[QUOTE=Keychain;23802621]no direct hit is already strong against buildings[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and I also think that I would not be using the Tank Buster if it's only advantage was a counter to Engineers.
...or perhaps I would, I'm getting really tired of all the sentries with that fucking shield on them :/
[QUOTE=Simski;23802510]That would also be cool, I'm not sure if that would perhaps be overpowered though... People already go crazy about facestabs, imagine the rage if people could start doing face-stabs on demand.
Perhaps if it "drops disguise on failed stab".
THEN it would be really risky.[/QUOTE]
Oh no, still from the back, but the payoff is an instant placesteal. Like they don't scream, the body doesn't show, and the only clue it happened is the killicon. Drops disguise on failed stab is logical.
[QUOTE=CrazyBaconLegs;23802734]Oh no, still from the back, but the payoff is an instant placesteal. Like they don't scream, the body doesn't show, and the only clue it happened is the killicon. Drops disguise on failed stab is logical.[/QUOTE]
Ah, that sounds more balanced.
I like this idea.
I would like [i]something[/i] to happen to the victims though.
Perhaps they would silently fall over while turning into disguise smoke.
Eternal reward could make you 5% faster for -25hp. That might be OP though.
Tank buster should be renamed to "Uncle S.A.M." and it would launch heat-seeking missles. They move slower than normal though
Whatever they do, I want them. Like, now.
[QUOTE=Simski;23802993]Ah, that sounds more balanced.
I like this idea.
I would like [i]something[/i] to happen to the victims though.
Perhaps they would silently fall over while turning into disguise smoke.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/24/sketchp.jpg[/img]
Too bad the one who died such a fate could easily alert everyone over the mic.
[QUOTE=Mico27;23803315][img]http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/24/sketchp.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Haha, cool.
I'm thinking you're just joking through right :v:?
The idea of the corpse simply disappearing would be good for the Spy in terms of stealth, but it would probably strange as hell and unrealistic even for a video game if he simply disappeared instantly without a trace as if someone had used a remover gun on them.
How about the enemy falls over silently, and the body makes no impact noises.
Then a few seconds after they've been killed they disappear in puff of smoke.
Kinda like how enemies die in The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker (without the sound though).
Look at 3:55 for reference.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4Ywt4IPEY&feature=related[/url]
This would make it so that him killing his enemies is detectable, but only fort a short moment.
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[QUOTE=Djokson;23803363]Too bad the one who died such a fate could easily alert everyone over the mic.[/QUOTE]
This would only be a problem in competitive games and on arena though.
Most people pay no attention to the people that call out what the Spy is disguised as, only where the Spy was seen. Spies change disguises constantly either way, so looking for a specific class disguised as a Spy is a waste of time. You're only being useful to your team if you call out the area you were killed by the Spy in. If you're talking about Medics calling out that they've just been killed by a Spy to protect their teammate, they can already do that.
Bleed effects on [highlight][i][b]EVERYTHING[/b][/i][/highlight]
The Bushwacka (sniper new melee weapon)
+15% more damage from behind
-5% Slower
[?]
I hope we'll see lots of new effects, like how bleeding was added just for the shiv when it came out. Drug effects for the sleeper, etc. Maybe the sydney sleeper would temporarily scramble your controls like old racing games used to do
now we need poison, sleep, frozen, paralyze statuses.
[QUOTE=Keychain;23804742]Sandman. :v:[/QUOTE]
that's more like confusion
Black Box:
+35% Damage to buildings.
+40% Splash Radius
-15% damage.
[QUOTE=HJ-kos;23804584]paralyze statuses.[/QUOTE]
I would love it if the Sydney Sleeper's kill effect was the same as the Golden Wrench only the enemies aren't covered in gold.
Basically, paralyzed corpses.
[QUOTE=HJ-kos;23804762]that's more like confusion[/QUOTE]
Scout uses Sandman...
Heavy is confused.
Heavy hurt itself in confusion.
Heavy fainted.
[QUOTE=Frost42;23804923]Scout uses Sandman...
Heavy is confused.
Heavy hurt itself in confusion.
Heavy fainted.[/QUOTE]
that's the idea
Am I being very optimistic if I believe the update will come either this Thursday or the next?
[QUOTE=Djokson;23803363]Too bad the one who died such a fate could easily alert everyone over the mic.[/QUOTE]
How can they? You can't hear the dead when you're alive. By default anyway.
Yeah Valve don't balance their weapons around non-default server options.
[QUOTE=Simski;23801563]I am loving that Jafar is "disguised" :v:
I would like the idea of a knife that disguises you as your victim the instant you kill them, however that sounds very overpowered.
I don't think that removing the Sapper or Revolver would make up for it.
It doesn't make sense that it would remove the Revolver, because then it would be the first unlockable that replaced 2 weapons at the same time, and I hate the idea of it disabling the sapper because that only discourages team work.
If it had something as powerful as making the Spy not drop his disguise when killing an enemy, it would have to come with a major downside as well.
Perhaps reduced movement speed, or perhaps that it has to hover over the enemies back for 1 or 2 seconds before it can stab.
I personally like the idea of it having to hover in the "ready to backstab" animation for 1 or 2 seconds, along with the removal of "death screams" from enemies when they die.
If these were the stats:
[code]Eternal reward:
+ Disguise as your victim on kill.
+ No death scream from victim.
- Backstabs have to be charged.[/code]
+ We could backstab Engineers guarded by two sentries.
+ We could kill a medic without alerting his patient.
+ We could kill someone behind a teammate without alerting the enemy in front.
- We would have to be aligned with the enemies backs for a short while before stabbing.
- We are much more vulnerable when detected.
- No chain-stabs.
- No face-stabs.[/QUOTE]
This I would consider. It allows for clean assassinations. However, the problem is they'd notice the backstab kill icon. Though players don't notice it first thing, the icon is still there and generally players will scream into their mic "I WAS BACKSTABBED BY A SPY" or type it in chat totally giving you away.
You cannot rush perfection. I'm thinking that since people would constantly criticize their newer attributes they are actually putting more value and thinking into these weapons.
[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;23805963]This I would consider. It allows for clean assassinations. However, the problem is they'd notice the backstab kill icon. Though players don't notice it first thing, the icon is still there and generally players will scream into their mic "I WAS BACKSTABBED BY A SPY" or type it in chat totally giving you away.[/QUOTE]
That is a universal problem with the Spy, not with the weapon.
People don't usually pay that much attention to the icons anyway.
They usually only do when there is a very small amount of people playing, and when a very small amount of people are playing you're fucked as a spy either way.
[QUOTE=EvilShadow777;23805963]This I would consider. It allows for clean assassinations. However, the problem is they'd notice the backstab kill icon. Though players don't notice it first thing, the icon is still there and generally players will scream into their mic "I WAS BACKSTABBED BY A SPY" or type it in chat totally giving you away.[/QUOTE]
Once again, not a problem with the default chat settings where if you're dead the living can't hear you.
You can still use the chat.
Yes you can use the chat, but what good is it telling dead people there is a spy behind that heavy over there?
They better not remove the backstab for the new Knife. Otherwise it will be instantly useless.
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Also the new revolver should fire faster but do less damage. The design of it looks like a faster firing weapon (at least IMO).
[QUOTE=HJ-kos;23804762]that's more like confusion[/QUOTE]
not really
you don't get a random chance as to whether to attack or hurt yourself, paralyze is just not being able to move
sandman prevents moving
Poison on the fish melts all your skin and inerds and leaves a skeleton. Like how the eyelander cuts off your head
daimao approves
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