TF2 Chat and Speculation V5 - Merry Skinssmas - Games

would underwater combat be more interesting if all primaries jammed, but only pistols/shotguns/smg worked? :thinking:

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;53051241]Did Valve ever confirm that CSGO wasn't getting a full Source 2 port? The only thing I remember seeing directly from them was the Valve News Network interview with one of the CSGO guys who said Source 2 is the future of CSGO (and he also said Source 2 is probably every other game that isn't already Source 2, which of course implies TF2). However of course the way he worded it was somewhat vague.[/QUOTE] They confirmed a full S2 port march last year during a Perfect World keynote, this was also where they announced Hydra & 128 tick.

[QUOTE=valvenews;53051345]They confirmed a full S2 port march last year during a Perfect World keynote, this was also where they announced Hydra & 128 tick.[/QUOTE] I've pretty much given up on Dave Riller ever answering the rest of your email questions. Hopefully Valve will have another set of press interviews this year where you can ask directly about the future of TF2 and Source 2.

There are bots on backpack.tf selling keys for less refined than bots on the same site are buying them for. Is this a sign of the apocalypse?

[QUOTE=ASIC;53051544]There are bots on backpack.tf selling keys for less refined than bots on the same site are buying them for. Is this a sign of the apocalypse?[/QUOTE] its geel's 4D Economy tricks his plan is to buy all the ref in tf2 and thus save the tf2 economy

And then he saves the economy by deleting every key,creating a reset on the price to be set by the new keys that will be brought,returning us at the 2.55 ref key price

[QUOTE=valvenews;53051345]They confirmed a full S2 port march last year during a Perfect World keynote, this was also where they announced Hydra & 128 tick.[/QUOTE] Unless we hear it from the CSGO devs themselves, I'm going to assume that was an error in communication or translation. [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Gaben/comments/5olhj4/hi_im_gabe_newell_ama/dck9w16/]What was confirmed was a backport of the Panorama UI from Source 2.[/url] Nothing else has even suggested that they've changed their minds and opted for a full port.

Now that we have all known the true [I]Despair[/I] of a drought that was even longer than an entire year I think we are all ready to be filled again with [I]Hope[/I] for the future! Then again we'll only know the [I]truth[/I] of our expectations when the update actually releases, then we'll find out if we were just lying to ourselves. [IMG]https://files.catbox.moe/3a5h65.png[/IMG] This stupid hat goes to a person that guesses the next Month the next Major Update happens, Winner in the Rating pool will be selected randomly - only one Winner. [B]Related Information to what it'll be and when it will drop:[/B] - Many are speculating the next update will be focused on the [B]Heavy[/B] since Valve mentioned it in a Blog Post: [QUOTE]But! Okay, both of them might get new Class Updates at some point. In fact, [b]it's highly likely they both will.[/b] [/QUOTE] If you believe the TF Team has changed their position on this topic, or how you understand this sentence is up to you - really. - Competitive is [I]still[/I] in the works and is still being developed. The only information we have gotten to it is a Chat message from Jill to Geel containing this: [IMG]https://files.catbox.moe/kacq3s.png[/IMG] - Asteroid and Cactus Canyon still exist in map limbo and so does the Finale of the comic series. As of a few days it has now been an entire year since the last Comic. - There is still a Party option in the main menu to allow parties to mix in teams which says "COMING SOON!" - Jungle Inferno will end on [B]February 11th.[/B] - Jungle Inferno [I]started[/I] on October 24th. ----------------------------------------------------------- [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/IMG] for February. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/cross.png[/IMG] for March. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/funny2.png[/IMG] for April. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/winner.png[/IMG] for May. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/zing.png[/IMG] for June. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/information.png[/IMG] for July. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/clock.png[/IMG] for August. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/heart.png[/IMG] for September. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/wrench.png[/IMG] for October. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/IMG] for November. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/box.png[/IMG] for [I]Not this year.[/I] [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/palette.png[/IMG] for the TF Team changing up their Update schedule and now working with Medium/smaller updates on a more frequent basis instead of Major ones. Good luck!

You people brag about gold dueling badges i got my prof specs at 2 new players helped,how many new players you helped?

[QUOTE=Big Snake Bos;53051762]You people brag about gold dueling badges i got my prof specs at 2 new players helped,how many new players you helped?[/QUOTE] also 2, one from my friend and another one from some random dude on a valve server.

[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;53051743]Unless we hear it from the CSGO devs themselves, I'm going to assume that was an error in communication or translation. [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Gaben/comments/5olhj4/hi_im_gabe_newell_ama/dck9w16/]What was confirmed was a backport of the Panorama UI from Source 2.[/url] Nothing else has even suggested that they've changed their minds and opted for a full port.[/QUOTE] In the VNN video interview the CSGO team member says Source 2 is in the future of CSGO as the long term vision though it isn't super clear what will happen. I'm not sure how different Source 1 and 2 are but I can see how having all active games on the same engine would be good for the way Valve is structured.

