Major Update Speculation V31: Gamechanging Edition - Games

safe n sound was in the second round of community hats, wasn't it? good times. bringing back a lot of nostalgia for early hats in me. i remember seeing ayes get his self-made kabuto drop, and people praying to get the pain train, homewrecker and dalokohs in drops during the first community hat round.

Does anyone else find it really sad that these traders, most from godawful sites like reddit, will flood item creators profiles to make their item all class or multi class so they can make a quick buck? almost makes me happy that I have no skill in 3d modeling or texturing

Yes, we do, rolfum. Traders are okay if they do what they usually do - trade items for various prices to make profit, but stuff like the multi-classening shouldn't be in their say, they shouldn't even know, and especially spam item creators to do X, Y or X with their creations. It's their choice, and traders should stfu about it, refraining from trying to manipulate item creators to help them make profit.

[QUOTE=rolfum;50400529]Does anyone else find it really sad that these traders, most from godawful sites like reddit, will flood item creators profiles to make their item all class or multi class so they can make a quick buck? almost makes me happy that I have no skill in 3d modeling or texturing[/QUOTE] It's sad, but you'll find these kinds of people everywhere. They will step all over their fellow man to make a buck any way they can. Confidence tricks, pyramid schemes, thievery, social engineering, racketeering, etc. They flock to where there's an abundance of people to blend in with and profit to be made. These guys are a lot more open and blatant in online communities thanks to the lack of social and legal repercussions. Easy to move to a new identity if one gets too bad. With nothing to tie back to your real identity, you can get away with a ton.

Reminds me of [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erving_Goffman"]Goffman[/URL]! Now you people can go to be library and find some of his work and read about it, leave this thread dormant until there's something worthy posting about. If your need to be seen and heard is still lingering; there's a general thread to post at.

[QUOTE=SirWubbles;50400422]Adding new areas to maps allows for more building spots. Amazing observation![/QUOTE] You've completely missed the entire point of my analysis. This is clearly a map made by people who want to sit around and build sentry nests and turtle, but who were bored of 2Fort because the most common spots to build for defense there are also kind of boring if the rest of the team is doing a proper job fighting for control of the map, because they're tucked away in the back of the map. So they purposefully redesigned the map to take in-game action action away from other classes and instead give it to the Turtle-Engies. Instead of just changing their playstyle to suit the map, they went to the trouble of rebuilding an entire map to suit their own desires at the expense of others out of sheer bloodyminded stubbornness. They basically said, [I]"We want to be a bigger part of the action in the front of the map, but we refuse to stop our toxic behavior of turtling in the back of the map, so instead we're going to rebuild the entire map to funnel action away from everyone else and back toward us, so as to better enable our counterproductive playstyle."[/I] That's the kind of greedy bullshit selfishness I can barely comprehend.

always strikes to me as incredibly odd when people say "they made a map" when 98% of the vmf is valve's. they couldn't even be arsed to fix the lightning error on the bridge top.

Ah, but saying "We made a map!" sounds better than "We made a map edit!"

[QUOTE=Samwiseganja420;50399860]Regarding the Safe N Sound all-class rumors that were here before. [IMG]http://puu.sh/p6B6j/b4a2c5899e.png[/IMG] All I can say is; Thank god. The hat wouldn't really fit on other classes.[/QUOTE] "Only upon Valve's request" Have they ever actually asked someone to make an item all class post release? I thought its always been the creators choice.

[QUOTE=Yukinari;50402253]"Only upon Valve's request" Have they ever actually asked someone to make an item all class post release? I thought its always been the creators choice.[/QUOTE] It hasn't happened, he's just saying that's the only situation when he'd do it.

[QUOTE=Samwiseganja420;50399860]Regarding the Safe N Sound all-class rumors that were here before. [IMG]http://puu.sh/p6B6j/b4a2c5899e.png[/IMG] All I can say is; Thank god. The hat wouldn't really fit on other classes.[/QUOTE] apparently this isn't enough to stop [URL="http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28131475"]some traders[/URL]

[QUOTE=Avvy;50402481]apparently this isn't enough to stop [URL="http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28131475"]some traders[/URL][/QUOTE] Someone might want to inform him ( with proof ) that the hats not going all class, other wise people will probably flag him for scamming since it's now can be considered not going all class.

[QUOTE=Kitt Stargaze;50402525]Someone might want to inform him ( with proof ) that the hats not going all class, other wise people will probably flag him for scamming since it's now can be considered not going all class.[/QUOTE] People did [t]http://i.imgur.com/ycrk2kE.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/AMtTIFu.png[/t] bellend

-SNIP WOW WTF WRONG THREAD-

[QUOTE=Avvy;50402534]People did [t]http://i.imgur.com/ycrk2kE.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/AMtTIFu.png[/t] bellend[/QUOTE] I guess he won't give up on that hat becoming one, he [I]really[/I] wants it. I'm glad the Safe n' Sound isn't going all/multi class but my choice that I wanted for the Safe n' Sound is to have a second style of "Hat version". I been trying to make it with the Mining Light but all it does make the hardhat disappear. I want to ask a mod request for it but would be a waste of time for the modder.

