Thunder Mountain still lasts way too long. It's part of the reason I don't queue for Payload.
There's like a 50/50 shot I either end up in a 5-10 minute game, or a 30-45 minute game, and I don't want to make that gamble.
I enjoy how serious pubs are now. The matches are very intense, and I really have to step up my game against all the new and improved teams. Part of me misses how casual Valve servers used to be, though. I don't think I'll be able to gimmick anymore without bringing the whole team down.
Thanks to the new matchmaking system I'm having fun on TF2 again, despite still having things to improve, this update was a step to the right direction.
[QUOTE=Ace of Butts;50694576]Stopwatch mode is pretty nice, helps prevent insanely long tedious games. as much as I love the game, those kind of matches lose their novelty fast esp in casual[/QUOTE]
Stop watch mode is whats making the long tedious games for me.
I've been in Payload matches that were about 40-50 minutes long thanks to it.
Attack/Defend goes even longer than that.
5CP is already stalemate-hell. So playing it first to 3 wins just makes it take over an hour.
[QUOTE=Pako;50695148]I don't know how they did it but the Bison straight up doesn't work in tr_walkway, the beams disappear as soon as they reach the bot lane
vv Enter "sv_allow_point_servercommand always" into the console and restart the server[/QUOTE]
for some reason bison projectile dissapears on contact with a trigger brush or just won't go anywhere if you shoot from inside
(those are huge invisible boxes that have special functions, like a spawnroom and stuff)
[QUOTE=JackingApples;50695862]Thanks to the new matchmaking system I'm having fun on TF2 again, despite still having things to improve, this update was a step to the right direction.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! I've had some really fun balanced games yesterday. Players have begun to rank up so the playing field has evened out somewhat meaning no more professional freshmeat players who should be ranked a whole lot higher.
[QUOTE=Oizen;50696007]Stop watch mode is whats making the long tedious games for me.
I've been in Payload matches that were about 40-50 minutes long thanks to it.
Attack/Defend goes even longer than that.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't make sense, there's no situation where Stopwatch mode could possibly make matches [I]longer[/I]. If there were no stopwatch mode you'd play two rounds of these maps until the game timer runs out. Stopwatch mode can only end a game earlier than the game timer, not later.
5CP should definitely not be first to three in casual, though.
[QUOTE=Pako;50695148]I don't know how they did it but the Bison straight up doesn't work in tr_walkway, the beams disappear as soon as they reach the bot lane
vv Enter "sv_allow_point_servercommand always" into the console and restart the server[/QUOTE]
the bison/pomson projectile has really weird collisions ever since the update, probably a side effect of this fix
[quote]The Pomson
- Fixed an exploit with shooting through your own buildings[/quote]
you can't fire it through open spawn doors now, from either direction. i think it hits the brush entity that blocks enemy players from getting in.
it also hits the [I]bounding box[/I] of the big prop_dynamic boat in the middle of pd_watergate. the one with the health pack on it. you can't use the gun at all if you're standing close enough to it.
there are probably a million other things it hits now but i haven't really gone around searching for them yet
Remember when flamethrowers actually did damage?
[url]https://youtu.be/Ul10umf8P4w[/url]
[url]https://gfycat.com/BitterFrankHornshark[/url]
[url]https://gfycat.com/JubilantRigidCaiman[/url]
the shots also get ruined by teammates even at point-blank. it's terrible
and the huge hitboxes (arguably the only redeemable feature) is gone. you can easily duck under most shots now.
[editline]12th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=ethanciavo;50696426]Remember when flamethrowers actually did damage?
[url]https://youtu.be/Ul10umf8P4w[/url]
[url]https://gfycat.com/BitterFrankHornshark[/url]
[url]https://gfycat.com/JubilantRigidCaiman[/url][/QUOTE]
that looks like a problem with the rainblower
[QUOTE=DatHarry;50693962]to avoid hacking they should just put people without phones in to low priority or something[/QUOTE]
Please don't kick more dirt in the faces of those of us without smartphones
Is anyone else not consistently gaining XP? In some games, I'll get XP and in some games I won't, win or loss.
[QUOTE=Jichael;50696497]Is anyone else not consistently gaining XP? In some games, I'll get XP and in some games I won't, win or loss.[/QUOTE]
It depends, if you join a game in-progress or your team has too many abandons you won't get any exp from that match.
I think it's kind of stupid, but hopefully they will change those stipulations in the future.
Also, sometimes its just slow and doesn't count exp until a while after the match or until you restart the game.
I join games literally at the beginning and I still don't get xp.
