Major Update Speculation V31: Gamechanging Edition - Games

Can't wait to see what will happen jill, Hopefully you'll be freed from the offices.

[QUOTE=Drury;50495310]No my point is that all hats had the same unbox chance thus their value was only determined by their desirability, Valve had no say in it. This is not the case anymore.[/QUOTE] You're oversimplifying wildly. Not all hats had the same unbox chance - only [I]all hats within a single crate[/I] did. Those are two very different things. If you wanted a Glengarry Bonnet out of Crate #10, you had a 6.33% drop rate for it - but if you wanted a Grenadier's Softcap out of Crate #9, that was only a 3% chance. That means that for a given number of crates opened, the Softcap was [I]intrinsically[/I] twice as rare a find as the Bonnet, and thus twice as valuable at base, with absolutely no regard for desirability. Then there's also the fact that not all crates are opened equally. If a one hat has double the drop rate compared to another, but the crate it's in gets opened only 25% as frequently as the other one's crate does, then the hat with the [I]lower[/I] drop rate actually ends up being [I]twice as common[/I], because more of them get unboxed overall. The notion of some mythical glorious past when the value of hats was determined purely by their desirability is a total sham. It never existed, and anyone who fools themselves into thinking it did is falling prey to one of the oldest human blunders. Humans as a whole simply have an overwhelming bad habit of viewing the past more favorably than it really deserves, romanticizing the good and conveniently forgetting, ignoring, or excusing the bad.

so is the update going to make me want to stop playing overwatch for a bit, or no? what's on my plate

I want to be able to queue without using tickets. idk bout murica but in europe non ticket queues are pretty much dead

Let's Speculate: The next update is gonna be neato. (Am I doing this right?) "The next" - there will be no more hat updates until this update hits. "neato" - As already discussed, neat implies cleaning as such, but neato is also one letter away from nato, which implies a unification between teams- something that happens in MvM. It may also imply community/valve unification. "(Am I" - it is him speaking alone, so it is his opinion. "doing this right)"-He wants the community opinion, so we may be able to communicate with valve better going forward.

[QUOTE=thetrueprime;50495668]Let's Speculate: The next update is gonna be neato. (Am I doing this right?) "The next" - there will be no more hat updates until this update hits. "neato" - As already discussed, neat implies cleaning as such, but neato is also one letter away from nato, which implies a unification between teams- something that happens in MvM. It may also imply community/valve unification. "(Am I" - it is him speaking alone, so it is his opinion. "doing this right)"-He wants the community opinion, so we may be able to communicate with valve better going forward.[/QUOTE] Calm down VNN.

I don't know why anyone would get hyped about a Valve employee calling the next update "neato". Valve probably thought tiered cosmetics were "neato" too, otherwise they wouldn't've released them. I mean, it's not like they're gonna say "the next update is pretty boring" or "the next update is horrible".

I'm pretty sure Valve thought EoTL was pretty "neato" too

Maybe it's just the crazy skeleton lord update and they misspelled Nito?

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jill bb add the tsar bomber pls ty

I just want a normal crate with normal stranges. It's been so long.

[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;50495829]jill bb add the tsar bomber pls ty[/QUOTE] jill bb don't add the tsar bomb pls ty

[QUOTE=pipantarctic;50495872]jill bb don't add the tsar bomb pls ty[/QUOTE] wow rude im gonna tell the janitor!!!

[QUOTE=Dragadur;50494894]Jill, say hi to Robin for us.[/QUOTE] Something I've been wondering about for a long time, but there were two other people who were part of the original team that created Team Fortress and if they work for Valve at all or what not. I know Robin was/is more active in the community, but I never see anyone talk about John Cook or Ian Caughley ever. Just curious more or less...

Uhoh? Why is everyone suddenly sucking Jill? You call posting one post, reaching the community? Wew. "That update will be neato" It gives us nothing to speculate on. If the update is good is a subjective opinion, like someone said, Eotl was GOOD ENOUGH to Valve to be made into a full (??) update.

[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;50496017]Uhoh? Why is everyone suddenly sucking Jill? You call posting one post, reaching the community? Wew. "That update will be neato" It gives us nothing to speculate on. If the update is good is a subjective opinion, like someone said, Eotl was GOOD ENOUGH to Valve to be made into a full (??) update.[/QUOTE] Well I see mostly shitposts or whispers of hope on this page. But the fact that what Valve is doing recently differs from 2013/2014, I don't think we will be getting another EotL or Scream Fortress 6 - Doomsdayasmus Boogaloo.

