Stuff that Annoys you in TF2: MS Paint Crocket Edition - Games

[QUOTE=Oizen;48976826]The rescue ranger should cost metal to use.[/QUOTE] If an Engineer is using the Rescue Ranger on defense, that's hardly going to change much in terms of slowing down how fast he can save his sentries robotic soul, considering a good Engineer should have his dispenser in a good place. Plus, if you make the gun metal-based a-la the Widowmaker, doing anything less than making the metal cost of healing 50 metal would only be even more of a buff to it. I suppose you could make the cost more like 10 or 15 while having it also have to use ammo, but that seems a bit convoluted, imo. If anything, I'd say maybe make the clip turn from a 4 to a 3. It lets Soldiers (And Demomen I guess, I dunno I don't memorize a lot of stuff regarding him 'cause I'm no good with him) using most Rocket Launchers (And Grenade Launchers I guess) attack sentries without having their damage being totally negated for the most part, and generally slows down an Engineers healing capability. Even then under most circumstances if an Engineer is using the Rescue Ranger then it still shouldn't be that hard to take out his sentry if you have proper teamwork. The Engineer can only heal his sentry for so long before he has to reload, this slowing down his healing capabilities by quite a bit. Just have one guy shoot the sentry for a bit, then send another guy out directly afterwards and finish the job with the Rescue Ranger in its gimped state. That, or send a Spy, because it can get pretty hard to kill a spy if your only attack weapon in the Rescue Ranger (Unless you use your Pistol but I've never seen an Engi who goes Rescue Ranger/Pistol and take it seriously before).

[QUOTE=sponge7325;48977256]If an Engineer is using the Rescue Ranger on defense, that's hardly going to change much in terms of slowing down how fast he can save his sentries robotic soul, considering a good Engineer should have his dispenser in a good place. Plus, if you make the gun metal-based a-la the Widowmaker, doing anything less than making the metal cost of healing 50 metal would only be even more of a buff to it. I suppose you could make the cost more like 10 or 15 while having it also have to use ammo, but that seems a bit convoluted, imo. If anything, I'd say maybe make the clip turn from a 4 to a 3. It lets Soldiers (And Demomen I guess, I dunno I don't memorize a lot of stuff regarding him 'cause I'm no good with him) using most Rocket Launchers (And Grenade Launchers I guess) attack sentries without having their damage being totally negated for the most part, and generally slows down an Engineers healing capability. Even then under most circumstances if an Engineer is using the Rescue Ranger then it still shouldn't be that hard to take out his sentry if you have proper teamwork. The Engineer can only heal his sentry for so long before he has to reload, this slowing down his healing capabilities by quite a bit. Just have one guy shoot the sentry for a bit, then send another guy out directly afterwards and finish the job with the Rescue Ranger in its gimped state. That, or send a Spy, because it can get pretty hard to kill a spy if your only attack weapon in the Rescue Ranger (Unless you use your Pistol but I've never seen an Engi who goes Rescue Ranger/Pistol and take it seriously before).[/QUOTE] I use the pistol, it's much more useful after Wrangler nerf. Killed so many spies.

The wrangler is still pretty useful on the more open maps for shooting people trying to spam you from outside the sentry's range.

[QUOTE=sponge7325;48977256]If an Engineer is using the Rescue Ranger on defense, that's hardly going to change much in terms of slowing down how fast he can save his sentries robotic soul, considering a good Engineer should have his dispenser in a good place. Plus, if you make the gun metal-based a-la the Widowmaker, doing anything less than making the metal cost of healing 50 metal would only be even more of a buff to it. I suppose you could make the cost more like 10 or 15 while having it also have to use ammo, but that seems a bit convoluted, imo. If anything, I'd say maybe make the clip turn from a 4 to a 3. It lets Soldiers (And Demomen I guess, I dunno I don't memorize a lot of stuff regarding him 'cause I'm no good with him) using most Rocket Launchers (And Grenade Launchers I guess) attack sentries without having their damage being totally negated for the most part, and generally slows down an Engineers healing capability. Even then under most circumstances if an Engineer is using the Rescue Ranger then it still shouldn't be that hard to take out his sentry if you have proper teamwork. The Engineer can only heal his sentry for so long before he has to reload, this slowing down his healing capabilities by quite a bit. Just have one guy shoot the sentry for a bit, then send another guy out directly afterwards and finish the job with the Rescue Ranger in its gimped state. That, or send a Spy, because it can get pretty hard to kill a spy if your only attack weapon in the Rescue Ranger (Unless you use your Pistol but I've never seen an Engi who goes Rescue Ranger/Pistol and take it seriously before).[/QUOTE] It just bothers me that Engineer gets free heals to his buildings from a safe distance. Or alternatively, free heals that make the Jag even more overpowered.

