Team Fortress 2 Classic V2 - Deathmatch mode when? - Games

i think a revamped VSH would be sick. I just think the entire mod itself needs more refining before jumping into big new projects like that.

[QUOTE=GoldenBalls;47560149]I never thought I'd say this given how the TF2 universe works and presents itself. But while I enjoy the comics, when it comes to official (3D) TF2, I find Saxton Hale and his antics [I]too[/I] crazy/cartoony for actual gameplay. I honestly can't see it being implemented in a way that seems as Valve-esque as Badger's Espionage concept art and Spark/Badger's Civilian ideas and designs. It works fine as a silly novelty mod, but to me seems too much for something official and doesn't really carry much weight after a few rounds. It's also very one sided, leaving a large waiting list of 23 people wanting to play the part of Saxton.[/QUOTE] At that point, you'd essentially have to make a Juggernaut mode tailored for TF2 where hands get passed off on the fly. It also makes it more competitive, and I think that's where the arena mode comes in. I had an old idea years ago where it would be a hybrid of oddball and juggernaut modes by carrying an Australium Idol that grants the holder a TOTALLY RIPPED BOD and you just use the Idol as a club. Getting someone to drop it would be either killing them or probably stunning them somehow. One or the other. They'd also obviously get extra health, but not TOO much.

[QUOTE=Dr. Kyuros;47559225]Big Ol' Nade Post[/QUOTE] Medic heal grenade sounds like an obvious thing to have but isn't AoE healing kinda the Amputator's thing? Also, Soldier frag grenade.... How could that be made so that could be more useful the rocket launcher in certain situations?

[QUOTE=Lazerlatte;47560228]Medic heal grenade sounds like an obvious thing to have but isn't AoE healing kinda the Amputator's thing? Also, Soldier frag grenade.... How could that be made so that could be more useful the rocket launcher in certain situations?[/QUOTE] We don't have the amputator anyways. As for the Soldier nades, a quick explosive while your launcher's clip is empty can be very helpful.

[QUOTE=SOKMAN;47560065]In what _charon said about custom classes on a serverside basis, and also about how putting VSH into TF2C would kind of go against the grain of sticking to the original philosophies and design goals of TF2, I'll say this. The mod isn't only trying to be what I said above, but, a general community version of TF2. Honestly, with this, working usermade mods or things can be done far more efficiently and done with a lot more polish because the game can be directly worked on and changed to accommodate for the needs of said modifications. We shouldn't shut down the notions or ideas of things people may want, but on the other hand, they should be also put on the backburner until the whole thing is in a stable, usable, more finished state when people can start diverting attention to those things. And yeah, even hats could be a thing, but on a serverside plugin-based thing. 4Chan Party Van used to have the custom hat Sorucemod plugin, why not let people use it in here too if they want? Honestly I like the hats and misc because of customization and identity for your own character, but it's the mannconomy that really did it in for TF2 alongside the totally unfitting items being thrown in. Other than that, hats are cool. The unlock systems and trying to legitimately work it into the game isn't so much.[/QUOTE] you could just do saxton hale :/ and maybe the other people in the comics like the one other girl (forgot her name) and their "enemy" who would probably use a super powered smg

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;47559610]I've tweaked the class portraits based on the criticisms of you all, and I think it's a great improvement. [B]AFTER[/B] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/XYDkxoZ.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/fNwEnHd.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/fu8tQbL.jpg[/IMG_thumb] So thanks for the criticisms everyone. If anyone of you got more criticisms, then please tell them, as I really want to come close to perfection with these.[/QUOTE] It looks good. You said you had attempted a YLW one, can you show it? Also what colour scheme did you use for it?

Alright, just downloaded the pistol animations from the Trello to see it myself, they look [B]really[/B] good! [I]...Except there is a little error on the animation right in the ending of the reloading for the Scout.[/I] When he finishes realoading, the weapons subtly goes a little up when going to the idle animation, that can be seen on the video for it as well.

