Major Update Speculation V33 - Tomorrow For Sure - Games

[QUOTE=CrossNgen;50651151]What's everybody's opinion on the idea of adding all of those unused workshop weapon models as special reskins for future campaigns? They're all just sitting there anyway and the chances of any new weapons in the foreseeable future are slim.[/QUOTE] That would make things super confusing for people. I'd much rather weapon models sit in limbo on the workshop than be designated to some tiered loot from a campaign.

Why everyone is suggesting that competitive will have a pay wall, the competitive scene is already small, and we alrezdy don't have enough players

[QUOTE=Nebrassy;50651216]Why everyone is suggesting that competitive will have a pay wall, the competitive scene is already small, and we alrezdy don't have enough players[/QUOTE] So would you rather have a gamemode filled with playes we have right now in pubs or with players who actually want to play?

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;50651170]That would make things super confusing for people. I'd much rather weapon models sit in limbo on the workshop than be designated to some tiered loot from a campaign.[/QUOTE] Is it really any different from stuff like the nostromo napalmer though?

[QUOTE=Nebrassy;50651216]Why everyone is suggesting that competitive will have a pay wall, the competitive scene is already small, and we alrezdy don't have enough players[/QUOTE] Because at this point I don't think valve would add anything to a game without trying to get money out of it.

404 put a comment on my profile: - Hint: 4 new taunts *should* be the following: - Pyro's Playtime: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564163010[/url] - Hoodoo Hex: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=537097018[/url] - Santé!: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=285497881[/url] - Au Revoir: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=299903909[/url] Textures for those taunts were found in the texture_preload_list.txt file from October 2015. Also included were two taunts that made it into the game, the Demoman's bagpipes taunt and the Bucking Bronco taunt. I'm willing to put money on the 4 taunts above being added. See -linkdoesn'tworksorry- for the files from the list (click Texture Preload List Discoveries, then Taunt Textures) -

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;50651258]Is it really any different from stuff like the nostromo napalmer though?[/QUOTE] Well, there are a few differences yeah - one being the Napalmer was created for a promo in the first place.

A lot of the weapon models on the workshop are amazing to look at, but having a whole bunch of new shapes and sizes stand to confuse the visual vocabulary of TF2 even further than it already has been. It's gotten to the point where I truthfully play more by sound than what I actually see with my eyes, listening more to weapons fire and class voices and making decisions based off of that. I kind of hope they ban promotional reskins in comp play once that update's out. No frying pans, no fishcakes, no iron curtains, no severed spy arms, no AWPs. Just good visual clarity on what weapons the other players are holding - and maybe ensure that each shooting weapon really has distinct firing noises, on top of that.

[QUOTE=HoundFromHell;50651238]So would you rather have a gamemode filled with playes we have right now in pubs or with players who actually want to play?[/QUOTE] people who actually want to play will rank up, remember that a big chunk of TF2 players are kids, sandvich heavies and f2ps, do uou prefer the gamemode to have players or not? [editline]5th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Man in the Moon;50651264]Because at this point I don't think valve would add anything to a game without trying to get money out of it.[/QUOTE] unless they actually want the game to grow

[QUOTE=Blackavar;50651267]404 put a comment on my profile: - Hint: 4 new taunts *should* be the following: - Pyro's Playtime: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564163010[/url] - Hoodoo Hex: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=537097018[/url] - Santé!: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=285497881[/url] - Au Revoir: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=299903909[/url] Textures for those taunts were found in the texture_preload_list.txt file from October 2015. Also included were two taunts that made it into the game, the Demoman's bagpipes taunt and the Bucking Bronco taunt. I'm willing to put money on the 4 taunts above being added. See -linkdoesn'tworksorry- for the files from the list (click Texture Preload List Discoveries, then Taunt Textures) -[/QUOTE] I highly doubt we are going to get 3 Spy taunts. Also Valve has a tendency to add an all-class looping taunt, look at Conga, Kazotsky Kick or Mannrobics.