[QUOTE=Avvy;50402534]People did [t]http://i.imgur.com/ycrk2kE.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/AMtTIFu.png[/t] bellend[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/GpBOPOH.png[/t] :goodjob:

Doublecross always feels empty to me.

[QUOTE=Avvy;50402534]People did [t]http://i.imgur.com/ycrk2kE.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/AMtTIFu.png[/t] bellend[/QUOTE] Well, on his head if he gets flagged as a scammer then. Nothing we can do about it.

Is there even any example of the TF team requesting or forcing an item to go all class? I can understand why he'd think that if they'd done it before, but I've never heard of anything like that happening. With a track record of never having done it, that'd be proof enough. Wonder how long it'll take him to accept that it won't be happening. On a semi-related note, I wonder if the Hotrod creator is still around. I like the hat, but its age is really apparent these days.

[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;50402716]Is there even any example of the TF team requesting or forcing an item to go all class? I can understand why he'd think that if they'd done it before, but I've never heard of anything like that happening. With a track record of never having done it, that'd be proof enough. Wonder how long it'll take him to accept that it won't be happening. On a semi-related note, I wonder if the Hotrod creator is still around. I like the hat, but its age is really apparent these days.[/QUOTE] IIRC he refused to make the hat paintable or update it whatsoever back then, or something like that. He seems to still be around, but hasn't made any tf2 stuff since. (and his profile is filled with PLS MAKE ALL CLASS comments, what a surprise. These people are fucking scum.)

[QUOTE=Dr.Scrake;50402809]IIRC he refused to make the hat paintable or update it whatsoever back then, or something like that. He seems to still be around, but hasn't made any tf2 stuff since. (and his profile is filled with PLS MAKE ALL CLASS comments, what a surprise. These people are fucking scum.)[/QUOTE] It's a shame to hear that. Getting hammered with such comments would turn me away from updating anything out of spite.

[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;50402716]Is there even any example of the TF team requesting or forcing an item to go all class? I can understand why he'd think that if they'd done it before, but I've never heard of anything like that happening. With a track record of never having done it, that'd be proof enough. Wonder how long it'll take him to accept that it won't be happening. On a semi-related note, I wonder if the Hotrod creator is still around. I like the hat, but its age is really apparent these days.[/QUOTE] They have asked for items to be separated a few times. The Copper's Hard Top and Security Shades were originally one item, same for the Teutonic Toque and Mustachioed Mann. Unless some contributor comes out and tells us, I doubt they've ever asked for an item to go all-class before, though.

[QUOTE=Magypsy;50403163]They have asked for items to be separated a few times. The Copper's Hard Top and Security Shades were originally one item, same for the Teutonic Toque and Mustachioed Mann. Unless some contributor comes out and tells us, I doubt they've ever asked for an item to go all-class before, though.[/QUOTE] speaking of the security shades, is it ever going to get an update? Its always been such a shame that they're so low poly and forgettable since they're only equippable by heavy

[QUOTE=rolfum;50403250]speaking of the security shades, is it ever going to get an update? Its always been such a shame that they're so low poly and forgettable since they're only equippable by heavy[/QUOTE] Both of the items could do with updating really. There's what you said with the Security Shades, and then the Copper's Hard Top is using the wrong lightwarp, is pretty pointlessly set up to use team colours (as the changes aren't really noticeable) and one of the styles is set up to be painted while the other one isn't. Plus there's not really that significant a difference between the two styles.

[QUOTE=rolfum;50403250]speaking of the security shades, is it ever going to get an update? Its always been such a shame that they're so low poly and forgettable since they're only equippable by heavy[/QUOTE] Wow, I hadn't really looked at it before and you're right. It doesn't even have earpieces since it was originally covered by the hat!

[QUOTE=Avvy;50402534]People did [t]http://i.imgur.com/ycrk2kE.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/AMtTIFu.png[/t] bellend[/QUOTE] Well he knows nothing

[QUOTE=TheJukebox;50403641]Well he knows nothing[/QUOTE] My TFMV is acting up - quick, someone dress up Heavy like Seargent Schultz using the Stahlhelm and whatnot and caption it.

[QUOTE=Magypsy;50403430]Wow, I hadn't really looked at it before and you're right. It doesn't even have earpieces since it was originally covered by the hat![/QUOTE] Dang, you're right. I've had it equipped with the Pounding Father since I got it as a drop years and years ago and never noticed.

[QUOTE=_charon;50402264]It hasn't happened, he's just saying that's the only situation when he'd do it.[/QUOTE] Subtle way of saying "It's never gonna be all-class." :v:

Guys you should totally make the last breath all-class :smug: But before that let me get 20 of them :smug: :smug: (this is sarcasm if you can't tell)