Which sucks
Stopwatch mode is fine but i guess the thought of playing in maps with multiple stages is what tires me a bit.
Of course you'll finish faster if you succesfully defend 1st stage and beat it but finishing 3 stages + more 3 stages can become longer than your usual quickplay\community server game.
It's probably preference anyway.
[QUOTE=Magypsy;50695819]I enjoy how serious pubs are now. The matches are very intense, and I really have to step up my game against all the new and improved teams. Part of me misses how casual Valve servers used to be, though. I don't think I'll be able to gimmick anymore without bringing the whole team down.[/QUOTE]
You were [b]never[/b] able to gimmick without bringing the whole team down.
[editline]12th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sweater;50696650]Stopwatch mode is fine but i guess the thought of playing in maps with multiple stages is what tires me a bit.
Of course you'll finish faster if you succesfully defend 1st stage and beat it but finishing 3 stages + more 3 stages can become longer than your usual quickplay\community server game.
It's probably preference anyway.[/QUOTE]
How else would you decide a victor, though?
[QUOTE=geel9;50696769]How else would you decide a victor, though?[/QUOTE]
Multi-stage maps were never built with competition in mind, they were built for what was considered casual at the time of their creation: a place for people to [i]exist[/i] in while having some cohesive objective.
There's a reason why competitive attack/defense maps were condensed into a singular stage. It's all about time efficiency.
A compromise in favor of being mindful of player time would be to only play a single stage of the map, but that has some implications that can turn out sloppy if not handled just right.
[QUOTE=Stroheim;50696611]I join games literally at the beginning and I still don't get xp.
Which sucks[/QUOTE]
I assume it's bugged at the moment.
It seems to just arbitrarily decide whether you deserve XP or not at this point.
So when are we getting map selection? I'm trying to do the achievement on Brickyard, but not only is it impossible without people willing to help, you have to end up on the right map. It's very annoying.
Another issue that is extremely annoying, every time I leave a server after the end of a game, the game still thinks I'm in the game and won't let me join another, forcing a reboot:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/wA7CXCo.jpg[/t]
Neat, Eric just responded to the unusual hatless hats not having effects telling me they're working on getting them working.
Feels good to have contributed, even if it's not the biggest thing to have to be fixed... =]
I have a feeling that this war update will end this Thursday, the Soldier vs Demo war lasted one week.
[QUOTE=Slip Nip;50697308]I have a feeling that this war update will end this Thursday, the Soldier vs Demo war lasted one week.[/QUOTE]
It'd be disappointing if it ended before they iron out all the bugs with the new matchmaking system. I'm sure a lot of people aren't playing on Valve servers because of that, and it would be a shame if people missed out on making a difference.
Do you guys remember when they said the next part of the comic would be out quicker :unimpressed:
[editline]12th July 2016[/editline]
4 to 5's wait was 333 days
[editline]12th July 2016[/editline]
we are at 316 days
[QUOTE=HiddenShadow;50697589]Do you guys remember when they said the next part of the comic would be out quicker :unimpressed:
[editline]12th July 2016[/editline]
4 to 5's wait was 333 days
[editline]12th July 2016[/editline]
we are at 316 days[/QUOTE]
Maybe Valve aims to make this one 334.
[QUOTE=TwoYearLurker;50694459]it's not all that complicated, though
both teams get a turn to attack and defend, and whichever team does a better job overall (by capturing more points on offense, and holding more points on defense) wins the match[/QUOTE]
That's EXACTLY the way it operates right now, except the game immediately ends if the second team exceeds the first team's performance.
[QUOTE=HiddenShadow;50697589]Do you guys remember when they said the next part of the comic would be out quicker :unimpressed:
[editline]12th July 2016[/editline]
4 to 5's wait was 333 days
[editline]12th July 2016[/editline]
we are at 316 days[/QUOTE]
332. One day less still counts as quicker!
Does anyone know why valve servers are in maintenance , is it realeted to those backend issues post-launch that they mentioned in the blog post ?
[QUOTE=SLBros.;50697064]So when are we getting map selection? I'm trying to do the achievement on Brickyard, but not only is it impossible without people willing to help, you have to end up on the right map. It's very annoying.
Another issue that is extremely annoying, every time I leave a server after the end of a game, the game still thinks I'm in the game and won't let me join another, forcing a reboot:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/wA7CXCo.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Here's a server for Brickyard (got the achievement in this one)
64.94.101.155:27015
I might be late to this, but MvM matchmaking is messed up. Noone automatically joins games in progress.
That's usual when the gc is down. Just played, people connect just fine when it's working.
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