VALVE CUT CONTENT V2+1: Digging through Valve's trash since 2003!
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Found a Half-Life sample today in Altered States
[video]https://youtu.be/0iXfWWrwrlQ?t=111[/video]
[url]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352709175429693440/418169001240166420/Head_Nodder_2-101.wav[/url]
(Go to 1:50 in the video to hear it.)
So I was going through HL2 Beta's model folder, and found something very out of place.
[IMG]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337297496919375875/418597262634123275/Untitled.png[/IMG]
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, I even searched up the filename to make sure I wasn't the only one who noticed this, but I guess I am.
This was actually meant for Team Fortress Invasion, and not Half-Life 2. The Aerial Sentry is mentioned several times within the source code for TF2, but has no cpp files under it's name, it's only included with other files or referenced within others. I usually figured it was just something that they were working on before the plug was pulled on Invasion, but I guess I'm wrong.
But this also means that whoever leaked this also has Team Fortress 2 Invasion models. Hoping this leads to something.
[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;53168455]Axel, the German hacker, had all the assets, but you can rest your hope.[/QUOTE]
Axel didn't leak HL2 or the assets, but he did have pretty much everything. anon-hl2 wasn't Axel, pretty sure it was somebody else. Axel wasn't the only one going through Valve's servers at the time.
it looks like a Combot:
[t]https://i.imgur.com/zZfWpVl.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Jackathan;53168459]it looks like a Combot:
[t]https://i.imgur.com/zZfWpVl.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Maybe it's a temp model? Doesn't seem that out of question.
Edit: to clarify, I mean that the combot model was probably used as a placeholder for the aerial sentry until it got it's own model, but judging by the phys file that probably never happened.
So has anyone made a model for the cut citizens?
[img]https://i.imgur.com/zjzYldW.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/aUBncb9.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/WYPzUF7.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/U88UueU.png[/img]
I'm quite fascinated about them
Edit: Added images
I guess you'll just have to [B]face[/B] it, there is no model :vs:
[QUOTE=ToyokaX;53168764]there is no model :vs:[/QUOTE]
There is something better. A drawing of a model.
[IMG]https://pp.userapi.com/c824500/v824500362/d6b3b/bevAPWnbh48.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://pp.userapi.com/c636430/v636430131/36660/217Dt1pUtxg.jpg[/IMG]
(c) A-Shift
[QUOTE=BuTou;53168910]There is something better. A drawing of a model.
[ART GALLERY][/QUOTE]
That's pretty good, actually! The Citizen models could actually look like that. Did Valve not have enough time to do the unused facemaps?
[QUOTE=Nextwizard;53168457]Axel didn't leak HL2 or the assets, but he did have pretty much everything. anon-hl2 wasn't Axel, pretty sure it was somebody else. Axel wasn't the only one going through Valve's servers at the time.[/QUOTE]
Wrong. Axel did leak the content because the source code was already leaked. His copy of Team Fortress 2 and GoldSrc never made it to the internet.
[QUOTE=ProZak;53169029]Wrong. Axel did leak the content because the source code was already leaked. His copy of Team Fortress 2 and GoldSrc never made it to the internet.[/QUOTE]
The only thing Axel leaked I believe was the source code, but even then he did not intend for it to get out there, as he only gave it to some friends. The other thing he leaked was probably the passwords for getting into valve, and I never said anything about his copy being on the internet, I already read about him not having it in an interview. I think it was just myg0t that leaked it in the end, Axel just started the fire, the rest kept it burning.
[QUOTE=Nextwizard;53169058]The only thing Axel leaked I believe was the source code, but even then he did not intend for it to get out there, as he only gave it to some friends. The other thing he leaked was probably the passwords for getting into valve, and I never said anything about his copy being on the internet, I already read about him not having it in an interview. I think it was just myg0t that leaked it in the end, Axel just started the fire, the rest kept it burning.[/QUOTE]
Alex leaked the Half-Life 2 content, not the source code. The source code was leaked by a member of myg0t. Axel was hacked by a member of myg0t and that's how they got the source code and access to Valve.
I've been told it directly from Axel himself.
[QUOTE=ProZak;53169062]Alex leaked the Half-Life 2 content, not the source code. The source code was leaked by a member of myg0t. Axel was hacked by a member of myg0t and that's how they got the source code and access to Valve.
I've been told it directly from Axel himself.[/QUOTE]
Oh, well thanks for clearing it up then. Either I was misinformed or I misread something to think that he didn't leak content. Either way, I was kind of stupid there.
But myg0t hacking Axel hacking Valve? that's a lot of hacks. 2003 must've been crazy.
[QUOTE=BuTou;53168910]There is something better. A drawing of a model.
