VALVE CUT CONTENT V2+1: Digging through Valve's trash since 2003!

[B.J.]

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[Cvoxalury]

[QUOTE=Chrille;52386044]How to be a dickhead, lesson #1[/QUOTE]

I have no reason to be kind towards that character. So I wasn't. He wasn't doing me a favour but kinda the opposite of that. And since what I said was true (the original was made worse), why would I try to wrap it in a nice package? That would only be hypocritical and thus more dickish.

[editline]21st June 2017[/editline]

[QUOTE=95Navigator;52386127]One with this attitude almost questions why bother to expand the Beta community at all.

If were going to act like this, we might as well change our name to /beta and start calling each other normies.[/QUOTE]

A, I'm doing this for myself and my friends. B, I have very tightly controlled lighting on my levels (probably my biggest thing with this mod) so I don't take kindly to others messing with that. So basically, I decided to cheer people up and show how the mod isn't dead and all, and what I get is someone takes my stuff and immediately makes it worse. And I'm the dickhead. That's some neat magic!

[Heraldo the Duck]

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52387031]So basically, I decided to cheer people up and show how the mod isn't dead and all, and what I get is someone takes my stuff and immediately makes it worse. And I'm the dickhead. That's some neat magic![/QUOTE]

Yes, because there is no reason at all for you being rude towards him. He just edited an image you posted and shared as an opinion of what it could make it look better on his perspective, which a lot of people didn't agree with but they didn't go all being a dick towards him.

He didn't steal or did anything bad towards you and your work that would be prejudicial , he only shared an opinion, you can disagree about it but it's not necessary for you being ignorant as you did otherwise it's only going to make it worse towards you

[95Navigator]

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52387031]I have no reason to be kind towards that character. So I wasn't. He wasn't doing me a favour but kinda the opposite of that. And since what I said was true (the original was made worse), why would I try to wrap it in a nice package? That would only be hypocritical and thus more dickish.

[editline]21st June 2017[/editline]

A, I'm doing this for myself and my friends. B, I have very tightly controlled lighting on my levels (probably my biggest thing with this mod) so I don't take kindly to others messing with that. So basically, I decided to cheer people up and show how the mod isn't dead and all, and what I get is someone takes my stuff and immediately makes it worse. And I'm the dickhead. That's some neat magic![/QUOTE]

The guy took time of his own life to take your creation, which he liked, and try to put a different spin on it. To see others liking your work and trying to do their own take with it... i can hardly find something greater than that as a modder.

But all you manage to say is "hurr durr look at these gaming cliches i despise wow all of you bow to my supreme non-plebeian taste in game design". At least you could give constructive feedback, pointing out why you didnt like it.

Is it so hard to understand the more new people come in, the more chance we have in seeing quality work in the future? Being automatically rude to them doesnt help at all!

[Cvoxalury]

[QUOTE=KayoDuck;52387069]Yes, because there is no reason at all for you being rude towards him. He just edited an image you posted and shared as an opinion of what it could make it look better on his perspective, which a lot of people didn't agree with but they didn't go all being a dick towards him.

He didn't steal or did anything bad towards you and your work that would be prejudicial , he only shared an opinion, you can disagree about it but it's not necessary for you being ignorant as you did otherwise it's only going to make it worse towards you[/QUOTE]

People didn't openly say what they thought (the ones who didn't like it) because it's a common rule to be polite. A common morality. I'm an amoral egoist so there's that. Also, people (well, one person so far) were more rude towars me than I was towards BetaMan. Try and read my post back there. I only said, quote, that he was making it worse (which is factual and I can explain why) and it now looked like something else and asked him to stop. Even said 'please' which is a polite word. So you really can't say I was rude towards him. But people are being rude towards me, and expect me to then maintain the community and respect others. I say, if you really do like that second version, you don't need my version. Goodbye.

[Tuskin]

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52387107](which is factual and I can explain why)[/QUOTE]

No, it is an opinion. Something can't look better factually, because something looking good is a matter of opinion.

