Ah, you just made me realise. They haven't touched the Claid. [I]They think it's fine.
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Hahahahaaa...
Why... why did they had to touch the bison, the brass beast and the huo-long, they were perfectly fine.
Like as a typical support player the Medic changes are pretty damn good
But that Pyro change just shits all over it. You get a notification telling you your ally's healing is interrupted, what are you meant to do about it? Change to your Needle gun and HOPE you can kill the Pyro before the Pyro gets to you?
I think that the thing with the pyro vs medic thing is that you already heal slower right after your target recieves damage, but (at least, I THINK), pyro didn't contribute to this as much as other classes that slowed the healing significantly.
[b]Crit-A-Cola[/b]: Doesn't seem like they applied the nerf correctly.
[b]Soda Popper[/b]: Yeah, alright he didn't need to get hype for doing next to nothing.
[b]Shortstop[/b]: ... Was this a needed new feature? I never use it so I don't really follow.
[b]Righteous Bison[/b]: Did it really need to be tweaked? Again I never used it and rarely see it outside of MvM.
[b]Disciplinary Action[/b]: I never used it because the speed boost was inconsequential/short to how I play and now it lasts an even shorter amount of time?
[b]Cozy Camper[/b]: In the hands of overly-competent Snipers this weapons was SORT OF a problem, but hardly completely unmanageable.
[b]Sydney Sleeper[/b]: Not awful. I might actually try it out, but I need to see it in action.
[b]Cleaner's Carbine[/b]: Same old song- I rarely see it and don't use it, but in this case I don't know that this is the thing that kept people from wanting to use it.
[b]Natascha and Brass Beast[/b]: ... I feel that these two still need to be completely reworked in some sense.
[b]Huo-Long Heater[/b]: +15% against people close to you and -10% (with falloff) for people at mid-to-long range where the Heavy is already at a disadvantage to power classes.
[b]Buffalo Steak Sandvich[/b]: Still not worth using in my opinion.
[b]Spy[/b]: Speed boost is... notable. Curious how it'll affect his play style.
[b]Enforcer[/b]: I don't think this was a bad change at all, but that's me.
[b]Pyro Flamthrowers[/b]: This is the most interesting change to me. I'll need to see how this feels/plays out.
[b]Mannmelter[/b]: This change is fine to me.
[b]Medic Mediguns[/b]: As someone who frequents/sorta mains Medic this intrigues me.
[b]Quick-Fix[/b]: Seems fair to me- the rate was a bit high, but perhaps it was too far? Heals faster, but it's megaheal is always going to be at a disadvantage to the Uber and Kritz.
[b]Overdose[/b]: I'm fine with this.
[b]Dropped Mediguns[/b]: Fair, but I'm going to miss picking up my old dropped mediguns for a surprise uber.
[b]Demoman Boots[/b]: I don't know that this was needed, but I could be wrong.
[b]Iron Bomber[/b]: I'm fine with this.
[b]Quickiebomb Launcher[/b]: I'll need to see these changes in action to judge them, it seems a bit OP at first glance- maybe not.
[b]Engineer Pelvis[/b]: Finally.
[b]Engineer Teleporter[/b]: Wow this is probably the most notable change to me alongside flamethrowers.
[b]Widowmaker[/b]: Interesting.
[b]Eureka Effect[/b]: I'll have to test it to see if it's actually worth using now.
[b]Short Circuit[/b]: This actually seems like an alright change.
[b]Pomson[/b]: It feels like they missed the point of what needed changing.
As much as I want Pyro to win. I really think at this point Heavy needs a rebalancing update ASAP.
[QUOTE=Dazzgrace;50668737]ok ill stop bitching about the changes for a second and say what my positive thoughts are:
the soda popper buff is reasonable
pyro's buff against medic sort of makes sense when you take into account of medic's changes
sydney sleeper is finally viable in 12v12 games but in 6v6 it should be changed to just be 1 jarate per person
i can sort of understand where they're coming from with the cozy camper but
jesus christ the bison nerfs and natascha nerf are so godawful they need to be reverted alongside the claid[/QUOTE]
Soda popper wasnt buffed that is a straight up nerf. Especially when the usefulness of the ability is already questionable
didn't get my pass time pin despite playing in the beta? :(
THEY HAD THE CHANCE TO TAKE UBER FRAIN OFF THE POMSON THEN DIDNT DO IT. WHAT THE FUCK
[QUOTE=alexelgeco;50668755]Why... why did they had to touch the bison, the brass beast and the huo-long, they were perfectly fine.[/QUOTE]
The huo-long existed to maybe set a brainless spy on fireand waste your ammo. Now it's actually useful, and interacts with your teammates by doing more damage against the people your Pyro torched.
