[QUOTE=TheJoey;29112860]I dont have a decompiled version of nightfall (and there isnt one on tf2maps) so I don't know what ambient noise that is exactly... Could be a combination of sawmill's waterfall, or sawmill's inside ambiance, and one of three water drip sounds. Or an entirely new one.
BUT there are ambient noises of dripping and rain all throughout the map.
You mean like ctf Sawmill's intel room. Thought about adding water to many low areas of the map, but water is a little dodgy for me and I have to study how to make it work in Source without it [i]literally eating the map[/i] and causing errors. Thanks for the suggestion! and I'm on the same page as you, so it may or may not be added in eventually.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. It would look pretty cool.
Looks pretty good.
It looks so much more open and fertile, my god it is awesome! Only problem I could see was some minor texture blending errors.
This is damn nice man.
Great job!
Looks like someone from minecraft tried to recreate dustbowl.
Really though, this will make dustbowl more fun to play, especially for sawmill fans
Thanks again for all the replies, guys.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;29114490]It looks so much more open and fertile, my god it is awesome! Only problem I could see was some minor texture blending errors.[/QUOTE]
Anything that stands out? I can do my best to fix them.
I always wanted to do this. I'm glad to see you've taken liberty to do it yourself.
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[url]http://steamcommunity.com/id/thejoey01/screenshot/594682414764771491?filter=app_440[/url]
That little section is begging to have water added to it. Other than that and a few little flukes, you have yourself a great map!
[QUOTE=redBadger;29115490]I always wanted to do this. I'm glad to see you've taken liberty to do it yourself.
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[url]http://steamcommunity.com/id/thejoey01/screenshot/594682414764771491?filter=app_440[/url]
That little section is begging to have water added to it. [/QUOTE]
I totally agree and if I can get water working okay that whole area will be flooded, including the shortcut tunnel.
I hate to be the one to say this but the idea is solid but the execution is lacking. All you did was change textures, a light or two and added a func_precipitation and the soundscape. If you wanted a truely unique dustbowl you should have added more, a whole lot more. This isn't a new map, or an improved one. this is a re texture.
I realise this is a WIP but to make it any different from 2FORT NIGHTTIME you have to revamp this to the degree where you can barely recognize it as dustbowl, but still have core gameplay there.
32 Man Insta-Spawn RTD LUSHBOWL
[QUOTE=Dachande;29116727]I hate to be the one to say this but the idea is solid but the execution is lacking. All you did was change textures, a light or two and added a func_precipitation and the soundscape. If you wanted a truely unique dustbowl you should have added more, a whole lot more. This isn't a new map, or an improved one. this is a re texture.
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welp that's
the point. so if you understand this, 1. i've done my job as intended, and 2. you have average reading comprehension skills and can read the op. It's not supposed to be a "truly unique dustbowl". It's just supposed to be a "theme", kind of like harvest_event and harvest_final.
And no, you don't use a func_precipitation because that does not exist in TF2. You have to use particles, and placement is a lot more complicated than just laying down a big func precip box. I added several more lights than "a light or two", and swapped and added several objects. I don't want anyone to look at it and barely recognize dustbowl. I want people to look at it and say "wow this is dustbowl in a rainy forest".
I'd hate to be on the offensive here about your opinion but your opinion seems to be based on false presumptions of what you are supposed to look at here. Sorry to disappoint.
Now we just need somebody to make dustbowl winter.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;29117214]welp that's
the point. so if you understand this, 1. i've done my job as intended, and 2. you have average reading comprehension skills and can read the op. It's not supposed to be a "truly unique dustbowl". It's just supposed to be a "theme", kind of like harvest_event and harvest_final.
And no, you don't use a func_precipitation because that does not exist in TF2. You have to use particles, and placement is a lot more complicated than just laying down a big func precip box. I added several more lights than "a light or two", and swapped and added several objects. I don't want anyone to look at it and barely recognize dustbowl. I want people to look at it and say "wow this is dustbowl in a rainy forest".
I'd hate to be on the offensive here about your opinion but your opinion seems to be based on false presumptions of what you are supposed to look at here. Sorry to disappoint.[/QUOTE]
You are telling me that your [i]goal[/i] was to make looking at a really shitty rexture of a map? I'm sorry but wouldn't it be alot better if you edited the map a tad more, allowing for a more unique dust bowl experience?
That's right, you did your job as intended. You made a bad version of a good map, and you refuse to build upon it to make it a unique experience from truly every angle. the map's no better than every shitty 2fort remake you see - stop defending it like you had an agenda, because the truth here is that even if you did, the end result was a really bad map with different textures and a few new brushes here and there.
[QUOTE=Dachande;29117324]You are telling me that your [I]goal[/I] was to make looking at a really shitty rexture of a map? I'm sorry but wouldn't it be alot better if you edited the map a tad more, allowing for a more unique dust bowl experience?