I think yours looks better. That is an opinion, not a fact.

[Heraldo the Duck]

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52387107]People didn't openly say what they thought (the ones who didn't like it) because it's a common rule to be polite. A common morality. I'm an amoral egoist so there's that. [/QUOTE]

First: People rated disagreeing on the post and some people posted about why they didn't liked and they were all polite on their posts so yeah, people shared their opinions and not being rude.

[quote] Try and read my post back there. I only said, quote, that he was making it worse (which is factual and I can explain why) and it now looked like something else and asked him to stop. Even said 'please' which is a polite word. So you really can't say I was rude towards him.[/quote]

Second: No, it's not a fact, it's an opinion and no, just because you said "Please" doesn't make it more polite, i mean look on what you said before all this, what you could have responded is "No dude, it's because it's way saturated" and that's it, no need for a "Yeah, nice job ruining someone's work dude, keep going".

[quote]But people are being rude towards me, and expect me to then maintain the community and respect others. I say, if you really do like that second version, you don't need my version. Goodbye.[/quote]

Nobody was rude towards, just pointed out that [B][U]you[/U][/B] were rude for no reason. No, i didn't liked his version because it's way too much saturated, makes my eye hurt a little and what? It's like you can't take opinions towards your work, is your vision/opinion and that's it, fuck the rest

[🦇Pachira🦇]

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52387031]I have no reason to be kind towards that character. So I wasn't. He wasn't doing me a favour but kinda the opposite of that. And since what I said was true (the original was made worse), why would I try to wrap it in a nice package? That would only be hypocritical and thus more dickish.

[editline]21st June 2017[/editline]

A, I'm doing this for myself and my friends. B, I have very tightly controlled lighting on my levels (probably my biggest thing with this mod) so I don't take kindly to others messing with that. So basically, I decided to cheer people up and show how the mod isn't dead and all, and what I get is someone takes my stuff and immediately makes it worse. And I'm the dickhead. That's some neat magic![/QUOTE]

Oh no a guy photoshopped my picture.

[gk99]

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52387107]Even said 'please' which is a polite word.[/QUOTE]

What a great argument, let's try this out:

"Please go fuck yourself."

Looking at that sentence, you'd think it sounds rude, but never fear, it has the word [I][B][U]please[/U][/B][/I]! That makes it all better, doesn't it? :rolleyes:

[Splendor Sol]

Hello.

[PCF13]

[QUOTE=Splendor Sol;52387772]Hello.[/QUOTE]

Hello, friend.

[editline]21st June 2017[/editline]

[QUOTE=Cvoxalury;52387107]People didn't openly say what they thought (the ones who didn't like it) because it's a common rule to be polite. A common morality. I'm an amoral egoist so there's that. Also, people (well, one person so far) were more rude towars me than I was towards BetaMan. Try and read my post back there. I only said, quote, that he was making it worse (which is factual and I can explain why) and it now looked like something else and asked him to stop. Even said 'please' which is a polite word. So you really can't say I was rude towards him. But people are being rude towards me, and expect me to then maintain the community and respect others. I say, if you really do like that second version, you don't need my version. Goodbye.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I think you are a great modder and you have tons of talent, not to mention that DI is a fantastic piece of work. But, to be fair, you do come off as a dick when addressing that image. I didn't like it either, but you didn't offer anything constructive, or any suggestions to help him improve his work. I don't have any beef against you, as I said, I think your modding resume is great, but you need to improve how to come off towards others.

[WhyNott]

What the hell does "amoral egoist" even mean, are you a LaVeyan satanist

[Loli Lover]

[QUOTE=WhyNott;52389049]What the hell does "amoral egoist" even mean, are you a LaVeyan satanist[/QUOTE]

couldnt help but imagine that caricature of a neckbeard when he said that

[QWERTERBERY]

People do not care what you're doing. Still surprised and crying, why is there no normal mods and projects on revival of a beta-versions of games. The reason is the usual audience, they wait for you to be transferred to the registry office, children, grandchildren too.