[QUOTE=Oizen;48977667]It just bothers me that Engineer gets free heals to his buildings from a safe distance. Or alternatively, free heals that make the Jag even more overpowered.[/QUOTE] They're not really free since it consumes a shot and the thing only holds 4 shots in the magazine, not to mention it only heals 75 damage a shot. It all sounds powerful until you take into account it makes the engie much more dependent on his buildings since it's killing power is minimal.

[QUOTE=Anderan;48977721]They're not really free since it consumes a shot and the thing only holds 4 shots in the magazine, not to mention it only heals 75 damage a shot. It all sounds powerful until you take into account it makes the engie much more dependent on his buildings since it's killing power is minimal.[/QUOTE] Until he decides to actually run up to you and get a "random" crit against you with his wrench. [editline]25th October 2015[/editline] The fucking Half-Zatoichi. Whoever uses it needs to have a rusty hook shoved up their ass and hung from the fucking ceiling with weights tied around their neck and have one added for every unearned crit they've gotten. This fucking bullshit ni.....demo knight weapon has pissed me off so fucking much it might very well be the reason I quit this fucking game out right. "Oh just go natascha heavy!" Yeah, when the dumb fuck with a ping of 300 finally registers I'm shooting his taiwanese ass, I've already been decapitated by his 2nd-3rd crit swing in a fucking row. You know what, fucks that don't know how to use the server browser need to suffer the same fate as these pricks. Don't use the server browser? Fuck you, die horribly. And if anyone bitches at me about how there are no servers in their area, its your fucking fault, not mine. I didn't kill the community server market. Sorry for the rant, but god fucking christ the half zat needs to be either rebalanced or just flat out fucking removed.

[QUOTE=Dat Lobo;48977952]Until he decides to actually run up to you and get a "random" crit against you with his wrench. [editline]25th October 2015[/editline] The fucking Half-Zatoichi. Whoever uses it needs to have a rusty hook shoved up their ass and hung from the fucking ceiling with weights tied around their neck and have one added for every unearned crit they've gotten. This fucking bullshit ni.....demo knight weapon has pissed me off so fucking much it might very well be the reason I quit this fucking game out right. "Oh just go natascha heavy!" Yeah, when the dumb fuck with a ping of 300 finally registers I'm shooting his taiwanese ass, I've already been decapitated by his 2nd-3rd crit swing in a fucking row. You know what, fucks that don't know how to use the server browser need to suffer the same fate as these pricks. Don't use the server browser? Fuck you, die horribly. And if anyone bitches at me about how there are no servers in their area, its your fucking fault, not mine. I didn't kill the community server market. Sorry for the rant, but god fucking christ the half zat needs to be either rebalanced or just flat out fucking removed.[/QUOTE] You shouldn't get quite so murderously angry at a video game, it's not good for you.

[QUOTE=Oizen;48976826]The rescue ranger should cost metal to use.[/QUOTE] Rescue ranger should had been Engineer stock and shotgun would be a new weapon stolen from the 3 other classes using it introduced in a recent Valve update and pictured as "the best self-defense you can get when your sentry is dead". Seriously tho, that would have been actually fun to see.