That's right, you did your job as intended. You made a bad version of a good map, and you refuse to build upon it to make it a unique experience from truly every angle. the map's no better than every shitty 2fort remake you see - stop defending it like you had an agenda, because the truth here is that even if you did, the end result was a really bad map with different textures and a few new brushes here and there.[/QUOTE]
That, Bad? Hardly. Your brain must be inside out to think that. Show us better that you have made and then well think you're worthwhile.
it still isn't particularly amazing from a mapping stance. i never have liked those graphical re-dos of already existing maps, they're just lighting changes, maybe a few brushwork changes and adding a few props, particles, etc., i generally prefer to play the original than having to download another map for the exact same gameplay of one that i already have anyway
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[QUOTE=DinoJesus;29117348]That, Bad? Hardly. Your brain must be inside out to think that. Show us better that you have made and then well think you're worthwhile.[/QUOTE]
UM IF YOU THINK YOURE GOOD THAN MAKE BETTER DUMBASS
bad argument, kill yourself
[QUOTE=Aurora93;29117377]it still isn't particularly amazing from a mapping stance. i never have liked those graphical re-dos of already existing maps, they're just lighting changes, maybe a few brushwork changes and adding a few props, particles, etc., i generally prefer to play the original than having to download another map for the exact same gameplay of one that i already have anyway
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UM IF YOU THINK YOURE GOOD THAN MAKE BETTER DUMBASS
bad argument, kill yourself[/QUOTE]
Coming from the person who makes stupid exagerated quotes, I could care less. He's just trying to learn some mapping, and I see no problem in it. If you want to bitch and moan be my guest, but don't do it for stupid reason.
what exactly have i exaggerated my quotes on lol
stop white knighting the op
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UM IF YOU THINK YOURE GOOD THAN MAKE BETTER DUMBASS
bad argument, kill yourself[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't need to be a master chef to say that my meal tastes like shit.
Is this hosted anywhere?
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;29117348]That, Bad? Hardly. Your brain must be inside out to think that. Show us better that you have made and then well think you're worthwhile.[/QUOTE]
I appreciate your reply here, because I really did put a lot more effort than he says I did. but I'm going to have to disagree with the last sentence; You don't have to be a chef to say what's wrong with the cooking.
While your comments have been a bit on the personal and insulting side, I do appreciate your concerns, Dachande, and I will attempt to improve my work so it may not intrude on your gaming experience. :unsmith:
[QUOTE=McNab;29117519]Is this hosted anywhere?[/QUOTE]
It's not complete; it is a work in progress.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;29117348]That, Bad? Hardly. Your brain must be inside out to think that. Show us better that you have made and then well think you're worthwhile.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying that it isn't visually appealing, im saying that it is not as visually appealing as it could infact be. If he changed alot more of the style and overall feel it would have been a much, much much much more enjoyable map in general.
[img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541765119162122110/BBB1D357C44D933EA929DE0673115A99835FC196/[/img]
[img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541765119162122494/20D3E67B1C723ED0FDD87866BF87D91985C215A7/[/img]
[img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541765119162121726/1EC2FAD8C66773390AF9CDE312E7A8D1D17BD979/[/img]
i did most of this today, there is my work.
[img]http://horobox.co.uk/u/Dachandehurr_1302661098.jpg[/img]
[img]http://horobox.co.uk/u/Dachandehurr_1302602483.jpg[/img]
media image tags don't work anymore, too
I'm not saying you cant have an opinion on it, but you guys are being assholes looking for bullshit reasons to put him down. It isn't released, so you cant bitch about having to download another map, and the only reason hes remaking it is to get more experience with hammer. Now who am I gonna side with. The upfront asshole saying kill yourself, or the mapper who hasn't done a single thing wrong. You can have your opinions, but if you don't have anything to back them up, then they aren't worth as much. A person experience in a subject has a better opinion than someone without experience. And so far you haven't proved any experience.
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[QUOTE=Dachande;29117571]I'm not saying that it isn't visually appealing, im saying that it is not as visually appealing as it could infact be. If he changed alot more of the style and overall feel it would have been a much, much much much more enjoyable map in general.
[img_thumb]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541765119162122110/BBB1D357C44D933EA929DE0673115A99835FC196/[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541765119162122494/20D3E67B1C723ED0FDD87866BF87D91985C215A7/[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541765119162121726/1EC2FAD8C66773390AF9CDE312E7A8D1D17BD979/[/img_thumb]
i did most of this today, there is my work.
[img_thumb]http://horobox.co.uk/u/Dachandehurr_1302661098.jpg[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://horobox.co.uk/u/Dachandehurr_1302602483.jpg[/img_thumb]
media image tags don't work anymore, too[/QUOTE] Sorry I just caught the situation halfway through and assumed you were trying to insult him, my bad.
couldn't find some of my better pics or any compiled crap
[media]http://gyazo.com/2da913bb8873169bb9736847531a18ed.png[/media]
[media]http://gyazo.com/23923f57ec828d222ef1cd0d71bf3e16.png[/media]
[media]http://gyazo.com/7122e588c603db17a4ef6b33f077000f.png[/media]
[media]http://gyazo.com/02023b2396ec56c429dff696070c2e3e.png[/media]
don't assume that i don't know what i'm talking about
too many props, bad lighting and a TERRIBLE skybox dachande
[QUOTE=NeoDement;29117805]too many props, bad lighting and a TERRIBLE skybox dachande[/QUOTE]
old pic, loved props then, the lighting is gay agree and the skybox 'si from the guy who made the advanced randomizer sever, made the map to showcase it off
This map is fucking amazing, I hope to see a 24/7 server of it soon, I would play it all day.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;29117578] You can have your opinions, but if you don't have anything to back them up, then they aren't worth as much. A person experience in a subject has a better opinion than someone without experience. And so far you haven't proved any experience[/QUOTE]
I doubt this is the case but do you realize where we are coming from now? All of these maps are original, we made them from scratch. All that has been done here is a slight change in a few things, if he were to become incredibly drastic and change alot, our opinions on it would change, too.
It looks really nice, although the video makes it look a little like sawmill in the beginning :v:
Keep up the good work.
It's beautiful.
Do this for all / most valve maps and put it in a pack. Looks great for machinima and taint screenshots
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