Major Update Speculation V31: Gamechanging Edition - Games

[QUOTE=gigazelle;49949479]I'm fairly confident that the last several recent updates we've had were the fractured remains of spy vs. engie. They were working towards it, deadlines slipped, roadblocks came in, and they scraped together gun mettle + tough break to salvage what they could. [/QUOTE] That's a shame. Spy vs. Engie sounded way better than what we got in Gun Mettle and Tough Break, although I did like the balance changes. [sp]fuck skins though[/sp]

Skins are okay, I just wish there was more weapon variety between them. That being said I'd only want more if they're like the Gentlemanne's Collection or Warbird Collection in terms of design

[QUOTE=165your4;49949663] [sp]fuck tiered cosmetics though[/sp][/QUOTE] fixed

[QUOTE=Spectre1406;49949846]fixed[/QUOTE] Tiered cosmetics and weapon skins were both terrible additions to this game. Not to mention performance killing for the latter. [IMG]http://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/image/fWFc82js0fmoRAP-qOIPu5THSWqfSmTELLqcUywGkijVjZULUrsm1j-9xgEMaQkUTxr2vTx8mMnvA-aHAfQ_ktk664Ma3jNlhQ1-OeK7PjJYfwHGCKdLUso-5g3_GiI2_MhoXdu6yKwDKE7rqtDBMLUvNt8eGpWEC_LVYV-s7EswgqQLK8CJ9n_viyu8PGpeCUfr_G8a2LjQx-GZ_64==/360fx360f[/IMG] Seriously what the fuck is this.

and theyre both imported from csgo! coincidence?

[QUOTE=gigazelle;49949479]I'm fairly confident that the last several recent updates we've had were the fractured remains of spy vs. engie. They were working towards it, deadlines slipped, roadblocks came in, and they scraped together gun mettle + tough break to salvage what they could. Same thing with the macabre web and autumn skins. We were probably going to get those for halloween, but issues came up to where the TF2 team couldn't finish them in time so they scraped together what they could for the halloween 2015 update, then released the skins we should have gotten for halloween at christmas time. In other words I have absolutely zero confidence we will ever get spy vs. engie, because we technically already got the pieces that valve actually finished (i.e. contracts, craftsman/concealed killer cases, etc.)[/QUOTE] Tough Break actually had new code added for the War update. Given we know Valve has worked on TF2 content for years before shipping it (MVM), plus don't forget that Valve still hasn't shipped the final versions of Asteroid and Cactus Canyon (which were part of the same teaser as what was probably the first Spy vs Engie teaser) despite confirming to Fro3znr that they are still in development and have had multiple updates to ship them in. It's still honestly to early to say if we'll get Spy vs Engie or not.

[QUOTE=Snowshoe;49950430][IMG]http://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/image/fWFc82js0fmoRAP-qOIPu5THSWqfSmTELLqcUywGkijVjZULUrsm1j-9xgEMaQkUTxr2vTx8mMnvA-aHAfQ_ktk664Ma3jNlhQ1-OeK7PjJYfwHGCKdLUso-5g3_GiI2_MhoXdu6yKwDKE7rqtDBMLUvNt8eGpWEC_LVYV-s7EswgqQLK8CJ9n_viyu8PGpeCUfr_G8a2LjQx-GZ_64==/360fx360f[/IMG] Seriously what the fuck is this.[/QUOTE] Don't quote me if I'm wrong here, but that is a poop-smeared medi gun.

The cycle continues; after complaining about the most recent update, we'll soon be complaining about either the "bi-monthly" comic or balance.

[QUOTE=Jetamo;49950996]The cycle continues; after complaining about the most recent update, we'll soon be complaining about either the "bi-monthly" comic or balance.[/QUOTE] What do you think the tf2 mercs eat for breakfest?

[QUOTE=poptart TF2;49951475]What do you think the tf2 mercs eat for breakfest?[/QUOTE] Ice cream?

[QUOTE=gigazelle;49950948]Don't quote me if I'm wrong here, but that is a poop-smeared medi gun.[/QUOTE] the only poop-smeared medi-gun is the quick fix [IMG]https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/d/d9/RED_Quick-Fix.png/250px-RED_Quick-Fix.png?t=20111211014748[/IMG] that little white splotch there ain't medical disinfectant

I think one of the big reasons spy vs. engi never happened was because it would inevitably turn into demo vs. engi.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;49951662]I think one of the big reasons spy vs. engi never happened was because it would inevitably turn into demo vs. engi.[/QUOTE] And then everyone goes Soldier to counter Demo. It's WAR! 2.0 and I'm more than okay with that

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;49951517]the only poop-smeared medi-gun is the quick fix [IMG]https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/d/d9/RED_Quick-Fix.png/250px-RED_Quick-Fix.png?t=20111211014748[/IMG] that little white splotch there ain't medical disinfectant[/QUOTE] Pretty sure thats white splotch is bird feces

Wonder what's taking the stress test so long...