[IMG]https://pp.userapi.com/c824500/v824500362/d6b3b/bevAPWnbh48.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://pp.userapi.com/c636430/v636430131/36660/217Dt1pUtxg.jpg[/IMG]
(c) A-Shift[/QUOTE]
Hey that’s pretty good! Didn’t know those existed
I made some possing scenes based fron the Cut Content:
[IMG]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/929300896140898886/A438FC75C8DA765E233D5814938578F2CE10798B/[/IMG]
[IMG]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922547064141579488/32CAF9487DE095A464A96134121084BF4A335B12/[/IMG]
[IMG]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922547064141583441/8734612CBF9A61679C9BA1D0F2EB67B7449D832D/[/IMG]
[IMG]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922547064141585209/BC4449BE096C2D3FEB41C600E7318698BD4A39FD/[/IMG]
[IMG]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922547399904000857/363858B8BEE30AF27819A760375E5C5AB7F2E8F8/[/IMG]
[IMG]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922547399904002572/9B9FBC42063C8EBFCA4A17DFC52EDAC2969F2353/[/IMG]
Why is that zombie armed with a pistol?
[QUOTE=ProZak;53169062]Alex leaked the Half-Life 2 content, not the source code. The source code was leaked by a member of myg0t. Axel was hacked by a member of myg0t and that's how they got the source code and access to Valve.
I've been told it directly from Axel himself.[/QUOTE]
Not quite.
I've been digging through the research provided to me from James Watt's Archive and some info I've gathered from interviews with Axel.
This is the true timeline of the HL2 leak:
[B]May 2003[/B] - Axel chats it up with myg0t members, notably SourceX. They are developing botnet and game hacking tools together.
[B]June 2003[/B] - According to the FBI report, this is when Axel first entered Valve's network. Throughout the next 3 and a half months, Axel is downloading bits and pieces of the Half-Life 2 source code from Valve's network.
[B]September 2003[/B] - Around the 19th, Axel sends the HL2 source code (along with details of Valve's internal network and how to access it) to the myg0t member SourceX. SourceX promised not to send it to anybody, and to not leak it. ...Immediately, he does exactly that. He sends it to 9 other myg0t members, and THEY promise not to leak it. At the same time, SourceX downloads the playable beta, hl1ports, WC Mappack, etc. He sends it to the "chosen 9" members.
[B]September 30th 2003[/B] - myg0t member Hitman8 acquires the HL2 Source Code along with the playable beta from SourceX. He also promises not to leak it.
[B]October 1st 2003[/B] - Hitman8 uploads the HL2 Source Code to Usenet (exact board unknown, but probably alt.binaries.comp)
From here, the rest is history. I'm 95% sure that "ANON" (aka Osama Bin Leaker) was another one of the 9 myg0t members, but I don't know who.
I have the IRC logs, interview snippets, and files from the leaks themselves to back this all up.
The unused hostages in CS:GO look so low-res they could count as being from the 2003 leak
[IMG]https://tcrf.net/images/thumb/f/f3/Csgo_hostage1.png/600px-Csgo_hostage1.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Nextwizard;53172112]The unused hostages in CS:GO look so low-res they could count as being from the 2003 leak
[IMG]https://tcrf.net/images/thumb/f/f3/Csgo_hostage1.png/600px-Csgo_hostage1.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
They're imports from CSS with remade (and honestly much worse) facemaps.
[QUOTE=livelong;53172479]They're imports from CSS with remade (and honestly much worse) facemaps.[/QUOTE]
Should've specified, I meant the faces.
The rest of them look awful, here's some pictures.
[IMG]https://tcrf.net/images/thumb/d/da/Csgo_hostage2.png/600px-Csgo_hostage2.png[/IMG]
[IMG]https://tcrf.net/images/thumb/f/fc/Csgo_hostage3.png/600px-Csgo_hostage3.png[/IMG]
[IMG]https://tcrf.net/images/thumb/d/d9/Csgo_hostage4.png/600px-Csgo_hostage4.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=ProZak;53169029]Wrong. Axel did leak the content because the source code was already leaked. His copy of Team Fortress 2 and GoldSrc never made it to the internet.[/QUOTE]
What was in the GoldSource stuff? Didn't Deleted Scenes as well as everything else get leaked?
[QUOTE=Nextwizard;53172614]Should've specified, I meant the faces.
The rest of them look awful, here's some pictures.[/QUOTE]
They're actually fairly high res, here's Cohrt's facemap.
[t]https://i.imgur.com/I6U3CFg.png[/t]
They look pretty gross on the models themselves
[QUOTE][IMG]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922547399904002572/9B9FBC42063C8EBFCA4A17DFC52EDAC2969F2353/[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Where are the free tv's?
[T]https://i.imgur.com/Lv5t7Cb.png[/T]
Hey look it's that guy who doesn't work at Valve anymore
-EDIT-
Also Elena Mossman is getting close to done, needs vtas and some more work on her body, just wanted to keep all of you up to date.
[QUOTE=CryoDragon;53173556]They're actually fairly high res, here's Cohrt's facemap.
[t]https://i.imgur.com/I6U3CFg.png[/t]
They look pretty gross on the models themselves[/QUOTE]
They look soo low res on the model becouse the models face is lowpoly so the facemap cant properly show its detail
[QUOTE=Nbc66;53176195]They look soo low res on the model becouse the models face is lowpoly so the facemap cant properly show its detail[/QUOTE]
I also think that there are no normal maps so even more details get lost
I would like to share some discoveries I made in last 2 mounts. In short - I believe HD models of gravity gun and dog, and recent appearance of HEV suit in Final Fantasy is related to making of collectibles.