I feel like the forums need a "recent posts" activity log. I've seen it implemented on a different phpBB forum.

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;47559610]I've tweaked the class portraits based on the criticisms of you all, and I think it's a great improvement. [B]BEFORE[/B] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ylAKsFL.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/lS2pkMP.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/1kCfNgN.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [B]AFTER[/B] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/XYDkxoZ.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/fNwEnHd.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/fu8tQbL.jpg[/IMG_thumb] So thanks for the criticisms everyone. If anyone of you got more criticisms, then please tell them, as I really want to come close to perfection with these.[/QUOTE] I feel like ylw's hat is too contrasting to red and blu's.

[QUOTE=SamMaher;47561437]I feel like ylw's hat is too contrasting to red and blu's.[/QUOTE] although there is no yellow engineer in that comparison?

[QUOTE=ZZMthesurand;47561588]although there is no yellow engineer in that comparison?[/QUOTE] Yeah I think he means green.

[QUOTE=ZZMthesurand;47561588]although there is no yellow engineer in that comparison?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Hogie bear;47561600]Yeah I think he means green.[/QUOTE] Lol god yes I did. [editline]20th April 2015[/editline] That one agree I got tho

[QUOTE=Cpt. Cakes;47557923]Someone needs to just ban RubberFruitFace from playing this, he already abused the Valve only command thing and now this?[/QUOTE] rubberfruit hacker man

[QUOTE=Dr. Kyuros;47559225] ..... Conc Jumping for Scout .... Napalm jumping for Pyro.... Grenades of any kind in TF2C... [/QUOTE] Please God no,not again! Anything but that!

The Sniper should have a sort of mini stun granade that can travel a lot of distance and makes those who get damaged easier to kill by your teammates.

It's abit weird that the YLW Engie's shirt and helmet are the exact same colour.

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;47562436]I've tweaked GRN again, and I'll post YLW with the gang, but be aware, it looks like he's in colorblind mode or just got pissed over by Sniper. [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/XYDkxoZ.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/fNwEnHd.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/fbhgZuu.jpg[/IMG_thumb] [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/CpShyXz.jpg[/IMG_thumb] I use the test color pallet B for them all, that was released a few pages ago. [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/vUk6GeE.png[/IMG_thumb] So yeah, I'm really pleased on how RED and BLU turned out, but not really with GRN and YLW, simply because their colors still look a bit off.[/QUOTE] I decided to tweak palette B a bit. Dunno, but it may be more helpful than B. Heps balance out the four teams. [t]http://i.imgur.com/UIQpF5y.png[/t] [editline]21st April 2015[/editline] Also theorizes on the colours for the maps/bases.

somebody should make another [URL="http://www.teamfortress.com/artwork.php"]do-it-your-damn-self kit[/URL] but for tf2c

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;47562436]I've tweaked GRN again, and I'll post YLW with the gang, but be aware, it looks like he's in colorblind mode or just got pissed over by Sniper. *engies* I use the test color pallet B for them all, that was released a few pages ago. [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/vUk6GeE.png[/IMG_thumb] So yeah, I'm really pleased on how RED and BLU turned out, but not really with GRN and YLW, simply because their colors still look a bit off.[/QUOTE] Personally I do a better job matching colors by eye, which is great of me but problematic when it comes to me trying to help out with stuff like this. That said, I don't know how useful it is, but I did some quick edits [t]http://i.imgur.com/XYDkxoZ.jpg[/t][t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/BlueEngyEdit.jpg[/t][t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/GreenEngyEdit.jpg[/t][t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/YellowEngyEdit.jpg[/t] generally regarding yellow i think the primary color needs to be more mustard and the darker shades shift more towards a warm tone, while the "cream spirit" parts are paler and shift towards the other direction. for green the primary ought to be warmer and the darker shades colder, much like wiht blue shifting towards cyan on the brighter tones and navy blue on the darke ones. I need to get back into working on that TIP stuff so i can do the color corrections i was supposed to do ages ago...