You are hoping for something that is designed for a creative person, I'm sure the opposite, everything is arranged against you, no one here perceives you, well, if taken seriously, only at the level of dirty crack and pinned over you. As a naive girl you are led to a provocation. What ends sadly?

For many it's not even a hobby, not a job, and not the main purpose of his life in the virtual world. Only fun, amusement, lark, a digital drug without which you can not live, even seconds. If this were not for us, we would live an exciting things era on which really interesting projects, games, consoles were created. Which gave a much thoughtful plot and philosophy?

What do we get now, just for money. Is the question ready to personally contain the money of developers and publishers? Many bosses understand when invested or not. Choose the path that is interesting to the consumer, society, they do not care about personalities.

You are slaves, not some liberators, you were deceived by a not free person, you are hostages of those people who have something for you that can not be drained in the real world or the future, because the technologies will develop and your loved ones games, programs, operation systems, consoles will not be noticeable, the next ten in general will refuse architecture similar to IBM.

Your expensive video-cards (4-way CrossfireX/SLI), more RAM, more GHz, more space HDD/SDD, more resolution your monitors, clever servers will not be necessary to anyone and are interesting. So live the present. Enjoy what is, do not chase the beauty, the prospect, godhood.

Try to understand that nothing in this world is eternal. But try to understand others, then you will understand what the problem of mankind is. MISCONCEPTIONS!!!

[PCF13]

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52389893]People do not care what you're doing. Still surprised and crying, why is there no normal mods and projects on revival of a beta-versions of games. The reason is the usual audience, they wait for you to be transferred to the registry office, children, grandchildren too.

You are hoping for something that is designed for a creative person, I'm sure the opposite, everything is arranged against you, no one here perceives you, well, if taken seriously, only at the level of dirty crack and pinned over you. As a naive girl you are led to a provocation. What ends sadly?

For many it's not even a hobby, not a job, and not the main purpose of his life in the virtual world. Only fun, amusement, lark, a digital drug without which you can not live, even seconds. If this were not for us, we would live an exciting things era on which really interesting projects, games, consoles were created. Which gave a much thoughtful plot and philosophy?

What do we get now, just for money. Is the question ready to personally contain the money of developers and publishers? Many bosses understand when invested or not. Choose the path that is interesting to the consumer, society, they do not care about personalities.

You are slaves, not some liberators, you were deceived by a not free person, you are hostages of those people who have something for you that can not be drained in the real world or the future, because the technologies will develop and your loved ones games, programs, operation systems, consoles will not be noticeable, the next ten in general will refuse architecture similar to IBM.

Your expensive video-cards (4-way CrossfireX/SLI), more RAM, more GHz, more space HDD/SDD, more resolution your monitors, clever servers will not be necessary to anyone and are interesting. So live the present. Enjoy what is, do not chase the beauty, the prospect, godhood.

Try to understand that nothing in this world is eternal. But try to understand others, then you will understand what the problem of mankind is. MISCONCEPTIONS!!![/QUOTE]

Holy Christ, you are the next Shakespeare.

[95Navigator]

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52389893]People do not care what you're doing. Still surprised and crying, why is there no normal mods and projects on revival of a beta-versions of games. The reason is the usual audience, they wait for you to be transferred to the registry office, children, grandchildren too.

You are hoping for something that is designed for a creative person, I'm sure the opposite, everything is arranged against you, no one here perceives you, well, if taken seriously, only at the level of dirty crack and pinned over you. As a naive girl you are led to a provocation. What ends sadly?

For many it's not even a hobby, not a job, and not the main purpose of his life in the virtual world. Only fun, amusement, lark, a digital drug without which you can not live, even seconds. If this were not for us, we would live an exciting things era on which really interesting projects, games, consoles were created. Which gave a much thoughtful plot and philosophy?

