TF2 General Chat and Speculation Station: Whiteboard Blues - Games

Did they fixed the dead ringer reload glitch?

[QUOTE=Petroklos;52778692]Problem is, this would make him extremely weaker as well. This would also ruin Sniper duels.[/QUOTE] Oh no not sniper duels. The stuff about maps not being well designed is something I'm getting a little sick of hearing, too. I mean yeah, some maps would be better with shorter sight-lines, but a sniper with good aim can stomp even from bad positions. The class is the larger problem. Being able to one-shot kill from any distance (heck, being able to reliably do damage at any distance) is a tremendous advantage no other class has, and sniper is supposed to pay for it with tunnel-vision and near-motionlessness. They need to bring this back by nerfing quickscopes. If that makes sniper weaker, so be it.

[QUOTE=DrCactus;52778179]I think the huntsman could use a small re-work. Make it so you have to have full charge to get a headshot, but to compensate increase the charge rate by like 25%, so you have to actually commit to a shot to get a headshot, and prevent people from just blindly firing and getting headshots they didn't actually try to get.[/QUOTE] I think it could use a small re-work too. In hit detection department.

well for starters it needs to not be able to draw in mid-air, like before.

[QUOTE=LegendaryR'QA;52777822]words[/QUOTE] Movement speed change is a bad idea since rocketjump speed and distance are based on it. Ever played scout with a rocketlauncer on randomizer? If you're going to reduce rocketjump damage you should increase base resistance to his own rockets (currently 40%) rather then do it through an unlock.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;52779141]well for starters it needs to not be able to draw in mid-air, like before.[/QUOTE] This makes absolutely no sense to me. You can scope in with a sniper rifle in air but sniper is unable to draw a string back if his feet aren't on the ground. Who thought neither of these were good ideas?

[QUOTE=tekt;52779180]This makes absolutely no sense to me. You can scope in with a sniper rifle in air but[/QUOTE] you can only retain your scope in mid-air if you got knocked up by an attack or you are moving off a ledge. You can't do it if you jump-rev ala heavy. It was a nice balancer for huntsman aswell, forcing you to stay anchored to the ground for all shots. It was a bad descision to remove this. as for "realism", balance is more important.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;52779141]well for starters it needs to not be able to draw in mid-air, like before.[/QUOTE] why? it's already terrible

because "jump-rev" with the huntsman is dumb in CQC and has no proper player animations so you can't even tell when it's happening on the outside. it also makes spamming around a corner alot safer. it was quite clearly an intended limitation for years and only recently did "new valve" decide to remove it for who knows what reason.

What if, when the sniper scopes, there's a 0.5 second delay before he can land headshots?

[QUOTE=prizepool;52779591]What if, when the sniper scopes, there's a 0.5 second delay before he can land headshots?[/QUOTE] It already has .2" delay and it's mostly unimportant.

[QUOTE=Petroklos;52779610]It already has .2" delay and it's mostly unimportant.[/QUOTE] It's more than double the delay dude. It makes a big difference.

[QUOTE=Fraklin;52779624]It's more than double the delay dude. It makes a big difference.[/QUOTE] It already has .2" delay and [B]that specific delay that we currently have[/B] is mostly unimportant. It's also a terrible way to balance. Almost as terrible as having a weapon with high damage, big spread and delay before it can fire, have an additional time frame in which it deals less damage and has even more spread. Or as a Sniping tool with unavoidable random spread.

Can we pls not touch any classes besides pyro and spy. Unlocks nerfs/buffs are fine, but just keep them the way they are. Nerfing class base stats does not make any sense. I literally don't see anything wrong with sniper, you have to be good enough to hit the most broken hitboxes head to kill someone. If you're a bad sniper you will not do anything good with the class.

Friendlies are fucking cancer

One sniper weapon that really needs changing is the Huntsman Or the 'Fire a Arrow and hope it hits someone in the head for a instant kill'

[QUOTE=Petroklos;52779668]It already has .2" delay and [B]that specific delay that we currently have[/B] is mostly unimportant. It's also a terrible way to balance. Almost as terrible as having a weapon with high damage, big spread and delay before it can fire, have an additional time frame in which it deals less damage and has even more spread. Or as a Sniping tool with unavoidable random spread.[/QUOTE] Well, if the sniper rifle could bodyshot for the first .5 seconds of scoping, it could definitely solve the quickscoping problem from close and far ranges.

[QUOTE=Lord Exor;52774813]Please TF2 team, make my year--I need something to look forward to.[/QUOTE] There's two hat-themed games out this month you could play in TF2's stead, it'd be sort of similar

Ok, so that's 2 classes down. Now we need to dig the dirt up from seven remaining.

[QUOTE=prizepool;52779787]Well, if the sniper rifle could bodyshot for the first .5 seconds of scoping, it could definitely solve the quickscoping problem from close and far ranges.[/QUOTE] The Sniper rifle charges 100 damage in 3.3 seconds. 100dmg/3.3s=30dmg/s, so it charges 30damage per second, 15 damage per half second. It takes 1 second to begin charging, so 4.3 seconds from zoom-in, to headshot. So, we could reduce the base damage to 35 (105 on Quickshot), whilst keeping the max damage the same (150/450). To counterbalance that, we reduce the charging delay to .5 seconds. Thus, we have a Sniper rifle that deals 35/105 during the first half second, 36/108 to 49/147 during seconds .51 to .99 and from the first second onward acts exactly like the current Sniper rifle. This STILL rewards quickshot headshots, an integral part of Sniper's kit, but at the same time reigns him in significantly. It wouldn't need any new HUD elements and is not cryptic, as any player will be able to see how much damage they deal and when. In addition remove the .2" delay. If its for balancing reasons, it's a bad way to balance. If its to deter hackers, well, we know how well this has worked out. If we enforce the reduced damage on unscoped shots too, there might even be more of a reason to use SMGs. Increasing their damage output could be a decent countermeasure to crippling the class. (For the record I'm not in favor of nerfing the Sniper, nor would I be against a good solution to the "unfun" issue)

[t]https://files.catbox.moe/8k5rhy.png[/t] If Dota and even Warframe can get a place on the steam frontpage atleast give TF2 the honor this time

[QUOTE=Fluury;52779962][t]https://files.catbox.moe/8k5rhy.png[/t] If Dota and even Warframe can get a place on the steam frontpage atleast give TF2 the honor this time[/QUOTE] Maybe we get a huge banner when the mammoth update is out

[QUOTE=Doodle966;52779965]Maybe we get a huge banner when the mammoth update is out[/QUOTE] thatd be the best way to gauge interest in further tf2 development i think

Hopefully once the mammoth update drops we'll see smaller updates every 2-3 months. Valve can't just drop a huge update, attract a ton of players, then leave the game barren of updates for a year. It would be a huge waste of time.

Any hype this week?

[QUOTE=qubestf2;52780081]Any hype this week?[/QUOTE] The specifically said not the next week. Whether that means a week from the post or this week in general is beyond me, but I'm not falling for the trap either way. Hype thrusters are completely disabled.

[QUOTE=Angemon300;52780103]The specifically said not the next week. Whether that means a week from the post or this week in general is beyond me, but I'm not falling for the trap either way. Hype thrusters are completely disabled.[/QUOTE] actually they said "Not this week imminent" last week, so this week is definitely a big hype week, it's almost like valve tried as hard as they could to say next week without saying "next week" just in case something goes wrong

Toweek is the week?

Every week is the week until it is not the week. Thats how this thread works.

Made a strawpoll: [url]http://www.strawpoll.me/14150361[/url] Vote and stuff like that.