Let's start with gravity gun. I dunno why this picture isn't more widespread, but it absolutely should.
[IMG]http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6045/6330871106_c5bab1da8d_z.jpg[/IMG]
But it isn't the most interesting part about it. This exact picture is coming from VolPin, who is a prop maker. It was posted first on [URL="https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=131892"]this therpf.com thread[/URL] in November of 2011, where he stated the following:
[QUOTE]I had a chance to visit Valve a year ago, and spoke with one of their lead designers who really wants to see this thing made. To that end, he provided me with an excellent 3D model that he had made personally, which shows the gun in all its detailed glory. With this in hand, I could finally start my project (before anyone asks; I'm sorry but I do not have permission to distribute this file or post any higher-resolution imagery)
[/QUOTE]
Also on [URL="http://volpinprops.blogspot.ru/2012/01/half-life-2-gravity-gun.html"]his personal blog[/URL] in 2012 he shared a little bit more info:
[QUOTE]While I was there, I met one of their designers named Tristan Reidford who had been working on his own very detailed model of the Gravity Gun. He gave me a copy of the files to work with, and now I had the best blueprints I could possibly hope for![/QUOTE]
This exact model on picture will be lately used by NECA, to make their gravity gun prop, that was released in 2012.
[IMG]https://igrasan.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/gravity-gun.jpg[/IMG]
There are differencies between model from 2011 and NECAs prop form 2012. I believe most of them are results of cutting corners for mass production.
There are some mockups on the internet, that was used as promotion for NECAs prop, which are just a renders of model above.
[IMG]https://http2.mlstatic.com/half-life-2-zero-point-energy-field-gravity-gun-replica-D_NQ_NP_10990-MLB20036419915_012014-F.jpg[/IMG]
But also, some per-pruduction renders exists, labeled as "digitally colored model"
[IMG]http://puu.sh/zBy1V/ac36a752df.jpg[/IMG]
As you can see, it's much more close to released prop and lack some features here and there.
Also, this model of gravity gun used to make tiny gravity gun for Freeman figurine from NECA, released in 2012.
[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/q8oAAOSwL1ZaGPSv/s-l500.jpg[/IMG]
And you guessed correctly, this Freeman figurine is using same HD model of him, which is now used in Final Fantasy.
[IMG]https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10276423/FFXVWE_steam_bonus_beauty_shot.png[/IMG]
It's the same model down to tiny details, except collar.
And now Dog model, which was leaked in august of 2015.
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/bGPnx9i.jpg[/IMG]
But a little earlier in march 2015, figurine makers 3A (makers of portal 2 atlas and p-body figures) teased their new work from Ashley Wood - Dog figure
[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZG7mnDFQ5HE/VPmpOu-7t4I/AAAAAAACDNA/sYKoeOb9V7w/s1600/dog.PNG[/IMG]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWZ47YMVAAETQXJ.png[/IMG]
And according to [URL="https://www.facebook.com/notes/3avox/sunday-qa-17-with-ashley-wood/497658587021157"]his Q&A[/URL] in January of 2014, he got the model above somewhere in the end of 2013/beginning of 2014
[QUOTE]Q: Since the early mention, I can't wait to see Gordon Freeman figure from Half-Life, what's its status at the moment ? Also is there a possibility that we could see Dog (Alyx's pet robot) ? It would be perfect for threeA engineering.
A: Well your gonna be happy , Gordon and Dog set is in the works, in fact our friends at Valve even sent details of a more detailed DOG, so the figure is quiet amazing and BIG![/QUOTE]
So, to sum up pic spam above - Valve has HD models of their own creations, which shouldn't be a surprise after raw sculpt of antlion guard from PelPix and detailed picture of crossbow from RtB. Probably some of them was created after ep2 for [I]further projects.[/I] So hey, HD models exists in a wild somewhere.
I tried to replicate the leak Combine voices and I think I've gotten pretty close. What do you guys think?
[url]https://vocaroo.com/i/s1ias9XXkl6u[/url]
[QUOTE=aibot_;53180275][IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/q8oAAOSwL1ZaGPSv/s-l500.jpg[/IMG]
And you guessed correctly, this Freeman figurine is using same HD model of him, which is now used in Final Fantasy.
[IMG]https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10276423/FFXVWE_steam_bonus_beauty_shot.png[/IMG]
It's the same model down to tiny details, except collar.[/QUOTE]
Those are definitely different models. The forearms, shins, fabrics, and the aforementioned collar are all different. It's more likely that they were both just given the same references to work with.
I guess it should be mentioned that Neca plans to re-release that Gordon figure together with [URL="http://necaonline.com/2012/11/portal-7-scale-action-figure-chell-case-6/"]Chell one[/URL] this year in May.
[URL="https://www.facebook.com/necaofficial/posts/1750837814978596"]Source[/URL]
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