What do we get now, just for money. Is the question ready to personally contain the money of developers and publishers? Many bosses understand when invested or not. Choose the path that is interesting to the consumer, society, they do not care about personalities.

You are slaves, not some liberators, you were deceived by a not free person, you are hostages of those people who have something for you that can not be drained in the real world or the future, because the technologies will develop and your loved ones games, programs, operation systems, consoles will not be noticeable, the next ten in general will refuse architecture similar to IBM.

Your expensive video-cards (4-way CrossfireX/SLI), more RAM, more GHz, more space HDD/SDD, more resolution your monitors, clever servers will not be necessary to anyone and are interesting. So live the present. Enjoy what is, do not chase the beauty, the prospect, godhood.

Try to understand that nothing in this world is eternal. But try to understand others, then you will understand what the problem of mankind is. MISCONCEPTIONS!!![/QUOTE]

I have no fucking idea what you just said but it sounded so inspirational and powerful Ill just happily go with it.

ehh... CHASE BEAUTY, ENJOY LIFE! YEA!

[Kyle v2]

[I]Tinder, his arms are open.[/I]

[Loli Lover]

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52389893]People do not care what you're doing. Still surprised and crying, why is there no normal mods and projects on revival of a beta-versions of games. The reason is the usual audience, they wait for you to be transferred to the registry office, children, grandchildren too.

You are hoping for something that is designed for a creative person, I'm sure the opposite, everything is arranged against you, no one here perceives you, well, if taken seriously, only at the level of dirty crack and pinned over you. As a naive girl you are led to a provocation. What ends sadly?

For many it's not even a hobby, not a job, and not the main purpose of his life in the virtual world. Only fun, amusement, lark, a digital drug without which you can not live, even seconds. If this were not for us, we would live an exciting things era on which really interesting projects, games, consoles were created. Which gave a much thoughtful plot and philosophy?

What do we get now, just for money. Is the question ready to personally contain the money of developers and publishers? Many bosses understand when invested or not. Choose the path that is interesting to the consumer, society, they do not care about personalities.

You are slaves, not some liberators, you were deceived by a not free person, you are hostages of those people who have something for you that can not be drained in the real world or the future, because the technologies will develop and your loved ones games, programs, operation systems, consoles will not be noticeable, the next ten in general will refuse architecture similar to IBM.

Your expensive video-cards (4-way CrossfireX/SLI), more RAM, more GHz, more space HDD/SDD, more resolution your monitors, clever servers will not be necessary to anyone and are interesting. So live the present. Enjoy what is, do not chase the beauty, the prospect, godhood.

Try to understand that nothing in this world is eternal. But try to understand others, then you will understand what the problem of mankind is. MISCONCEPTIONS!!![/QUOTE]

You went from gibberish to Shakespeare

[Sergeant Stacker]

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52389893]People do not care what you're doing. Still surprised and crying, why is there no normal mods and projects on revival of a beta-versions of games. The reason is the usual audience, they wait for you to be transferred to the registry office, children, grandchildren too.

You are hoping for something that is designed for a creative person, I'm sure the opposite, everything is arranged against you, no one here perceives you, well, if taken seriously, only at the level of dirty crack and pinned over you. As a naive girl you are led to a provocation. What ends sadly?

For many it's not even a hobby, not a job, and not the main purpose of his life in the virtual world. Only fun, amusement, lark, a digital drug without which you can not live, even seconds. If this were not for us, we would live an exciting things era on which really interesting projects, games, consoles were created. Which gave a much thoughtful plot and philosophy?

What do we get now, just for money. Is the question ready to personally contain the money of developers and publishers? Many bosses understand when invested or not. Choose the path that is interesting to the consumer, society, they do not care about personalities.

You are slaves, not some liberators, you were deceived by a not free person, you are hostages of those people who have something for you that can not be drained in the real world or the future, because the technologies will develop and your loved ones games, programs, operation systems, consoles will not be noticeable, the next ten in general will refuse architecture similar to IBM.