[QUOTE=Blackavar;50651267]404 put a comment on my profile: - Hint: 4 new taunts *should* be the following: - Pyro's Playtime: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564163010[/url] - Hoodoo Hex: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=537097018[/url] - Santé!: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=285497881[/url] - Au Revoir: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=299903909[/url] Textures for those taunts were found in the texture_preload_list.txt file from October 2015. Also included were two taunts that made it into the game, the Demoman's bagpipes taunt and the Bucking Bronco taunt. I'm willing to put money on the 4 taunts above being added. See -linkdoesn'tworksorry- for the files from the list (click Texture Preload List Discoveries, then Taunt Textures) -[/QUOTE] yes i am absolutely sure valve will add 4 taunts, 3 of them being for spy only and zero of them being allclass. All of them being from nearly a year ago. And 404 has a fantastic history of commenting reputable things on peoples profiles, right? edit: and one of them is a halloween taunt. Come on dude, this isn't news and it certainly isn't useful anymore

[QUOTE=spd12;50651271]A lot of the weapon models on the workshop are amazing to look at, but having a whole bunch of new shapes and sizes stand to confuse the visual vocabulary of TF2 even further than it already has been.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's an important thing to consider and part of what I was touching upon. Reskins like the Postal Pummeler, Nine Iron, Fishcake, etc can already confuse things to a certain extent, and exacerbating that to a larger extent would only serve to further confuse things. If the models are different, they should have some logic to them that ties them to being a reskin of a particular weapon as opposed to a new weapon. Something like the AWP versus the Stock Rifle could be okay (albeit still ambiguous in some ways), but that would not carry over to a lot of other weapons - not to mention, weapon models on the workshop were not designed around the context of being a reskin.

[QUOTE=Nebrassy;50651272]people who actually want to play will rank up, remember that a big chunk of TF2 players are kids, sandvich heavies and f2ps, do uou prefer the gamemode to have players or not? [/QUOTE] Sorry but its pretty much guaranteed that it will either be mobile authenticator or a paywall. Even CsGo is moving that direction.

[QUOTE=Blackavar;50651267]404 put a comment on my profile: - Hint: 4 new taunts *should* be the following: - Pyro's Playtime: [URL]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564163010[/URL] - Hoodoo Hex: [URL]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=537097018[/URL] - Santé!: [URL]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=285497881[/URL] - Au Revoir: [URL]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=299903909[/URL] Textures for those taunts were found in the texture_preload_list.txt file from October 2015. Also included were two taunts that made it into the game, the Demoman's bagpipes taunt and the Bucking Bronco taunt. I'm willing to put money on the 4 taunts above being added. See -linkdoesn'tworksorry- for the files from the list (click Texture Preload List Discoveries, then Taunt Textures) -[/QUOTE] There's a lot of stuff in the texture preload that's been there for a while and hasn't been added. It's mostly just stuff Valve has tested in their build of TF2 that hasn't made it into an update for various reasons (people didn't respond well to it in playtests, wasn't feasible to add etc.). Not to say it wont be in a future update, it just doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes to Valve adding them.

[QUOTE=Blackavar;50651267]404 put a comment on my profile: - Hint: 4 new taunts *should* be the following: - Pyro's Playtime: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564163010[/url] - Hoodoo Hex: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=537097018[/url] - Santé!: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=285497881[/url] - Au Revoir: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=299903909[/url] Textures for those taunts were found in the texture_preload_list.txt file from October 2015. Also included were two taunts that made it into the game, the Demoman's bagpipes taunt and the Bucking Bronco taunt. I'm willing to put money on the 4 taunts above being added. See -linkdoesn'tworksorry- for the files from the list (click Texture Preload List Discoveries, then Taunt Textures) -[/QUOTE] If it does indeed end up being 3 spy taunts, Im not sure how to feel as a mainly Spy player, my wallet can only handle so much. I doubt it will be 3 spy taunts though, either one at most or none at all. I also just spent the last hour refreshing the last thread before realising it was closed, whoops.

