ehs a soldier so eh nedses a p90 and double tap liek caall of duty 4!
[QUOTE=yuki;16884401]Shotguns are innovative.[/QUOTE]
What.
[QUOTE=yuki;16884401]Who said I want realistic boring weapons? I was talking about the aesthetic look of the gun, if it was to be a machinegun.[/QUOTE]
It would still be a boring gun that shoots bullets. A hitscan weapon.
Now, if it has some particular effect, why not. Slowdown would not be fitting though, since Natascha already has that.
TF2 = unique
Machinegun = not unique
I hope this clears it up.
[QUOTE=_Kilburn;16883996]NO.
Every secondary weapon has been really innovative and different from the original one. Soldier does NOT need a machine gun. Any coder with average coding skills would know that [i]weapons that shoot bullets[/i] are the most boring ones to code (I mean, wow, you have a weapon base and all you need is modify the ammo, clip size, spread and firing rate). And they are also horribly boring in game.
Sorry for sharing such subjective opinions, but it just makes me rage whenever people whine about a game not having their favourite rifle or machine gun. Especially when that game is meant to be completely unrealistic.[/QUOTE]
Well then, if another bullet-based weapon wouldn't fit Soldier best, what would?
Use your creativity. Valve always has a way of surprising us, like huntsman.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff Joe;16884460]Well then, if another bullet-based weapon wouldn't fit Soldier best, what would?[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiD-2sWNDiU[/media]
RPG? (with slow response so it's balanced)
[QUOTE=Hokan;16884477]Use your creativity. Valve always has a way of surprising us, like huntsman.[/QUOTE]
A bow is not unique
[QUOTE=doommarine23;16884492]A bow is not unique[/QUOTE]
A bow being used in 60s 70s fighting between companies full of people using guns? Unique.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;16884492]A bow is not unique[/QUOTE]
Uh yeah it is. In a game where everyone else is using guns, a bow kinda stands out.
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;16884480][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiD-2sWNDiU[/media][/QUOTE]
That's more like it.
[QUOTE=Hokan;16884538]A bow being used in 60s 70s fighting between companies full of people using guns? Unique.[/QUOTE]
But a bow is not unique nor is it's function.
Alright, great I can pin people, I can go and light them on fire too.
That's really something unique right? Because flame throwers don't light em on fire.
Even than, it doesn't have to be "unique" it should either give another style of play or compliment their current play style.
I mean, I guess it is odd to use a bow in a 60s-70s gun fight but yeah
Never has another game of a similar design (team play, "modern") had a bow that functions in a way like the huntsman.
guys his new melee should be a cigarette (if its wrong dont tell me) that you throw at people or hit them with that sets'em on fire!
The primary rifle could be like the snipers smg but much stronger...
For those who misse rwaket lawn chair jumping greade launcher?
I would like to see frag nades for all....
(The primary is also the secondary)
or
A demoman grenade laucher but with the pipebomb launchers charge capability (primary)
Auto-shotty (secondary)
melee MAGGOTS!
jk
maybe a combat knife
or his hat!
NEWKES
i would like the update to allow any class to pickup other's weapons
(i.e a pyro kills a scout and takes his FaN)
But nothing HUGE like
a scout picks up a minigun..
no...
[QUOTE=_Kilburn;16884435]
It would still be a boring gun that shoots bullets. A hitscan weapon.
Now, if it has some particular effect, why not. Slowdown would not be fitting though, since Natascha already has that.[/QUOTE]
I agree on that another automatic hitscan weapon would be a bit boring, so it would need tactical usage (like you said, slowdown), unless it were his sidearm.
[QUOTE=Hokan;16884447]TF2 = unique
Machinegun = not unique[/QUOTE]
Shotguns are unique hurr. Nice thinking there.
[QUOTE=Sgt.Specopps117;16884633]guys his new melee should be a cigarette (if its wrong dont tell me) that you throw at people or hit them with that sets'em on fire!
The primary rifle could be like the snipers smg but much stronger...
For those who misse rwaket lawn chair jumping greade launcher?
I would like to see frag nades for all....
(The primary is also the secondary)
or
A demoman grenade laucher but with the pipebomb launchers charge capability (primary)
Auto-shotty (secondary)
melee MAGGOTS!
jk
maybe a combat knife
or his hat![/QUOTE]
When he hits enemies with the maggots, the maggots EXPLODE!
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;16884480][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiD-2sWNDiU[/media][/QUOTE]
Is that the.... Gravity Gun?
If Valve were to replace the Rocket Launcher with a rifle, I would suggest throwable Grenades for the Soldier... But that would incur the wrath of "THATS NOT THE SOLDIER THATS THE DEMOMAN" people or the "GRENADES RUINED TFC" morons. [b]Even though I've only mentioned the idea for the SOLDIER[/b].
[QUOTE=yuki;16884636]I agree on that another automatic hitscan weapon would be a bit boring, so it would need tactical usage (like you said, slowdown), unless it were his sidearm.
Shotguns are unique hurr. Nice thinking there.[/QUOTE]
No they aren't unique, but they work, and there isn't really much else to put there, except the super unique pistol. Machineguns are for CoD and Heavies.
He will get the same weapons as the Berserker in Pvk
The reason why valve gave everyone shotguns instead of machine guns is because shotguns fit TF2 combat a lot better: close ranges, short bursts of damage, long reload times and inaccuracy. They specifically said that they didn't give everyone all automatic weapons because 2 people spraying bullets at eachother is really boring.
Minigun doesnt count cause its super inaccurate and deals a shitload of damage, and SMG deals piss for damage and is on the 1 class that actually requires you to be able to aim so it fits.
[QUOTE=Hokan;16884665]No they aren't unique
Machineguns are for CoD and Heavies.[/QUOTE]
Stop being so stupid. You've already disagreed with your own quote, and the second part here doesn't make any sense. You're not contributing to the discussion, and all of your replies here can be summarized as "NOOOOOOO I DON WANT MACHINGEUN BAAAWW UR GAY THOSE R FOR COUNTER STRIEK".
Now, back on-topic: An alternative to a fully-automatic machinegun, would be something burst-fire, or have the machinegun do very little damage to buildables, average damage to players, but eat up ammo quickly (emphasizing the spray-n-pray aspect, however the minigun does already dominate this zone). I can't think of an adequate replacement for the rocket launcher.
or how about a mouth cannon cause thats way cooler than some sissy rifle
If Machineguns didn't work, the Pistol wouldn't be fully automatic now.
It's basically a machine pistol.
The SMG also would not exist
[QUOTE=LoserMan255;16881091]he getz tommygun and rif0l with scoep, so he can be snpoiner, but with moer halce
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also viking weapons[/QUOTE]
I totally think this is serious.
Not a joke at all.
Nope.
I don't even know what a joke is.
The grenades he has. (the ones on his chest)
What about a grappling hook? He can use it to get in close and use his secondary or melee weapon to kill them. He keeps and gains maneuverability but loses his explosive power.
A canteen.
Riot Shield?:confused:
I, for one, would like to see a Fliegerfaust.
It'd have faster reload, faster rate of fire, bigger clip, but less damage and rocket jumps wouldn't work too well.
It could also have a secondary fire, where it launches like, 4 rockets at once, but it'd be inaccurate.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Luftfaust.JPG/200px-Luftfaust.JPG[/img]
I hope he gets an big hammer instead of a shovel.
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