[QUOTE=The Civ;50668625]Hope B4nny gets shit on so hard after this that he never has a say in balancing again.
No respect for him after these Heavy nerfs.[/QUOTE]
If you watch the stream where he goes over the patch notes it's pretty obvious he didn't know about a lot of the rebalances. Some things I do remember him knowing about was the push for the shortstop (he says that's one of the things he saw when visiting Valve) and the changes on the quickie bomb launcher (which he said he though could make it OP). It's pretty obvious B4nny didn't tell Valve how to rebalanace stuff in this update, they probably just got his opinion on some of the rebalances (but not everything).
Edit: I believe some of the things he didn't know about was the flamethrowers causing mediguns to heal at a reduced rate and all mediguns letting you move at the rate of your heal target.
Yeah have fun guys I'm just gonna wait here forever.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/PMwDMKz.png[/t]
[b]WHY[/b]
It just keeps growing.
[editline]8th July 2016[/editline]
Alright cool after 3 hours it's done
Casual Matchmaking and no vote system. [I][B]What were they thinking?[/B][/I]
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/4ru3rc/we_have_achieved_progress_in_tv_mystery/[/url]
Someone got the TV to display something.... somehow. But apparently the achievement didn't pop.... meaning it has to specifically display something in particular.
Although I have to admit one thing, and it was that the one time I managed to get into comp. matchmaking it was actually very fun. Matchmaking was exactly what I needed in TF2.
[QUOTE=X_Sam;50672806][url]https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/4ru3rc/we_have_achieved_progress_in_tv_mystery/[/url]
Someone got the TV to display something.... somehow. But apparently the achievement didn't pop.... meaning it has to specifically display something in particular.[/QUOTE]
There are two images (possibly spoilers? I dunno if anyone else has peeked yet), [url=http://i.imgur.com/drMHeJ6.jpg]scrambled[/url] and [url=http://i.imgur.com/g6ZvczL.jpg]projection[/url]. So something didn't go right and you got the failure screen.
Quickplay is now Slowplay.
Also you can't chose the gamemode you want in the core gamemodes, you need 2 gamemodes selected min :\
Wtf,most of valve Brazilian servers are in locked
[QUOTE=gronfort;50672829]Wtf,most of valve Brazilian servers are in locked[/QUOTE]
Maybe they are moving them to matchmaking.
[QUOTE=nonhuman;50672823][img_thumb]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/147782237/pics/fuckinghell.jpg[/img_thumb]
oh hell no.[/QUOTE]
I see the great mumbling majority has started to vote.
The update is fine in my opition, besides the casual mode. That feels like a rushed last minute decision. But I'm sure they'll fix it up over time.
I just played 40 minutes of casual Powerhouse, we almost won first round but then our team mostly gave up and enemy team picked 4 medics and 3 heavys so we lost it and lost second round because our med left and 5 people were afk on respawn.
It wasn't that bad tho, but I would prefer some kind of time limit for CP maps.
[QUOTE=LZoleee;50672839]The update is fine in my opition, besides the casual mode. That feels like a rushed last minute decision. But I'm sure they'll fix it up over time.[/QUOTE]
Honestly apart from meh balance changes I like everything in concept, I'm waiting on custom huds to start working again and fixes to come before doing anything though.
As soon as they remove leaver penalties from casual and the servers stop crying I'm sure there won't be as much complaining.
I'm still pissed that apart from the jumpers there weren't any art updates / optimization changes.
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;50668654]Alright. So how is Scout strong enough to push someone like Heavy with the power of an Airblast. Things are not adding up here.[/QUOTE]
Well, he was already pushing cart twice as fast as Heavy, sooo... :v:
[QUOTE=Razi The Red;50668759][b]Shortstop[/b]: ... Was this a needed new feature? I never use it so I don't really follow.[/QUOTE]
Could be very useful in MvM. Now your money scout can push robo-medics off pockets. You need pick class less now.
[QUOTE][b]Spy[/b]: Speed boost is... notable. Curious how it'll affect his play style.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was kind of a nerf for a second, then I remembered disguises drop your speed. Dammit, spy now can pretend to be medic and scout without that 'off' feeling from slower movements. Also, medics can't run from spies anymore. Did Euro 2016 convinced Valve French can run as fast as Germans? :speechless:
[QUOTE][b]Pyro Flamthrowers[/b]: This is the most interesting change to me. I'll need to see how this feels/plays out.[/QUOTE]
Pyro still can't really fight against pocketed anything, so not that much of a change unless pocket is at big disadvantage. Might actually make things more fair.
