VALVE CUT CONTENT V2+1: Digging through Valve's trash since 2003! - Games

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52027379]They're not evil.[/QUOTE] I have evidence to defend Valve; they were struggling with L4D2 when people rushed them to do it within a year, it scarred them pretty badly especially after the boycott despite the boatload of pre-orders. The Boycott group had their reasons, I presume.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52027379]They're not evil.[/QUOTE] They're not, but they do run their [I]multi million dollar company[/I] like a god damn lemonade stand, and it annoys the shit out of me.

[QUOTE=Kapul;52027433]Is there any chance to get this re-up? Thanks in advance[/QUOTE] We've got a bunch of mirrors up on the Discord, come and get it if you want. I would PM it to you, but you seem to have PMs disabled :s:

[QUOTE=bw1119;52027452]We've got a bunch of mirrors up on the Discord, come and get it if you want. I would PM it to you, but you seem to have PMs disabled :s:[/QUOTE] Oh Sh**t, I'm sorry, just enabled them now. I joined Discord, figuring out to get the files. Nevermind if you could sent via PM I'll be very grateful

Everything in this world is relatively. [B]A real story of creation Valve Software:[/B] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jvXNSN4.jpg[/IMG] Now think about it, even if they did not invent the name themselves. Who are they? [U]Outsourcing company[/U] engaged in smearing other people's ideas (fraud)? It turns out that this is what they want to hide their achievements, which are not them? Take thought. He is not Gaben (Он вам не Габен). See other competitors, study the well-founded history of setting up a company? Or there are no such coincidences?

So I joined the bandwagon of the leaked episode maps, and decided to go visgroup hunting to find anything we missed.[IMG]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/217104300420235264/295007789997228032/oldanthole.PNG[/IMG] [IMG]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/217104300420235264/295248108265406464/styleguide_miningold0000.jpg[/IMG] This was hiding in styleguide_mining. Also known as the early version of ep2_outland_iforgotthenumber

[QUOTE=That Robot;52027599]So I joined the bandwagon of the leaked episode maps, and decided to go visgroup hunting to find anything we missed. This was hiding in styleguide_mining. Also known as the early version of ep2_outland_iforgotthenumber[/QUOTE] Alright, but please fix this in future postings [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c637619/v637619812/348a4/37tlkKHub6E.jpg[/t] so it's like this [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c637619/v637619812/348ae/NxlUXINXgaQ.jpg[/t] (manifest tab is useless and doesn't work anyway) It triggers me have a good day

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52027515] He is not Gaben (Он вам не Габен). [/QUOTE] maybe he orders sneakers to his friends house as well. or perhaps half-life 3 is stashed at some charity foundation

[t]https://pp.userapi.com/c637619/v637619812/348a4/37tlkKHub6E.jpg[/t] Those textures... thats some real prototyping going on there. It looks like a huge kitchen or something.

[QUOTE=95Navigator;52027805][t]https://pp.userapi.com/c637619/v637619812/348a4/37tlkKHub6E.jpg[/t] Those textures... thats some real prototyping going on there. It looks like a huge kitchen or something.[/QUOTE] First thing it reminded me of was the tile Citadel.

[QUOTE=95Navigator;52027805]Those textures... thats some real prototyping going on there. It looks like a huge kitchen or something.[/QUOTE] Took me way too long to realize this is a prototype of the antlion arena

[QUOTE=95Navigator;52027805][t]https://pp.userapi.com/c637619/v637619812/348a4/37tlkKHub6E.jpg[/t] Those textures... thats some real prototyping going on there. It looks like a huge kitchen or something.[/QUOTE] I thuoght it was some HL2:DM map for a few seconds before realizing its the ant-arena.

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52027638]Alright, but please fix this in future postings [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c637619/v637619812/348a4/37tlkKHub6E.jpg[/t] so it's like this [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c637619/v637619812/348ae/NxlUXINXgaQ.jpg[/t] (manifest tab is useless and doesn't work anyway) It triggers me have a good day[/QUOTE] The nightmare isn't over. [t]http://i.imgur.com/6ecDDmD.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;52028331]Why am I not surprised :v:[/QUOTE] Playing the ol, Ignore it and it'll go away trick.

