Major Update Speculation V31: Gamechanging Edition - Games

[QUOTE=ikes;50013760]wouldnt the passes grow exponentially? considering each pass generates gifts every half a day or so, if every gift is given and every pass generates more passes, shouldnt the growth be exponential as opposed to, say, linear?[/QUOTE] Well, your assumptions are incorrect.

I'm already bored of MM because 6s passes by too quickly Unless it's on KOTH

[QUOTE=ikes;50013760]wouldnt the passes grow exponentially? considering each pass generates gifts every half a day or so, if every gift is given and every pass generates more passes, shouldnt the growth be exponential as opposed to, say, linear?[/QUOTE] Passes don't generate new passes every half a day, it seems to be more like 1 every 1-2 days.

[QUOTE=ikes;50013760]wouldnt the passes grow exponentially? considering each pass generates gifts every half a day or so, if every gift is given and every pass generates more passes, shouldnt the growth be exponential as opposed to, say, linear?[/QUOTE] The issue is that not all people give them out.

[QUOTE=Erfly;50014451]The issue is that not all people give them out.[/QUOTE] More like some of them trying to sell them to gain some free profit (no, i'm not doing that. I have enough friends to give them passes just to play with them).

What's the standard like in MM? I am decent on pubs and usually top 3, but I am hesitant to ask for a pass if I'm just going to stink it out and drag down whatever team I am. I only have 350 hours.

[QUOTE=Ace_Rimmer;50014681]What's the standard like in MM? I am decent on pubs and usually top 3, but I am hesitant to ask for a pass if I'm just going to stink it out and drag down whatever team I am. I only have 350 hours.[/QUOTE] Try it out in stress tests. Once everyone is ranked properly, you'll eventually end up in a rank where you can do decently.

[QUOTE=LZoleee;50014709]Try it out in stress tests. Once everyone is ranked properly, you'll eventually end up in a rank where you can do decently.[/QUOTE] Okay cheers, when do they run? Or do you mean I'd need a pass?

[QUOTE=pepetoads;50012297]partially the ranks dont work because there arent many players, and yeah an unbalanced game really isnt fun[/QUOTE] I unno, even though there aren't as many players as there could be I feel the system would be a lot better if the ranking system had more thought put into it other than "win=gain elo lose=lose elo", I've said it before but not taking individual skill into account kinda ruins the whole point of it being matchmaking. I also agree that koth games are a hell of a lot more fun than 5cp, it'd be nice if we could choose the pool to search for games in like csgo because 5cp just doesn't really work when a majority of the people you play with have no semblance of tactics or, well, thinking at all, whereas a lack of that is a lot more forgiving in koth. I'm pretty sure only two people out of the dozens of people who've told me how to play actually knew what they were talking about and that doesn't sit as well with 5cp.

[QUOTE=Ace_Rimmer;50014681]What's the standard like in MM? I am decent on pubs and usually top 3, but I am hesitant to ask for a pass if I'm just going to stink it out and drag down whatever team I am. I only have 350 hours.[/QUOTE] My experience has mostly been go into matchmaking by yourself, get matched with randoms against a professional team and get rolled.

I was doing some MM with other FP guys and we came across Tagg and friends. Good times.

Most of the time you are in a random team vs premade team. End result is you losing. Great matchmaking experiences: Our team had an Engineer, he was not a nice fellow, he had no hats and his helmet was yellow, he built sentries that got destroyed instantly, and he called us idiots and noobs, obviously he had the least score of all. Once I was on a team of random people, we got steamrolled in two games by the same team, it was a pre-made team of friends. Fun times.

[QUOTE=poptart TF2;50013340]Also is there anyone reading this thread right now who doesn't have a beta pass?[/QUOTE] I don't because I don't care about MM, personally.

we need harsher punishments for abandoners (aka ban them like in csgo) so sick of winning round one and then one dude from the other team ragequitting

I hope we eventually get a Carpet Bomber Grenade Launcher to go along with the Sticky Launcher.

I hope we get soome new weapons for Spy Engie and Pyro (also heavy.. Everyone wants stuff for heavy, right?) Anyways, fact that major smismass update gave us no new weapons nor festives (well... Pistol) is quite saddening, then again, MM balancing

[QUOTE=poptart TF2;50013340]how many beta passes do you currently think exist then? Also is there anyone reading this thread right now who doesn't have a beta pass?[/QUOTE] I'm here hoping for something related to the next comic.

Valve, really need to add an option for the user to decide if they want to be matched with users that are in a party with someone

[QUOTE=superbro11;50017570]Valve, really need to add an option for the user to decide if they want to be matched with users that are in a party with someone[/QUOTE] It'll probably be difficult for parties to find matches that way.

Aww i'm so hyped for those 30-31th of March (End of a Tough Break campaign)! I bet it's gonna be something huge.

[QUOTE=Jhejh poT;50017867]Aww i'm so hyped for those 30-31th of March (End of a Tough Break campaign)! I bet it's gonna be something huge.[/QUOTE] It'll probably be a month or more before the next big update, and it's most likely going to be matchmaking's full release, along with balance changes. Which, to be honest, is something that I'm very excited for, as it might be the start of Valve-promoted competitive TF2.

I'm pretty excited for the next campaign aswell, If the skins are anywhere near the quality of tough break, count me in.

[QUOTE=Thoopje;50017648]It'll probably be difficult for parties to find matches that way.[/QUOTE] Those poor babies

First matchmaking game I was placed in a team of Rank 1 players versus a team of bronze to gold rank players. Team Balance still as broken as ever.

Also, Im suprised we still don't have ability to choose which operation coin/stamp should be showed on the scoreboard

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;50019427]First matchmaking game I was placed in a team of Rank 1 players versus a team of bronze to gold rank players. Team Balance still as broken as ever.[/QUOTE] no man its totally because theres so few people playing, beta passes are super rare and not at all easy to obtain. The ranking system is completely perfect and not at all broken, how dare you speak against the great valve who can do no wrong.

People need to stop bitching about Matchmaking being buggy. It's a beta, early beta at that. TF2 Team is trying to work on servers and such right now, which is much more important than fixing how to level up. Beta is for testing and reworking, at least be glad you can actually take part in it.

The point of a beta is to see what shit works and what shit doesn't. Valve needs to listen to feedback (which they are), but people need to shut up about it not being perfect and remember it's still in early beta.

[QUOTE=Jhejh poT;50017867]Aww i'm so hyped for those 30-31th of March (End of a Tough Break campaign)! I bet it's gonna be something huge.[/QUOTE] Be realistic - we won't get anything until summer, and when content finally arrives it'll be a shitty cash grab shoehorned in from some other Valve game. Everyone will complain, but they'll still participate in the update and spend all their money. The TF team will then see the profit they make and pretend that the update was good, interesting, and that the community wants more content like it. Not that they know any better - members of the community could literally scream into the TF teams' ears and they'd still not hear it (unless of course you play competitive, because apparently turning TF2 into the next eSports cash cow is more important than listening to the majority of the players, who really don't give a fuck about comp beyond matchmaking, which I'll admit is pretty neat).

I hope when matchmaking comes out sv_pure is set to 0 is pubs. I just want all time Jerma scout.