[QUOTE][b]Quick-Fix[/b]: Seems fair to me- the rate was a bit high, but perhaps it was too far? Heals faster, but it's megaheal is always going to be at a disadvantage to the Uber and Kritz.[/QUOTE]
Fair how? Now QF has NOTHING other miniguns won't do better, hell, most of them do everything better now :dead:
[QUOTE][b]Quickiebomb Launcher[/b]: I'll need to see these changes in action to judge them, it seems a bit OP at first glance- maybe not.[/QUOTE]
It has what, 4 bomb clip now? On top of needing 2 bombs to kill most classes? From reading the log, it seems like weaker Iron Bomber now, but we'll see.
Casual players go for pyro I mean, all those w+m1. I think Pyro might have won just by numbers of players liking him.
Also, this topic might have "heavy" bias on heavy :v: Everybody wanting heavy to win.
[QUOTE=LZoleee;50672839]The update is fine in my opition, besides the casual mode. That feels like a rushed last minute decision. But I'm sure they'll fix it up over time.[/QUOTE]
I really don't think it was a rushed, last minute decision. B4nny's twitter comments from over a month ago pretty much stated changes were coming to casual TF2 play plus valve added the ability for the comp matchmaking HUD to support up to 12 players per team a month or two ago.
Damn. I never felt so bad because of tf2 in a while. Watching most of the enemy team disconnect, forcing 3-5 dudes, who just want to play and don't have abandon penalties, to play against at least 10 players is actualy pretty painful.
And the worst part: you can't even join their team and help them.
Is it just me or is quickiebomb launcher fucking broken now?
[QUOTE=JasperDx17;50672583]Hoo boy, 926 new voice lines. Sadly, not a single medic one.
[media]https://youtu.be/SBSZSexhnpY[/media]
Some of these are gold. Good luck sittin' through it though.
[/QUOTE]
31:07
I thought Sniper said "[I]ISIS[/I] !"
This game isnt fun anymore. Out of 3 casual matches I played, 3 were steamrolls because players were leaving. Comp forces me to use ridicolous fov of 54, and apparently broke cp_badlands for me (black square in the sky). The 2nd day of the update was called "heavy vs pyro". What did we get? Huo-long heater buff, natascha/BB/steak nerf and slightly changed pyro. This isnt core gameplay change. I am dissapointed with this update.
Oh, and did I mention new HUD that clutters up my screen?
Is that Grant? Sounds a bit off in some of the lines.
I was working on the new achievement with a group of people, and we managed to get it. Are we one of the first ones to get it? We got that horrible Jack hat and a little Jack badge.
[QUOTE=Dr.Scrake;50672847]Honestly apart from meh balance changes I like everything in concept, I'm waiting on custom huds to start working again and fixes to come before doing anything though.[/QUOTE]Well, I updated FrankenHUD, so that's one down. Hopefully others follow suit soon.
Everybody in the games is whining about lack of aimless pubs existing
I'm really happy about this update, finally I've been able to play the 24 man chaos of TF2 but with everybody on my team TRYING, not just sitting AFK, building sentry nests on last etc etc
The TV has been solved!
[url]http://imgur.com/a/6SSwE[/url]
Solution :[sp]Put the classes listed on the triggers in place and then shoot the plug. (Make sure they have the right team color or it wont work!)[/sp]
Credit to [url]http://steamcommunity.com/id/logicanalyzer/[/url] for figuring it out.
[QUOTE=ADSKILLER;50672938]The TV has been solved!
[url]http://imgur.com/a/6SSwE[/url]
Solution :[sp]Put the classes listed on the triggers in place and then shoot the plug. (Make sure they have the right team color or it wont work!)[/sp][/QUOTE]
Look, there's me! And my terrible trigger joke!
Jesus christ, some people here have quite literally posted "Update is shit" in 6 new ways.
Wait for the Servers to actually work + the expected bug fix update later, then fall your judgement.
I got matched onto a fucking Singapore server where everyone on my team had literally 300 ping or more. The other team was in the 80s.
What the fuck is this bullshit?
[QUOTE=Flash_Fire;50672930]Everybody in the games is whining about lack of aimless pubs existing
I'm really happy about this update, finally I've been able to play the 24 man chaos of TF2 but with everybody on my team TRYING, not just sitting AFK, building sentry nests on last etc etc[/QUOTE]
saaaaaame
finally a 24-player mode where people are actually encouraged and incentivized to actually win
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