Your expensive video-cards (4-way CrossfireX/SLI), more RAM, more GHz, more space HDD/SDD, more resolution your monitors, clever servers will not be necessary to anyone and are interesting. So live the present. Enjoy what is, do not chase the beauty, the prospect, godhood.

Try to understand that nothing in this world is eternal. But try to understand others, then you will understand what the problem of mankind is. MISCONCEPTIONS!!![/QUOTE]

Best post in this thread hands down

[LambdaCore]

Holy shit, what a comeback

[CaptainZed]

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52389893]People do not care what you're doing. Still surprised and crying, why is there no normal mods and projects on revival of a beta-versions of games. The reason is the usual audience, they wait for you to be transferred to the registry office, children, grandchildren too.

You are hoping for something that is designed for a creative person, I'm sure the opposite, everything is arranged against you, no one here perceives you, well, if taken seriously, only at the level of dirty crack and pinned over you. As a naive girl you are led to a provocation. What ends sadly?

For many it's not even a hobby, not a job, and not the main purpose of his life in the virtual world. Only fun, amusement, lark, a digital drug without which you can not live, even seconds. If this were not for us, we would live an exciting things era on which really interesting projects, games, consoles were created. Which gave a much thoughtful plot and philosophy?

What do we get now, just for money. Is the question ready to personally contain the money of developers and publishers? Many bosses understand when invested or not. Choose the path that is interesting to the consumer, society, they do not care about personalities.

You are slaves, not some liberators, you were deceived by a not free person, you are hostages of those people who have something for you that can not be drained in the real world or the future, because the technologies will develop and your loved ones games, programs, operation systems, consoles will not be noticeable, the next ten in general will refuse architecture similar to IBM.

Your expensive video-cards (4-way CrossfireX/SLI), more RAM, more GHz, more space HDD/SDD, more resolution your monitors, clever servers will not be necessary to anyone and are interesting. So live the present. Enjoy what is, do not chase the beauty, the prospect, godhood.

Try to understand that nothing in this world is eternal. But try to understand others, then you will understand what the problem of mankind is. MISCONCEPTIONS!!![/QUOTE]

Written as beautifully as ever, our grand wordsmith. Keep going with your Shakespearean beta writings, our friend!

[Gufu]

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52389893]Try to understand that nothing in this world is eternal. But try to understand others, then you will understand what the problem of mankind is. MISCONCEPTIONS!!![/QUOTE]

So, does this confirm that QWERTERBERY is actually an AI that just gained sentience, or what?

[LambdaCore]

It's more likely he gained access to english grammar pdfs

[CheezMan]

[QUOTE=LambdaCore 21;52390981]It's more likely he gained access to english grammar pdfs[/QUOTE]

I feel that he is a mix of both that and a pokedex, except for valve related stuff

[Amez]

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52389893]People do not care what you're doing. Still surprised and crying, why is there no normal mods and projects on revival of a beta-versions of games. The reason is the usual audience, they wait for you to be transferred to the registry office, children, grandchildren too.

You are hoping for something that is designed for a creative person, I'm sure the opposite, everything is arranged against you, no one here perceives you, well, if taken seriously, only at the level of dirty crack and pinned over you. As a naive girl you are led to a provocation. What ends sadly?

For many it's not even a hobby, not a job, and not the main purpose of his life in the virtual world. Only fun, amusement, lark, a digital drug without which you can not live, even seconds. If this were not for us, we would live an exciting things era on which really interesting projects, games, consoles were created. Which gave a much thoughtful plot and philosophy?

What do we get now, just for money. Is the question ready to personally contain the money of developers and publishers? Many bosses understand when invested or not. Choose the path that is interesting to the consumer, society, they do not care about personalities.

You are slaves, not some liberators, you were deceived by a not free person, you are hostages of those people who have something for you that can not be drained in the real world or the future, because the technologies will develop and your loved ones games, programs, operation systems, consoles will not be noticeable, the next ten in general will refuse architecture similar to IBM.