[QUOTE=cha0s;49951837]Wonder what's taking the stress test so long...[/QUOTE] they might have enough data and dont need to do them anymore

[QUOTE=poptart TF2;49951857]they might have enough data and dont need to do them anymore[/QUOTE] That seems a bit rude, "here all you go, have fun." half off the community miss out "ok, fuck you guys, we're out, no more stress test for you."

[QUOTE=cha0s;49951902]That seems a bit rude, "here all you go, have fun." half off the community miss out "ok, fuck you guys, we're out, no more stress test for you."[/QUOTE] Stress tests are for them to test things out, not us.

[QUOTE=Spectre1406;49949846]fixed[/QUOTE] Both them really fucked up TF2 as a whole. I haven't played in months and have no desire to return until they actually do something interesting with the game, rather than milking it for money or turning it into a CS:GO clone. Matchmaking is a step in the right direction, but I hope to see something that can appeal to absolutely everyone like a new weapon (or two, but that's just unrealistic).

TBH, I do not see anything too bad about tiered cosmetics. It doesnt seem to affect trading too much, with some higher grade items being cheaper than quite a few lower grade items.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;49951517]the only poop-smeared medi-gun is the quick fix [IMG]https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/d/d9/RED_Quick-Fix.png/250px-RED_Quick-Fix.png?t=20111211014748[/IMG] that little white splotch there ain't medical disinfectant[/QUOTE] Yes but that's scientific shit and as for bad skins [T]https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/39/Backpack_Wildwood_Sniper_Rifle_Sniper_Rifle_Factory_New.png?t=20151219013829[/T][t]https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/30/Backpack_Sniper_Rifle.png?t=20111120061935[/t] It just looks like a bad saturation job

[QUOTE=165your4;49952109]something that can appeal to absolutely everyone like a new weapon[/QUOTE] Ha. Good one.

[QUOTE=Kapellmeister;49952409]Ha. Good one.[/QUOTE] A really well-balanced weapon like the Rescue Ranger (most recent example I can think of) is appreciated by basically everyone. A lot of the more recent new weapons have been seen as lackluster by a lot of the community because, well... they are. That doesn't necessarily mean they're not fun to use (I fucking love the Classic) but balance is just as important, and many new weapons are pretty underpowered in that regard (or, at least, they were - have some been buffed/nerfed recently?)

[QUOTE=ElderLolz;49951602]Where's the obligatory semen joke that someone has to make whenever white liquids are mentioned[/QUOTE] Sorry, I was running late. Can I still make that semen joke?

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;49952623]Sorry, I was running late. Can I still make that semen joke?[/QUOTE] That ship has sailed I'm afraid.

[QUOTE=Jetamo;49950996]The cycle continues; after complaining about the most recent update, we'll soon be complaining about either the "bi-monthly" comic or balance.[/QUOTE] At least the people that complain actually play the game.

[QUOTE=165your4;49952515]A really well-balanced weapon like the Rescue Ranger (most recent example I can think of) is appreciated by basically everyone. A lot of the more recent new weapons have been seen as lackluster by a lot of the community because, well... they are. That doesn't necessarily mean they're not fun to use (I fucking love the Classic) but balance is just as important, and many new weapons are pretty underpowered in that regard (or, at least, they were - have some been buffed/nerfed recently?)[/QUOTE] I think he poked fun at the rate we get real new guns. (when was the last new melee weapon? christmas 2011?)

[QUOTE=Lord Exor;49952768]At least the people that complain actually play the game.[/QUOTE] It's neither here nor [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1497826&p=49854612&viewfull=1#post49854612"]there[/URL] complaining about people not playing the game, Exor. I am still actively interested in TF2 - I am merely waiting for an update. Patiently.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;49952845] (when was the last new melee weapon? christmas 2011?)[/QUOTE] Neon Annihilator in 2012 if not counting the Bat Saber's pseudo stats

[QUOTE=GuntMyFries;49952897]Neon Annihilator in 2012 if not counting the Bat Saber's pseudo stats[/QUOTE] Damn, it's been that long since our last new melee?!?