[QUOTE=Trekintosh;48978098]You shouldn't get quite so murderously angry at a video game, it's not good for you.[/QUOTE] And the demo knight sub class shouldn't have existed in the first place, your point? Oh yes, lets give a class that negates 2 out of the 3 damage types in the game for the most part, insta-kills most classes with just the smallest of half inch charges, or as i like to call them, screaming retard steps, and on top of it all, lets give them a weapon that instantly heals all damage to them because they just happened to have it out and swung it. Why the fuck they didn't balance during gun mettle, my only guess is that someone on the dev team jerks off to demorai fanfiction and fought adamantly against balancing it. Either that or the dev team at valve haven't actually fucking played TF2 in years (this ones the most likely one) and not seen the proliferation of demo knights. Yeah, give heavy a damage reduction of 20% on miniguns that either do little damage, or make you a fucking sniper/spy buffet. And so what if you get a damage reduction, the 2nd pipe out of their fucking grenade launchers always fucking crits, so you're still fucked no matter what. I watched one brain dead retard fire at a window fresh out of spawn, didn't earn any of that damage shit you're supposed to do get more crits than normal, and out of the 8 pipes he fired at that window, 5 of them were crit. I can quite literally stand at a dispenser and fire for 10 minutes straight as a heavy, and not get a fucking crit. Or any weapon, for that matter. I might get a crit one a weapon....4-5 times a day. Ask people who play with me a lot, like Anderan. He'll pocket me sometimes when shit actually needs to get done, and he can attest that I rarely fire as many crits as these brain dead retards who've just walked out of spawn, fired a weapon once, and get instant crits. The entire random crit system is broken as fuck and needs to be removed in my opinion. It doesn't make the game fun, it kills it.

I can agree with you that the Half-Zatoichi's crits and the short charge crits are dumb, but Jesus Christ, calm down. We don't need to go through this a second time.

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I always felt numb in the brain after playing Byre, mostly due to trying to play Scout, only to be met with a critical rocket from the Soldier who just joined the damn game. Bonus points if a mini-sentry just got plopped down beside me.

[QUOTE=BitingBread;48979242]I always felt numb in the brain after playing Byre, mostly due to trying to play Scout, only to be met with a critical rocket from the Soldier who just joined the damn game. Bonus points if a mini-sentry just got plopped down beside me.[/QUOTE] I saw why everyone hated arena after playing some rounds on byre. I still have no fucking clue why they have randumb crits enabled, and the forced to spectate mechanic is pretty dumb. It's no fun to play when like you said, a random ass fucking crocket comes out and destroys you.

As a Scout who likes to use the Fan of war, everytime I mark an enemy, die, and await the delayed assist yet I get none makes me slightly depressed.

[QUOTE=Anderan;48977721]They're not really free since it consumes a shot and the thing only holds 4 shots in the magazine, not to mention it only heals 75 damage a shot. It all sounds powerful until you take into account it makes the engie much more dependent on his buildings since it's killing power is minimal.[/QUOTE] One bullet of your primary is a lot less detrimental than metal to engineer. Its practically free. [QUOTE=Melted Bu11et;48979322]I saw why everyone hated arena after playing some rounds on byre. I still have no fucking clue why they have randumb crits enabled, and the forced to spectate mechanic is pretty dumb. It's no fun to play when like you said, a random ass fucking crocket comes out and destroys you.[/QUOTE] stock arena mode is pointlessly terrible. I've seen custom servers do it a lot better, without the stupid wait times as well

I was wondering why arena was so abandoned until I played it on a valve server. The wait sucks, and there's nothing stopping two pacifists from making everyone wait forever. Who cares if a round is 7v8, let people play.

[QUOTE=Enterim;48980081]I was wondering why arena was so abandoned until I played it on a valve server. The wait sucks, and there's nothing stopping two pacifists from making everyone wait forever. Who cares if a round is 7v8, let people play.[/QUOTE] Arena really needs A round timer If people are still alive after the time hits 0, STALEMATE!