[QUOTE=Fluury;53051584]its geel's 4D Economy tricks his plan is to buy all the ref in tf2 and thus save the tf2 economy[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Big Snake Bos;53051658]And then he saves the economy by deleting every key,creating a reset on the price to be set by the new keys that will be brought,returning us at the 2.55 ref key price[/QUOTE] That’s not how economics works. The bots are buying high and selling low; they’re losing ref. Then if geel starts deleting keys, it’ll just increase the price of each key in terms of tradable items. [editline]14th January 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Hell-met;53051336]would underwater combat be more interesting if all primaries jammed, but only pistols/shotguns/smg worked? :thinking:[/QUOTE] Engineers become masters of the sea.

[QUOTE=Fluury;53051755]Now that we have all known the true [I]Despair[/I] of a drought that was even longer than an entire year I think we are all ready to be filled again with [I]Hope[/I] for the future! Then again we'll only know the [I]truth[/I] of our expectations when the update actually releases, then we'll find out if we were just lying to ourselves. [IMG]https://files.catbox.moe/3a5h65.png[/IMG] This stupid hat goes to a person that guesses the next Month the next Major Update happens, Winner in the Rating pool will be selected randomly - only one Winner. [B]Related Information to what it'll be and when it will drop:[/B] - Many are speculating the next update will be focused on the [B]Heavy[/B] since Valve mentioned it in a Blog Post: If you believe the TF Team has changed their position on this topic, or how you understand this sentence is up to you - really. - Competitive is [I]still[/I] in the works and is still being developed. The only information we have gotten to it is a Chat message from Jill to Geel containing this: [IMG]https://files.catbox.moe/kacq3s.png[/IMG] - Asteroid and Cactus Canyon still exist in map limbo and so does the Finale of the comic series. As of a few days it has now been an entire year since the last Comic. - There is still a Party option in the main menu to allow parties to mix in teams which says "COMING SOON!" - Jungle Inferno will end on [B]February 11th.[/B] - Jungle Inferno [I]started[/I] on October 24th. ----------------------------------------------------------- [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/IMG] for February. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/cross.png[/IMG] for March. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/funny2.png[/IMG] for April. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/winner.png[/IMG] for May. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/zing.png[/IMG] for June. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/information.png[/IMG] for July. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/clock.png[/IMG] for August. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/heart.png[/IMG] for September. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/wrench.png[/IMG] for October. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/IMG] for November. [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/box.png[/IMG] for [I]Not this year.[/I] [IMG]https://facepunch.com/fp/ratings/palette.png[/IMG] for the TF Team changing up their Update schedule and now working with Medium/smaller updates on a more frequent basis instead of Major ones. Good luck![/QUOTE] Reposted since new page and dont want this to get buried: I also messed up. I have removed the December option and it replaced August since I by complete accident made August and July the same. Please change accordingly! (Obviously rate the original post, not this one)

[QUOTE=Big Snake Bos;53051762]You people brag about gold dueling badges i got my prof specs at 2 new players helped,how many new players you helped?[/QUOTE] I helped out 8.

[QUOTE=ASIC;53051544]There are bots on backpack.tf selling keys for less refined than bots on the same site are buying them for. Is this a sign of the apocalypse?[/QUOTE] All According To Plan

How do you think Valve would portray the USSR in the TF2 universe? edit: seems to be more serious than normal tf2 stuff based on Heavy's backstory

Speaking of backpack.tf, according to the price page of the [URL="https://backpack.tf/stats/Strange/Jag/Tradable/Craftable"]strange jag[/URL], anyone who had purchased strange jags by the end of 2013 would have received a 450% return on investment if they were sold today, or a 650% return on investment if they cashed out back in early 2017 after the jag received a buff. Strange jags were a solid investment all along.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;53052187]Speaking of backpack.tf, according to the price page of the [URL="https://backpack.tf/stats/Strange/Jag/Tradable/Craftable"]strange jag[/URL], anyone who had purchased strange jags by the end of 2013 would have received a 450% return on investment if they were sold today, or a 650% return on investment if they cashed out back in early 2017 after the jag received a buff. Strange jags were a solid investment all along.[/QUOTE] Maybe, but if you were to buy up any [i]real[/i] amount of them to make a proper investment, the price would rapidly increase as the supply dwindled.

Guess who made a tf2 video [video=youtube;y6P2UL8nq3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6P2UL8nq3s[/video]

[QUOTE=Big Snake Bos;53052325]Guess who made a tf2 video [video=youtube;y6P2UL8nq3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6P2UL8nq3s[/video][/QUOTE] Watching the video, he obviously doesn't care about the game, therefore it's hard to take any of his criticisms seriously. Most of his complaints are pedantic except the fact that Valve didn't add any comp changes, which literally everyone agrees was a very stupid move. They could've at the very least acknowledged it will be in the next major update. The fact that he was being completely negative about the Jungle Inferno update before it was even released shows how much he doesn't care for the game in general.