Your expensive video-cards (4-way CrossfireX/SLI), more RAM, more GHz, more space HDD/SDD, more resolution your monitors, clever servers will not be necessary to anyone and are interesting. So live the present. Enjoy what is, do not chase the beauty, the prospect, godhood.

Try to understand that nothing in this world is eternal. But try to understand others, then you will understand what the problem of mankind is. MISCONCEPTIONS!!![/QUOTE]

I can't help but feel moved yet to some degree confused. Beautiful.

[95Navigator]

[QUOTE=Amez;52393234]I can't help but feel moved yet to some degree confused. Beautiful.[/QUOTE]

Its okay, true art does that.

[QWERTERBERY]

Thank you all for the flattering reviews.

The world i wanted to live has collapsed for 24 years. Spent the whole years slaving. Lost everything i could and did not want. I was really hurt, mentally, morality, physically, karmically. Can all this be called life or not? Hard question. But i really wanted to put the level above all other projects and mods.

Issue in batches of mods for one year, roughly three hundred fifty sixth small-scale projects. This was the my real plan, which was registered on a well-known Australian site and oversees all (i felt like i did). Then to register this world record and take money, then I would go buy rights to some forgotten and not released AAA-projects games to revive their original appearance. For example, Call of Cthulhu: Destiny’s End (2005), quite an interesting project, but not lucky with the name and game setting, the rest would have turned out to be an excellent heir Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare.

The current industry has huge problems. There are not games themselves, but their implementation and transfer to the engine. The same thing happened before, but offset by the limitation of hw and sw. But such times have passed, we have a yard in 2017. Concepts, ideas, plot, game mechanics are changing, only the functioning engines do not change (not API). It's like an old time dragging the most difficult work (create a structure that connects with all). There is no convenient friendly interface to normally create a game, you have to spend a lot of time, though somehow working and giving out something.

Do you want to create a normal, create for the old generations and gradually moves to a new one, then to the next-gen. Only then will the project be referred to as the soul, the atmosphere and appeal (replayability), even years later. It's like any living thing.

Even the most famous and popular engines are often not allowed to be realized. So think about it.

[ChubbyDash]

[QUOTE=QWERTERBERY;52393714]Thank you all for the flattering reviews.

The world i wanted to live has collapsed for 24 years. Spent the whole years slaving. Lost everything i could and did not want. I was really hurt, mentally, morality, physically, karmically. Can all this be called life or not? Hard question. But i really wanted to put the level above all other projects and mods.

Issue in batches of mods for one year, roughly three hundred fifty sixth small-scale projects. This was the my real plan, which was registered on a well-known Australian site and oversees all (i felt like i did). Then to register this world record and take money, then I would go buy rights to some forgotten and not released AAA-projects games to revive their original appearance. For example, Call of Cthulhu: Destiny’s End (2005), quite an interesting project, but not lucky with the name and game setting, the rest would have turned out to be an excellent heir Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare.

The current industry has huge problems. There are not games themselves, but their implementation and transfer to the engine. The same thing happened before, but offset by the limitation of hw and sw. But such times have passed, we have a yard in 2017. Concepts, ideas, plot, game mechanics are changing, only the functioning engines do not change (not API). It's like an old time dragging the most difficult work (create a structure that connects with all). There is no convenient friendly interface to normally create a game, you have to spend a lot of time, though somehow working and giving out something.

Do you want to create a normal, create for the old generations and gradually moves to a new one, then to the next-gen. Only then will the project be referred to as the soul, the atmosphere and appeal (replayability), even years later. It's like any living thing.

Even the most famous and popular engines are often not allowed to be realized. So think about it.[/QUOTE]

can i get a tl;dr

[DoktorAkcel]

It's like asking for a TLDR on classical literature.
It gives you the meaning, but not the satisfaction

[BlackSnow]

My only question is... Does this man use Google translate..?