[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;52028331]Why am I not surprised :v:[/QUOTE] See, you have to play their childish games on their level. Open a steam support ticket and say "Don't say anything within the next, like, two weeks if you grant me express rights to all Valve IP's." Screenshot it and reply to all further cease and desist emails from Valve with it e: Or just don't reply for two weeks and then reply with a random help article from steam support I like that one better

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52027638]robot is super cool and his hammer settings are perfect he is a perfect human being[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=tundracool;52028291]reeeeeeeee[/QUOTE] Everyone's a critic, sheesh

[QUOTE=That Robot;52028472]robot... is a perfect human being[/QUOTE] But...

[QUOTE=glitchvid;52026949]Whoever is facing the legal pressure via E-mail should Forward/CC replies to Gaben, at the very least it's a direct way of letting Valve know this isn't OK.[/QUOTE] What isn't OK? This is all Valve's property and it was leaked without permission, it's absolutely fine for them to do this.

[QUOTE=t h e;52028543]What isn't OK? This is all Valve's property and it was leaked without permission, it's absolutely fine for them to do this.[/QUOTE] >Someone who gets it

[QUOTE=t h e;52028543]What isn't OK? This is all Valve's property and it was leaked without permission, it's absolutely fine for them to do this.[/QUOTE] This here. They need to protect their property.

[QUOTE=t h e;52028543]What isn't OK? This is all Valve's property and it was leaked without permission, it's absolutely fine for them to do this.[/QUOTE] The VA had other stuff that wasn't their property. Articles, footage. Not property. Now we don't have access to any of it. Remember how the first time, with Mega, they asked to remove only certain files, but the rest was ok to keep? Now they went farther and demanded we give up on anything. This certainly looks like they lack any consideration for the fans. Which goes against their claims of always caring about the consumers and fans above all else.

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52028933]The VA had other stuff that wasn't their property. Articles, footage. Not property. Now we don't have access to any of it. [/QUOTE] They closed down, because 40 of 59 GB had an C&D on it, so they said, that it isnt worth while to call it an archive anymore. [QUOTE=x8BitRain;52026154][..]They wanted the largest part of the archive taken down (40GB of the 59GB) and without that there's not much point in calling it an archive anymore if half of it is missing. We don't want any legal trouble with Valve so this is the best course of action for both of us.The majority of [B]the[/B] "legal" [B]stuff will end up on archive.org eventually[/B] [..][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=t h e;52028543]What isn't OK? This is all Valve's property and it was leaked without permission, it's absolutely fine for them to do this.[/QUOTE] Not "All of it", a significant portion of it was articles, press releases, and other totally fair-game data for public archival. More specifically what's not "Ok" about this is how Valve has gone about it. Valve is totally in the legal clear to take down that stuff; But they'd also have a legitimate suite against SteamDB for trademark infringement and possible brand-harm, an easy case made with how many people mistake the @SteamDB account for Steam or its support, [I]but does that make it "Ok"?[/I] These leaks (Sans the Junction-Point part, because that is tied up in another studio) don't hurt Valve in any monetary sense, just because a group of people have the VMFs for HL2:EP2 doesn't mean HL2:EP2 isn't going to sell as much; this shit is pretty niche and basically only effects this small community, and whoever at Valve made the asset. Valve of old used at least be consistently ~Meh ok~ about copyright, I mean hell look at the TF2 "Meet The Team" titlecards, [URL="https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/75/PyroVidSplash.png"]copyright LOLOLOL[/URL]; but this aggressiveness is new, especially for such a tired IP.

