The solemn vow is good for getting Intel
If the amputator could do the better auto-heal without being drawn it would be much more reliable
The vita-saw could have a mechanism that each successful swing would make the uber build rate 25% faster up to 100%
[QUOTE=gronfort;50653613]The solemn vow is good for getting Intel
If the amputator could do the better auto-heal without being drawn it would be much more reliable
The vita-saw could have a mechanism that each successful swing would make the uber build rate 25% faster up to 100%[/QUOTE]
The vow is ass, it used to be vaguely alright because you could know what targets were weak enough that you could kill them yourself. Plus without the lower health of the vita or the slower swing speed of the ubersaw you could deal damage more safely. It was still underpowered, but it had a niche. Now it's utter garbage, they nerfed it for the absurdly stupid reason that it was a straight upgrade to stock, even though there were two other way better melee options that were ostensibly straight upgrades to stock. But no, the balance of red text and green text on the item description was more important than the balance of the weapons, and they made the vow worse at the one thing it was good at, instead of, idk, buffing the useless stock weapon [I]that's still never used[/I].
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;50653633]The vow is ass, it used to be vaguely alright because you could know what targets were weak enough that you could kill them yourself. Plus without the lower health of the vita or the slower swing speed of the ubersaw you could deal damage more safely. It was still underpowered, but it had a niche. Now it's utter garbage, they nerfed it for the absurdly stupid reason that it was a straight upgrade to stock, even though there were two other way better melee options that were ostensibly straight upgrades to stock. But no, the balance of red text and green text on the item description was more important than the balance of the weapons, and they made the vow worse at the one thing it was good at, instead of, idk, buffing the useless stock weapon [I]that's still never used[/I].[/QUOTE]
The nerf was like 10% swing speed or something negligible. It's still an arguable straight upgrade like all of medic's other choices just less so
The thing about the Crossbow and Ubersaw is that they're both better stock weapons than actual stock, since they both correspond to the purpose of Medic's class and how he's meant to be played.
The Sandvich for Heavy is similar- why does the class with a minigun need a secondary with slower firing and less damage? It's redundant.
The unlocks shouldn't always be balanced around stock, they should be balanced around what's good for classes and the game as a whole. Crossbow, Ubersaw and Sandvich are prime examples of this.
The medic is a support class, so what about this...
-swing speed and damage reduction
-you and all your overhealed patients gets to see enemy's uber percentage and HP
[QUOTE=gronfort;50653701]The medic is a support class, so what about this...
-swing speed and damage reduction
-you and all your overhealed patients gets to see enemy's uber percentage and HP[/QUOTE]
Honestly, it'd be worse than Vita/Ubersaw even without the negative attributes.
[QUOTE=gronfort;50653613]The solemn vow is good for getting Intel
If the amputator could do the better auto-heal without being drawn it would be much more reliable
The vita-saw could have a mechanism that each successful swing would make the uber build rate 25% faster up to 100%[/QUOTE]
Eh I think the Amputator is fine. Obviously the Ubersaw is considered the de-facto Medic unlock but the Amputator works well for a passive Medic who doesn't want to risk his life trying to get an extra 25% uber.
It is supposed to have a support mechanism, like the class.that way information is given automatically without the use of chat and voice-chat in the heat of the battle
[QUOTE=Kitt Stargaze;50653570]Is it really needed though? Would it really make that big of a difference to do it like that to warrent the change?
Not to mention arcing can be beneficial to some degree as well. nice to arc of objectives in the map to kill a sentry without getting hit and all.[/QUOTE]
I'm not talking about the arc. I'm talking about the projectile deviation. Needles have this for some reason.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50653501]Since the update isn't tonight, why not discuss what needs to be buffed.
I haven't seen anyone use any primary besides the xbow for medic. While its admittedly good, I miss hearing the pew pews of blutsaugers as medic run backwards only to be cornered into a wall.
I also miss when every bonesaw was a great option. The Amputator and the Solemn Vow were direct upgrades which necessitated getting the attack speeds nerfed, but it resulted in everyone going back to the Ubersaw. And I rarely see a vitasaw these days.[/QUOTE]
I use the Blutsauger in pubs to make things more fun and interesting, and the Crossbow when playing seriously in competitive and the like. I personally think the Vita-Saw might need reworked as I think it's weird and unfair. It's pretty much banned in all leagues as it grants adv for just dying which it shouldn't do.
[QUOTE=EmilyVasquez;50653007]I seriously want that Atomizer Bat tbh. Too bad it isn't in the shop.[/QUOTE]
It will be soon enough. Welovefine/valve Store is selling them at cons for $35. I bought one myself and love it, it's made of foam and super durable.