That is because there is "The Overwatch menace!" that made them fear about losing their third money source. Still, one post is better than zero post. Maybe this update WILL BE neato? Maybe it's a multi-day update for old times sake? Also i see nothing wrong with Scream fortress 6, i found it pretty much innovative and tried to make new thing for tf2, it was a very funny and well made update. That duck meme is tiring however. i just want them to be less greedy with tf2 and the cosmetic, i'm sick of them locking all the cosmetic behind a paywall personally.

[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;50496044] i just want them to be less greedy with tf2 and the cosmetic, i'm sick of them locking all the cosmetic behind a paywall personally.[/QUOTE] But it's possible to get everything and anything you want with just trading, no money involved. I personally fucking despise trading so I just buy whatever I want, same argument totalbiscuit made, money vs time etc, but theres quite a few people with a bazillion unusuals and shit and they spend very little money on the game.

Relying on trading for item suck and i despise trading. I just want to get item by playing the game, i always wanted a system like the one in rocket league rewarding you for winning the game, i think that will wake up player and make them play the objective. Why not one hat for each victory? Trading is ridiculous, it's a game goddamit, not wall street. That also apply to CSGO and Dota. I feel like there are many beautiful item on tf2 that are just not used by the community for the sole reason that they are worth nothing in <<backpack.tf>> and i feel bad for the item maker to just have his item accepted in game so nobody use it.

[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;50496062]Relying on trading for item suck and i despise trading. I just want to get item by playing the game, i always wanted a system like the one in rocket league rewarding you for winning the game, i think that will wake up player and make them play the objective. Why not one hat for each victory?[/QUOTE] MvM works on that principle, and it's why you get kicked for shooting a single rocket at a pyrobot.

[QUOTE=Drury;50496068]MvM works on that principle, and it's why you get kicked for shooting a single rocket at a pyrobot.[/QUOTE] ... I don't get it :ohno:? I haven't played much tours in MvM, only five or six tours, i completed two citie and that's all.

[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;50496071]... I don't get it :ohno:? I haven't played much tours in MvM, only five or six tours, i completed two citie and that's all.[/QUOTE] giving rewards based on winning is not that good of an idea always, and it turns people into major assholes. one of the reasons I dislike mvm mann up is because either you do exactly as told or you get kicked and shit. As someone who hasn't played mvm in a year it kinda kills the feeling of wanting to play again. I just want to play pve for fun pls.

And unlike MvM, it's open for abuse too. You could just let 1 team winning constantly while the other team idles. Robots ain't doing that shit :v:

[QUOTE=Dr.Scrake;50496075]giving rewards based on winning is not that good of an idea always, and it turns people into major assholes. one of the reasons I dislike mvm mann up is because either you do exactly as told or you get kicked and shit. As someone who hasn't played mvm in a year it kinda kills the feeling of wanting to play again. I just want to play pve for fun pls.[/QUOTE] I have to agree on that but honestly how else would you get the rewards? MvM contracts does not sound much like a fun idea.

[QUOTE=ThePro1234;50496083]And unlike MvM, it's open for abuse too. You could just let 1 team winning constantly while the other team idles. Robots ain't doing that shit :v:[/QUOTE] Why not make it valve server-only? [editline]11th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr.Scrake;50496075]giving rewards based on winning is not that good of an idea always, and it turns people into major assholes. one of the reasons I dislike mvm mann up is because either you do exactly as told or you get kicked and shit. As someone who hasn't played mvm in a year it kinda kills the feeling of wanting to play again. I just want to play pve for fun pls.[/QUOTE] excepted that i'm talking about PvP and not PvE so people cannot do that kind of thing. What would they tell you to do in PvP ?

[QUOTE=lateguy;50496091]I have to agree on that but honestly how else would you get the rewards? MvM contracts does not sound much like a fun idea.[/QUOTE] Well the damage has already been done, so all that's left to do now is not repeat the same mistake with PvP.

[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;50496099]Why not make it valve server-only?[/QUOTE] Yeah let's kill community servers at all, who the hell needs them, when we can play dustbowl and upward over and over and over again...

[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;50496099]Why not make it valve server-only?[/QUOTE] Same deal. What's stopping players from cooperating and farm the heck out of it? And yeah, it'd put all community servers down to the grave once and for all.

[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;50496099]excepted that i'm talking about PvP and not PvE so people cannot do that kind of thing. What would they tell you to do in PvP ?[/QUOTE] Heal as medic or kick, not play spy or kick, not play demoknight or kick etc etc etc.