[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;50668743]I'm super happy that hatless hats are getting Unusuals effects now. Now my Freddy Mercury set can be complete[/QUOTE]
Wait, shit... You mean this is a possibility now?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9GgHXPt.jpg?1[/IMG]
Sunbeams Texas Dome shine was my most wanted unusual back when they released unusuals... Hell, that was me on some random trade server who took that picture years and years ago above lol...
[QUOTE=Brobattington;50668734]I don't know if it's my internet or not but I cannot find a game in Casual Play.[/QUOTE]
The new Casual play system seems to need the game coordinator to work and that seems to be having problems right now.
[QUOTE=Kitt Stargaze;50668776]Wait, shit... You mean this is a possibility now?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9GgHXPt.jpg?1[/IMG]
Sunbeams Texas Dome shine was my most wanted unusual back when they released unusuals... Hell, that was me on some random trade server who took that picture years and years ago above lol...[/QUOTE]
According to this yes
[QUOTE=TomatoFlakes;50668500]i just unboxed a purple energy ritzy rick's
what the fuck[/QUOTE]
[t]https://i.imgur.com/mGcOprK.png[/t]
What was B4nny thinking when he gave the TF team some of these horrible changes?
-snip- ninja'd
[QUOTE=Razi The Red;50668759]
[b]Shortstop[/b]: ... Was this a needed new feature? I never use it so I don't really follow.
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it seems like a good way to get opponents into midrange so theyre easier to hit with the shortstop's tighter spread
[editline]7th July 2016[/editline]
im still sad we'll never see a sunbeams summer hat though :(
[QUOTE=Rigged237;50668724]I don't know if many remember but the Sydney Sleeper worked like it does now in this update by accident during the first few days of the spy/sniper update due to a bug.[/QUOTE]
sleeper wasnt added for sniper/spy
The fact that Valve will change weapons like the Claidheamh Mor, Persian Persuader and the Shortstop completely while leaving the Sandman alone, and changing the Natascha and Pomson without touching their core mechanics proves that they don't know anything about balancing their own game.
I'm not surprised at this point, just disappointed.
shortstop sounds like an objectively better force of nature
Is anyone else having issues just trying to look for games BTW?
I hit "Find a game" and absolutely nothing happens!
[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;50668781]According to this yes
[t]https://i.imgur.com/mGcOprK.png[/t][/QUOTE]
:excited::excited::excited:
Did the Shortstop really need to lose it's healing bonus?
Lol b4nny's going to be the scapegoat for these changes
[QUOTE=ikes;50668793]it seems like a good way to get opponents into midrange so theyre easier to hit with the shortstop's tighter spread
[editline]7th July 2016[/editline]
im still sad we'll never see a sunbeams summer hat though :([/QUOTE]
But with his speed and maneuverability was it really needed?
No new weapons nor hats? I have a feeling we'll get the heavy/pyro update right at the end of the voting, with the other one shortly after.
Did they completely removed Asteroid & Cactus Canyon from the selection ? Really?
Finding a community server running one of those maps and full will be a pain... That's a shame.
The lack of quick play is killing me.
Looking through the server list reminded me why I hadn't looked at it in years.
GC's down for me, so I can't even vote or anything
After reading all the patch notes, I'm overall loving this update! some changes are a bit meh, like Crit a Cola barely got nerfed andheavy got nerfed for no reason, but a lot of the changes are really good overall! Love it! :smile:
It frustrates me to no end that it's likely that the minimal heavy change ( i.e only fucking nerfs ) only happened because chances are anything good is being saved for his subsequent rebalancing way off in the future. Fucking annoying.
The Righteous Bison crippling is seriously driving me crazy. What possible train of logic lead to this change?
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