[QUOTE=FunkyDisko77;24091727]Why? It wouldn't ruin the entire god damned game for everyone who ever bought or played it if it was implemented as a serverside toggleable cvar[/QUOTE]
No, that's not what I meant. He's saying it should be available for every player on every server, and that it wouldn't break the game if this was the case.. It would.
[QUOTE=Raiderz;24091764]This could be a good Idea, except it would divide the community up into First Person players and Third Person players. And if it splits them right down the middle, each group has half as many severs to choose from.[/QUOTE]
No it wouldn't
If this thread is any indication, 99% of the people who played TF2 would play exclusively 1st person and ignore the existence of anyone who played the 3rd person mode for no good reason.
All this thread is is a suggestion to add in a separate playable mode where the camera is not contained inside your face but rather 4 or 5 feet back above your head
It doesn't change any core game mechanics, it doesn't ruin anything, and most people are screaming and raving about how it's the worst idea ever.
[QUOTE=FunkyDisko77;24091826]It doesn't change any core game mechanics, it doesn't ruin anything, and most people are screaming and raving about how it's the worst idea ever.[/QUOTE]
If this many people agree it is a bad idea, it probably is a bad idea.
We've already pointed out how much it ruins gameplay.
My intellectual point?
My point is that the community hates this idiotic idea, meaning, IT MAKES IT A BAD IDEA.
[QUOTE=Benstokes;24091779]No, that's not what I meant. He's saying it should be available for every player on every server, and that it wouldn't break the game if this was the case.. It would.[/QUOTE]
The vibe I got from the OP was that it would be an entirely separate server-wide toggleable thing, rather than a player-controlled thing that was controlled by each player individually on any server
If it's the former, I think it would be pretty fun
If it's the latter, disregard my arguments, the OP is retarded
I'd like thirdperson in a shoulder view for sure.
But thirdperson itself would break the game, as stated around 5 times.
Also something related but not fully relevant:
sv_cheats 1
thirdperson
kill
go heavy with minigun/go sniper with smg/huntsman deployed/go spy with ambassador/revolver while crouching
[QUOTE=Simski;24091855]If this many people agree it is a bad idea, it probably is a bad idea.
We've already pointed out how much it ruins gameplay.[/QUOTE]
I think i'm arguing for a different point than the OP is, my bad
I was defending the idea of a server-side option where EVERYONE would be in third person all the time, rather than a player-controlled individual option.
[QUOTE=FunkyDisko77;24091871]The vibe I got from the OP was that it would be an entirely separate server-wide toggleable thing, rather than a player-controlled thing that was controlled by each player individually on any server
If it's the former, I think it would be pretty fun
If it's the latter, disregard my arguments, the OP is retarded[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure he means it to be universal..
"Well, I didn't say it was a gamemode"
That quote, as well as the fact that he's arguing that it wouldn't be overpowered, means it's probably meant to be a user-toggleable setting. If it WAS a gamemode, then "overpowered" isn't even an issue, since everybody has it. It would still make spies and surprise engineers slightly less useful, but it could work out.
[QUOTE=Sir Muffin;24090766]Har har. Really useful. That's absolutely groundbreaking, and I never would've come to that [I]astounding[/I] enlightenment if it wasn't for your superior intellect. Have my children!
Get out of my thread if you're just going to spam it up with useless replies.[/QUOTE]
This is all the proof I need for your being a 12 year old whine machine.
[QUOTE=Benstokes;24091970]I'm pretty sure he means it to be universal..
"Well, I didn't say it was a gamemode"
That quote, as well as the fact that he's arguing that it wouldn't be overpowered, means it's probably meant to be a user-toggleable setting. If it WAS a gamemode, then "overpowered" isn't even an issue, since everybody has it. It would still make spies and surprise engineers slightly less useful, but it could work out.[/QUOTE]
My apologies if I did not read the OP thoroughly enough to get the general interpretation
As user-toggleable, this idea is horrid
[QUOTE=Sir Muffin;24091480]And...more irrelevance.
When you finally manage to cultivate enough neurons to hold up a conversation when it goes against you, come back here and post. For now, you're just clogging up the page with useless text.
This is what you get for being a moron in my thread.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0[/media]
No.
I love the idea , just imagine blasting off shots as a heavy of in over-shoulder\3`d-person , i like what i see.
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[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;24092112][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0[/media][/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bImBBTaPDY&feature=related[/media]
P.S.
So many haters in this thread , sheesh , it`s just a suggestion not like VALVe just decided they will delay P0RTAL 2 another year and work on this instead.
[QUOTE=Obernah!;24092287]I love the idea , just imagine blasting off shots as a heavy of in over-shoulder\3`d-person , i like what i see.
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bImBBTaPDY&feature=related[/media]
P.S.
So many haters in this thread , sheesh , it`s just a suggestion not like VALVe just decided they will delay P0RTAL 2 another year and work on this instead.[/QUOTE]
Many times I have posted that video, and not once has someone responded with that.
Well played sir, I salute you
[img]http://www.lowe-impact.com/images/AFGM%20Rob%20Saluting%20-%206.jpg[/img]
You tell us this becase we are the ones who implement this in-game right?
[QUOTE=Sir Muffin;24090429]How so? Bonk! already has third person on use.
Now you're going to tell me it's not a threat because you can't hurt anyone when it's active? You can scope out sentries more easily, not to mention more of a chance to avoid people trying to pin you in a corner.
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Exactly, you can't pre-aim your shot around a corner, or know to avoid coming around a corner cause you can see a sentry or whatever.
Avoiding to be pinned in a corner because you have 3rd person view is HARDLY justification to give 3rd person view for all situations.
[QUOTE=BeefMcGraw;24092608]Exactly, you can't pre-aim your shot around a corner, or know to avoid coming around a corner cause you can see a sentry or whatever.
Avoiding to be pinned in a corner because you have 3rd person view is HARDLY justification to give 3rd person view for all situations.[/QUOTE]
Was a bit late of a reply considering the OP seems to have abandoned his thread
Camping demos would cheer for joy then, as you can see around corners
I think he means something like this
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVG4FMC_Ze4[/media]
[QUOTE=sturff;24093109]I think he means something like this
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVG4FMC_Ze4[/media][/QUOTE]
Could work, with a few adjustments.
"DING-"
EDIT: I am king of page.
another example
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FApnNR23juM[/media]
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sv_cheats 1; thirdperson
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Team Fortress doesn't have aiming and thus constant over the shoulder would have to be enabled.
Constant over the shoulder is annoying as hell.
Just play the FPS as an FPS.
[QUOTE=sturff;24093109]I think he means something like this
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVG4FMC_Ze4[/media][/QUOTE]
Basically, this.
Whether server-side or not, it doesn't really matter that much to me (even though I would prefer it as a choice in any server if possible). It's just the idea, and it could be tweaked as necessary. Frankly, watching the first of those two videos, the angle would only possibly allow you to "cheat" when looking left around a corner, again lowering the chances for abuse.
[QUOTE=Sir Muffin;24090123]doesnt know hats are used for you to know you have and everyone to see. They are used to show dominance over everyone else and intimidate them.[/QUOTE]
Mjeh, couldn't someone just make a server side plugin?
I mean if people can modify their servers to make their dispensers fire heat seeking rockets I don't quite understand why this wouldn't be possible :S
[QUOTE=sturff;24097326]another example
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FApnNR23juM[/media][/QUOTE]
I'd love to have that in-game :v:
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