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;50653633]The vow is ass, it used to be vaguely alright because you could know what targets were weak enough that you could kill them yourself. Plus without the lower health of the vita or the slower swing speed of the ubersaw you could deal damage more safely. It was still underpowered, but it had a niche. Now it's utter garbage, they nerfed it for the absurdly stupid reason that it was a straight upgrade to stock, even though there were two other way better melee options that were ostensibly straight upgrades to stock. But no, the balance of red text and green text on the item description was more important than the balance of the weapons, and they made the vow worse at the one thing it was good at, instead of, idk, buffing the useless stock weapon [I]that's still never used[/I].[/QUOTE]
I guess the solemn vow could be used to call out health numbers to teammates. That, for me, makes it viable in comp.
[QUOTE=Hell-met;50653765]I'm not talking about the arc. I'm talking about the projectile deviation. Needles have this for some reason.[/QUOTE]
Ah, that I can can agree with yes...
[QUOTE=housejojo06;50653808]I guess the solemn vow could be used to call out health numbers to teammates. That, for me, makes it viable in comp.[/QUOTE]
Not compared to +20% uber saved every time you spawn. Plus it's completely redundant in HL.
That talk about the Valve Store made me realise how ridiculously expensive their stuff is. Pretty much anything seems overpriced to me. I'm not sure if they're still based only in America though, may want to add shipping taxes to Europe to all that.
But that Cowboy Scout picture on the shop seems very fishy to me. Sure it's community stuff, but the Scout and his items are definitely the focus and it'd just be plain weird to not have these ingame.
[QUOTE=SLBros.;50653833]That talk about the Valve Store made me realise how ridiculously expensive their stuff is. Pretty much anything seems overpriced to me. I'm not sure if they're still based only in America though, may want to add shipping taxes to Europe to all that.
[/QUOTE]
Those pins better be the nicest pins ever because $45 for 4 classes is a bit high. Not to mention Welovefine has high shipping, I've tried ordering from them before.
so was this 260 posts of interesting information to speculate on, or just a massive pile of shitposts,
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[QUOTE=SLBros.;50653833]That talk about the Valve Store made me realise how ridiculously expensive their stuff is. Pretty much anything seems overpriced to me. I'm not sure if they're still based only in America though, may want to add shipping taxes to Europe to all that.
But that Cowboy Scout picture on the shop seems very fishy to me. Sure it's community stuff, but the Scout and his items are definitely the focus and it'd just be plain weird to not have these ingame.[/QUOTE]
Valve didn't make it so I doubt the weapons would be accepted and you can find the submission but here's a link [url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=300237906&searchtext=[/url].
Why did they remove the Bonk Tumbler?
I wanted to get one of those...
[QUOTE=Stroheim;50654046]Why did they remove the Bonk Tumbler?
I wanted to get one of those...[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.levelupstudios.com/bonk-tumbler[/url] There ya go.
[QUOTE=jellydotjar;50652664]Unrelated but the [URL="http://store.valvesoftware.com"]valve store[/URL] updated with a ton of new tf2 merch.[/QUOTE]
no more trading cards :(
[QUOTE=GuntMyFries;50653806]It will be soon enough. Welovefine/valve Store is selling them at cons for $35. I bought one myself and love it, it's made of foam and super durable.[/QUOTE]
Where's the con at :v:?
[QUOTE=EmilyVasquez;50654096]Where's the con at :v:?[/QUOTE]
I know venders had some of the older stuff at MAGFest in DC/Maryland last time I went to that, but I don't think they were WeLoveFine/Valve opperated, just a vender that just had the items in particular.
I've seen the Balloonicorn blow up at several conventions before as well being sold.
I found some Atomizer Bats for sale on this site [url]http://valve.game-legends.com/toys-und-collectibles/team-fortress/2441/baseball-bat-the-atomizer-red-bonk[/url]
[QUOTE=gronfort;50654116][url]https://mobile.twitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/750434676435673088[/url][/QUOTE]
"soon" doesn't tell us anything.
[QUOTE=Snowshoe;50654119]"soon" doesn't tell us anything.[/QUOTE]
Well the guy asked this week or soon so this can mean we wont get the update this week.
[QUOTE=Snowshoe;50654119]"soon" doesn't tell us anything.[/QUOTE]
This is a speculation thread, I'm just giving info of what we have for now, you can do whatever you want with this info.
[QUOTE=gronfort;50654130]This is a speculation thread, I'm just giving info of what we have for now, you can do whatever you want with this info.[/QUOTE]
It's not info at all to speculate on, it's literally just "soon", which we have been told for the past month.
[QUOTE=DahlCeo;50654123]Well the guy asked this week or soon so this can mean we wont get the update this week.[/QUOTE]
Oh great :suicide:
[QUOTE=DahlCeo;50654123]Well the guy asked this week or soon so this can mean we wont get the update this week.[/QUOTE]
Nah, just doesn't want to give people a date of release, so that if it gets delayed people don't whine about how he lied to them. Maybe it's not slated for this week but he's not indicating that at all in the post.
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