[QUOTE=Blackavar;50651267]404 put a comment on my profile: - Hint: 4 new taunts *should* be the following: - Pyro's Playtime: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564163010[/url] - Hoodoo Hex: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=537097018[/url] - Santé!: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=285497881[/url] - Au Revoir: [url]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=299903909[/url] Textures for those taunts were found in the texture_preload_list.txt file from October 2015. Also included were two taunts that made it into the game, the Demoman's bagpipes taunt and the Bucking Bronco taunt. I'm willing to put money on the 4 taunts above being added. See -linkdoesn'tworksorry- for the files from the list (click Texture Preload List Discoveries, then Taunt Textures) -[/QUOTE] Not all these taunts will be added for this update or for ever. In tge gun mettle there files for the sante taunt but it was nerver added there were also files for the killer solo but it was added later. You cant just assume that if the files for it exists then it gonna get added. Another thing Valve has 4 private videos in the taunts playlist makes you wonder if these are the taunts

[QUOTE=Thunder_Cat7;50651336]Not all these taunts will be added for this update or for ever. In tge gun mettle there files for the sante taunt but it was nerver added there were also files for the killer solo but it was added later. You cant just assume that if the files for it exists then it gonna get added. Another thing Valve has 4 private videos in the taunts playlist makes you wonder if these are the taunts[/QUOTE] I wouldn't mind Pyro's Playtime and Hoodoo Hex, the other two spy taunts seem awfully stiff though.

One of the taunts will likely be a new conga style one made by Valve anyway, so it won't even be on the workshop.

Is maintenance being done early today? I can't remember the last time it was done this early.

Pyro,s playtime seems it would most likely get added but I hope they add [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564815386&searchtext="]The Acrobatic Arsonist[/URL] and [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=512931653&searchtext="]The Battlers Brass[/URL] I also hope Valve will make a marching band taunt for all class and they would all have there own instrument.

[QUOTE=Punchy;50651291]yes i am absolutely sure valve will add 4 taunts, 3 of them being for spy only and zero of them being allclass. All of them being from nearly a year ago. And 404 has a fantastic history of commenting reputable things on peoples profiles, right? edit: and one of them is a halloween taunt. Come on dude, this isn't news and it certainly isn't useful anymore[/QUOTE] Considering how terrible the last Scream Fortress case was at this, I wouldn't be surprised.

[QUOTE=Nebrassy;50651216]Why everyone is suggesting that competitive will have a pay wall, the competitive scene is already small, and we alrezdy don't have enough players[/QUOTE] Wasn't matchmaking created in first place so that all the players who were bored of pubs could actually play tf2 more seriously ?

[QUOTE=Oizen;50651428]Considering how terrible the last Scream Fortress case was at this, I wouldn't be surprised.[/QUOTE] What? Scream Fortress had sick all-class broom taunt and soldiers taunt was pretty decent too.

Valve does have a weird trend lately of using lots of Halloween community content after Halloween, so I would not be surprised if the Hoodoo Hex taunt got in. That being said, I can't see an update with more than one Spy exclusive taunt.

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;50651447]Valve does have a weird trend lately of using lots of Halloween community content after Halloween, so I would not be surprised if the Hoodoo Hex taunt got in. That being said, I can't see an update with more than one Spy exclusive taunt.[/QUOTE] How so ?

[QUOTE=gronfort;50651477]How so ?[/QUOTE] A lot of the hats from the Mayflower case were submitted for Halloween.

[QUOTE=GetGrenade;50651445]What? Scream Fortress had sick all-class broom taunt and soldiers taunt was pretty decent too.[/QUOTE] 4 All Class items Engineer had two 3 item sets Scout had two 2 item sets Pyro had 4 unrelated items Soldier had 1 hat This is hardly a good balance between the classes.

Mayflower feels like a delayed Scream Fortress. Heck, it had more Halloween items submitted for 2015 than the actual Scream Fortress. Last year's Scream Fortress had [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=329877796&searchtext="]3[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=326295474&searchtext="]items[/URL] [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=326292497&searchtext="]from 2014[/URL], and [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=302758445"]3 that were not submitted for Halloween at all.[/URL] I'm hoping this year's SF can include more items submitted for the update rather than a bulk of previous years items.

[QUOTE=Oizen;50651503]4 All Class items Engineer had two 3 item sets Scout had two 2 item sets Pyro had 4 unrelated items Soldier had 1 hat This is hardly a good balance between the classes.[/QUOTE] Pyro actually had 2 items belonging in a set (Elite hat and Assassin suit) and two random items (Neptune's Nightmare and Face of Mercy).

[QUOTE=Oizen;50651503]4 All Class items Engineer had two 3 item sets Scout had two 2 item sets Pyro had 4 unrelated items Soldier had 1 hat This is hardly a good balance between the classes.[/QUOTE] Yeah but how is that related to taunt discussion?