i'm not talking about refunds. from start to end.[/QUOTE] I wasn't trying to be completely useless.

[QUOTE=sergiuung;43212389]I wasn't trying to be completely useless.[/QUOTE] hopefully you are not implying unconventional loadouts are useless

[QUOTE=Hell-met;43212413]hopefully you are not implying unconventional loadouts are useless[/QUOTE] I'm not, but I'd rather stick to meta for the first few waves to make sure the team gets reliable income.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;43211245]are you complaining? I love playing with high tours. I can run gunboats/mantreads and nobody gives a shit.[/QUOTE] I've played with high tours once. They votekicked me the instant they witnessed my Quick Fix.

[QUOTE=Drury;43212448]I've played with high tours once. They votekicked me the instant they witnessed my Quick Fix.[/QUOTE] they would have shat themselves over this :v: dh + treads [thumb]http://www.sourceop.com/hell-met/TF2/mantreads.jpg[/thumb]

Treads are actually somewhat useful some waves, especially against those liberty launchers that have their blast force multiplied by sky box

[QUOTE=gigazelle;43213185]Treads are actually somewhat useful some waves, especially against those liberty launchers that have their blast force multiplied by sky box[/QUOTE] buff banner is waaaay better though. benefits the whole team with more DPS