What if... [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/58tn2e952x5vedd/tf24waycolorsgray.png[/t] [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xr7a3nyw23whg2b/grayengy.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Pako;47562666]What if... [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xr7a3nyw23whg2b/grayengy.png[/t][/QUOTE] Grey is used a lot in neutral areas, so it could cause problems there as well. Plus purists will insist that the team be YLW too.

[QUOTE=Pie_Tony;47562736]Grey is used a lot in neutral areas, so it could cause problems there as well. Plus purists will insist that the team be YLW too.[/QUOTE] Purists? You mean people with common sense. It's like alright you've got this yellow themed team NOPE GRAY. You want yellow? Here's a yellow hat. We already have Gray Mann.

All these issues regarding yellow and their pallette makes me think we should consider having more [b]3-team[/b] stuff in mind. It's only been discussed a little bit yet, but anything that works for 4 teams should work just as well, if not better with 3, only one team more than usual to think about.

[QUOTE=_charon;47559929]So what if we made it into something more refined? Rework it into something a little more than an asymmetric arena mode, though I'm not sure how. More interesting abilities with clearer controls, less hacky balancing methods like the melee and taunt crits, actual first person viewmodels, etc... Could be pretty cool. Which reminds me of something I had meant to ask about; would it possible to set it up so that a server can define a custom class? Would be cool to give server owners a way to set something like that up themselves, even if there's a very good chance that half the servers will have an admin-only Princess Molestia or whatever class added. [sp]also i'm aware i should probably stop saying we since i'm not a dev, let me live the dream damnit[/sp][/QUOTE] That would be great! :D [sp] My custom Escort gamemode, you'll soon have your glory! [/sp]

To be honest I'm not sure why purple wasn't used instead of yellow for the 4th team. Contrasts with the other colors well enough, especially the Cream Spirit. Was there a specific reason for that?

[QUOTE=Bynine;47562905]To be honest I'm not sure why purple wasn't used instead of yellow for the 4th team. Contrasts with the other colors well enough, especially the Cream Spirit. Was there a specific reason for that?[/QUOTE] It matches up with TFC's teams. Plus, purple is already the color for the Administration team.

[QUOTE=Bynine;47562905]To be honest I'm not sure why purple wasn't used instead of yellow for the 4th team. Contrasts with the other colors well enough, especially the Cream Spirit. Was there a specific reason for that?[/QUOTE] disregarding yellow being used as a compliment to the other teams, yellow green and red are about the most contrast you can get out of 4 colors. -snip- Honestly could get away with it but we'd probably want to shift all blue textures towards a turquoise/cyan shade for there to be enough contrast. made a quick mockup of a palette like that just to try: [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/NonYellowContrasts.jpg[/img] And when it comes to the administrator being purple, keep in mind thats in a world where there are only 2 opposing teams, in this universe she should probably be color coded in gray if it was to make sense

[QUOTE=Bynine;47562905]To be honest I'm not sure why purple wasn't used instead of yellow for the 4th team. Contrasts with the other colors well enough, especially the Cream Spirit. Was there a specific reason for that?[/QUOTE] Because the primary colors of light is Red, Blue, Green while the primary colors of colors are Red, Blue and Yellow.

Honestly, after editing the turquoise into BLU-ish colors i kinda have to say there's a point to considering purple in place of yellow, it does contrast pretty well [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39556064/NonYellowContrasts2.jpg[/img] The only issues I see with it is firstly its 'feminine' associations, but going for a royal sort of theme could brush that off fairly easily, and secondly purple often being considered an odd color, as apposed to yellow And regarding what i said about it possibly confusing players about which team people are on it should do so less than yellow seeing how every team has some amount of yellow on them, forcing players to only react when a certain amount of yellow shows up, and to think twice when catching a glimpse of yellow on a non YLW team member

[QUOTE=iAmaNewb;47563058]Because the primary colors of light is Red, Blue, Green while the primary colors of colors are Red, Blue and Yellow.[/QUOTE] Ergo the Administrator should be colored Sh*t Brown.