The control point exists to prevent stalemates. But the fact that it makes you vulnerable combined with the unspoken rule of "capping = bad" makes it so nobody really wants to. On a related subject I hate how the arena maps are some of the prettiest ones but they're barely ever played

i vote hitscan weapons be renamed into their more accurate name point and click weapons

[QUOTE=TheEyes;48981393]i vote hitscan weapons be renamed into their more accurate name point and click weapons[/QUOTE] so? this only really applies to the sniper rifle anyways, and even with them there's a lot of tracking and such involved

[QUOTE=Ona;48971478]And no bloody wonder given how rare Valve made them. This grading system is so fucking stupid I swear.[/QUOTE] the burstchester is still 16 euros, and its not even that good even the pyro pool party taunt is cheaper if the next crate still has this tier system, I'm done and selling off all my tf2 items.

So I opened up TF2 because I haven't played it in a while and I see that the Invasion update has been almost completely put behind a paywall, because [I]you have to pay to get the fucking crate drops[/I] This kind of money-whoring, wallet-bleeding, anti-consumer bullshit is just getting absurd

Heh. Getting.

[QUOTE=Oizen;48979873]One bullet of your primary is a lot less detrimental than metal to engineer. Its practically free. [/QUOTE] It might be "free" but you only have 4 shots before you need to reload, if it used metal engies would be able to tank even better because it would basically become the widowmaker and let you fire without reloading. Frankly that would be even more powerful because now at least you can take advantage of the engie having to reload.

[QUOTE=ElusiveBadger;48983587]So I opened up TF2 because I haven't played it in a while and I see that the Invasion update has been almost completely put behind a paywall, because [I]you have to pay to get the fucking crate drops[/I] This kind of money-whoring, wallet-bleeding, anti-consumer bullshit is just getting absurd[/QUOTE] Have you played the invasion maps? They're very fun (except ctf_2fort_invasion, unless you like 2fort, but it's at least very pretty). They're also free and constitute the main part of the update. There's nothing in the crates but cosmetics and weapon skins—shit you can trade for if you want it. There's no real content you're being denied for not paying.

[QUOTE=Enterim;48984157]Have you played the invasion maps? They're very fun (except ctf_2fort_invasion, unless you like 2fort, but it's at least very pretty). They're also free and constitute the main part of the update. There's nothing in the crates but cosmetics and weapon skins—shit you can trade for if you want it. There's no real content you're being denied for not paying.[/QUOTE] This doesn't make charging for crates okay. After all, the invasion pass is essentially "Want to pay money for a tiny chance to get the item you want from this crate? Better pay us some [i]money[/i] first!"

When it comes to Arena, I actually like it [i]more[/i] after playing Byre than before. I might've just been unlucky with the community servers I've tried out arena on, but my memories involved fun combinations like getting kicked for even pretending to cap the point to lure the last enemy out, while a CnD spy or the two last guys that decide to Conga around the entire map don't get kicked at all. First blood crits are silly, both because they can straight up wipe a team (especially on Byre, as if a demo capping one point gets them he can walk like 5 steps and lob sticks onto the other point, more or less) At least people don't kick you for capping on Valve servers, and Byre is pretty small. Most rounds are over in like 45 seconds at most in my experience.

Random blind spam grenade crit on Byre explodes half the entire team as we're coming up the crest of the hill right outside spawn. Grrr.

[QUOTE=Jesp;48984654]When it comes to Arena, I actually like it [i]more[/i] after playing Byre than before. I might've just been unlucky with the community servers I've tried out arena on, but my memories involved fun combinations like getting kicked for even pretending to cap the point to lure the last enemy out, while a CnD spy or the two last guys that decide to Conga around the entire map don't get kicked at all. First blood crits are silly, both because they can straight up wipe a team (especially on Byre, as if a demo capping one point gets them he can walk like 5 steps and lob sticks onto the other point, more or less) At least people don't kick you for capping on Valve servers, and Byre is pretty small. Most rounds are over in like 45 seconds at most in my experience.[/QUOTE] I never understood why first blood crits are even a thing. "Hey this team got the first kill, they clearly deserve a huge advantage because of it."

the whole philosophy behind arena is to reward those who take the risk and punish those who make the mistake, all of it to make rounds last as little as posible. there is a reason why scout gets two achievements for said kill and the following crit. unfortunately, most players will simply rush towards the enemy team and get insta-killed, making the whole point of co-op effort moot.