[QUOTE=95Navigator;52027805][t]https://pp.userapi.com/c637619/v637619812/348a4/37tlkKHub6E.jpg[/t] Those textures... thats some real prototyping going on there. It looks like a huge kitchen or something.[/QUOTE] Reminds me of Mega City One

[QUOTE=glitchvid;52029085]Not "All of it", a significant portion of it was articles, press releases, and other totally fair-game data for public archival. More specifically what's not "Ok" about this is how Valve has gone about it. Valve is totally in the legal clear to take down that stuff; But they'd also have a legitimate suite against SteamDB for trademark infringement and possible brand-harm, an easy case made with how many people mistake the @SteamDB account for Steam or its support, [I]but does that make it "Ok"?[/I] These leaks (Sans the Junction-Point part, because that is tied up in another studio) don't hurt Valve in any monetary sense, just because a group of people have the VMFs for HL2:EP2 doesn't mean HL2:EP2 isn't going to sell as much; this shit is pretty niche and basically only effects this small community, and whoever at Valve made the asset. Valve of old used at least be consistently ~Meh ok~ about copyright, I mean hell look at the TF2 "Meet The Team" titlecards, [URL="https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/75/PyroVidSplash.png"]copyright LOLOLOL[/URL]; but this aggressiveness is new, especially for such a tired IP.[/QUOTE] Like said previously, Liam only asked Jack to take down the Files & Builds part of the archive.

[QUOTE=Kapul;52027433]Is there any chance to get this re-up? Thanks in advance[/QUOTE] [url]http://talonbrave.info/files/software/games/halflife_2/unsorted/ep1-ep2-lc-VMF-protomaps.7z[/url]

[QUOTE=glitchvid;52029085]Valve of old used at least be consistently ~Meh ok~ about copyright, I mean hell look at the TF2 "Meet The Team" titlecards, [URL="https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/75/PyroVidSplash.png"]copyright LOLOLOL[/URL]; but this aggressiveness is new, especially for such a tired IP.[/QUOTE] Perhaps Valve's either becoming more legally aggressive after getting involved in legal issues in recent history (like with the whole CS:GO gambling fiasco), or perhaps they've got some sort of HL-related title or titles (not HL3, mind you- I'm thinking more of like an HL-universe tech demo game similar to Lost Coast or VR title) in active development that they're trying to keep under wraps.

[QUOTE=gmadador;52029186]Like said previously, Liam only asked Jack to take down the Files & Builds part of the archive.[/QUOTE] After obviously not even looking into it. The folder was full of stuff what was either legal to be shared (legitimate Pelpix leaks, well, at least it was claimed those were ok to go), or not even leaks but archived content, such as Worldcraft versions or HL ports and various alphas and betas (e. g. Steam VR Perf test). Now this is gone because the legal department doesn't care, doesn't even know what those files are, they are the corporation's blunt tool of enforcement and did not act selectively and with consideration.

Snip, read him wrong.

My two cents on the whole situation... I don't know what exactly has been said, besides the email that has been shown, but it does seem that the email was incredibly vague on what exactly needed to be removed. Further clarification should have been gained before taking any further action, especially given that it was not a formal request. Immediately taking everything down from the website appears to have been a knee-jerk reaction. It's a good example why such valuable content shouldn't all be hosted in just one place and should instead be mirrored by a number of other sources. It does surprise me that Valve have shown an interest in this but given the [URL="https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiQtunn4vzSAhWEDcAKHeRFCZwQqQIIGigAMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.polygon.com%2F2017%2F3%2F28%2F15077746%2Fhalf-life-2-maps-leak-warren-spector-episode-three&usg=AFQjCNEDIawcNHfcprTsIAOQmKR4ZS_usw&sig2=9BTvZPWma-lBxevCmrwM_Q&bvm=bv.151325232,d.d24"]number[/URL] of [URL="https://zerolives.com/article/i0Hmydd2/new-screenshots-reportedly-show-map-of-cancelled-half-life-2-episodic-content"]different[/URL] articles [URL="http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/half-life-2-episode-3-map-leaked-1674091"]that[/URL] have [URL="http://www.idigitaltimes.com/half-life-2-episode-3-maps-leak-would-have-returned-ravenholm-591229"]sprung[/URL] up [URL="http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/unreleased-halflife-2-episode-three-map-published-by-anonymous-leaker-39923"]about[/URL] this recent leak... Unfortunately news spreads pretty quickly these days.