[QUOTE=Zadrave;53052372]Watching the video, he obviously doesn't care about the game, therefore it's hard to take any of his criticisms seriously. Most of his complaints are pedantic except the fact that Valve didn't add any comp changes, which literally everyone agrees was a very stupid move. They could've at the very least acknowledged it will be in the next major update. The fact that he was being mostly negative about the Pyro update before it was even released shows how much he doesn't care for the game in general.[/QUOTE] At least this video wasn't "VALVE SUCKS FUCK YOU FOR PLAYING TF2". Though I have to say he completely skipped the Pyro changes.

[QUOTE=Big Snake Bos;53052325]Guess who made a tf2 video [video=youtube;y6P2UL8nq3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6P2UL8nq3s[/video][/QUOTE] Who? [I](seriously, never heard of this guy).[/I] I know the guy says he doesn't touch TF2 all that much, but the video kinda just seems like shit throwing for the sake of it. Which I suppose is the purpose of the video. Like the whole reason comp barely got touched was the intended changes weren't ready, TFTeam learned from their previous fuck up of realising an unfinished matchmaking system and really didn't want to start another burning torches and pitchforks scenario. I can respect that honestly, and sure I'm still impatient for comp to be fun and investing to play. Ranks that matter and hopefully a ranking system similar to CSGO's, but that's just wishful thinking. I also like how he mentions Valve isn't a little indie team and he recognises that TFTeam is small but yet won't give them a pass. I mean with Valve's infrastructure it's all voluntary, if someone doesn't want to work on TF2 they simply won't. Most prefer to work on the more interesting or 'fun' projects that are newer. It doesn't seem entirely right to jump back into a game with no investment and give uneducated statements as if they were fact, but whatever I suppose. I'm not defending the update at all, a good chunk was community made as predicted. Some weapon changes made me confused as to why, like the panic attack was already pretty garbage tier if you weren't glued to the enemy but now it's entirely trash. 2 out of 4 of the new weapons are pretty useless when compared to other options for Pyro. I dunno, maybe my expectations were already low so I didn't nitpick at every little thing in the update, I was simply happy seeing new things to play with. Contracts were a bonus and new maps that people actually play was nice to see, albeit them designed just as well as dustbowl. I've just gotten used to the fact if an update does come out for TF2 that isn't the end-all, usually is followed by patch after patch as things are ironed out, I guess this guy just expected A+ perfection day 1.

[QUOTE=Big Snake Bos;53052325]Guess who made a tf2 video [video=youtube;y6P2UL8nq3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6P2UL8nq3s[/video][/QUOTE] Guess who made a TF2 video instead of dealing with his crippling, cringeworthy personal issues?

Saw a reddit edit: [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/7qcrr9/uhh_fish_you_alright_there_bud/"]post[/URL] of the glitched holy mackerel and it made me wonder, has the jigglebone glitch been around since weapons with them were first added? They at least fixed the end of the disciplinary action disappearing in jungle inferno.

[QUOTE=C. Blades;53052596]Guess who made a TF2 video instead of dealing with his crippling, cringeworthy personal issues?[/QUOTE] eh? I need some context; I don't know much about this guy.

[QUOTE=KK3568;53052832]eh? I need some context; I don't know much about this guy.[/QUOTE] I don't know either, but I don't want context. it's quite clearly some sort of memelord

[QUOTE=KK3568;53052832]eh? I need some context; I don't know much about this guy.[/QUOTE] Zeno is a YouTuber who's thing is cringey/purposefully toxic meme humor because that's his audience he's cultivated over the years. He also doesn't care about the game anymore/hates valve for the wrong reasons. Tbh I don't think anyone would be as mad as they are if he was just another toxic memelord because those are a dime a dozen- he actually makes well reasoned and statistically detailed arguments in his videos [I]between[/I] the unintelligible shitting- And that's what pisses [I]me[/I] off anyway, is that if he was more mature, and didn't project his freakin' personal problems into his videos with all this toxicity, he'd actually be taken more seriously on his points (which are good), and might actually help the causes he complaints about. It's really hard to use his videos to argue points, as reddit/everyone will always focus on the dick drawings inserted every 20 seconds instead of his data or reasoning.

Some people are making a war paint you then paint yourself. [URL]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1269711475[/URL] [t]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/928172767536502014/49110AE64EE333B2E46F837A6FEDB7B1D4FE9E7A/[/t] edit: reddit [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/7qeevq/project_p41nt_paintable_war_paint/"]page[/URL]

nice concept but that's a pretty bad sample to show it off

Lime weapons :sick: