VALVE CUT CONTENT V2+1: Digging through Valve's trash since 2003! - Games

[QUOTE=Dindex;51625318]The game started in develop in 1999, including the map. Just because it was in smartmap doesn't mean lorewise. In fact they might of testing launching the map without console. There's no evidence that there's maps took place after Hyperborea in 1999. Look let's just take this to PMs and no one knows including myself about either or not Hyperborea was ment to be the first starting map, we should just drop it.[/QUOTE] Mark stated on multiple occasions that at some point, the game would start near Borealis. Even RTB mentions this if I remember correctly. Why is this suddenly a discussion? [img]http://i.imgur.com/9QKWUv2.png[/img] There was no "lore" back then. It was all just a flow of ideas, daily, weekly. Some were only on paper, some were conceptualized, some were built and even playtested. But it was all just temporary, they were just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks. One of those turds was the hyperborea start, which stuck longer than, say, agent gordon escaping from MGS V intro.

In the last thread I asked if I should stay classic with the beta weapons, or add new models. Probably like 90% of people said new models... so that's what i've been working on. I've remade/found new/re-textured... etc... about half of the weapons so far, hopefully they look decent. Tell me what you think so far. [t]http://i.imgur.com/i3d4eGe.jpg[/t] The picture shows the Alyx Gun (pistol and smg modes), AR1, "Beta Shotgun" (Not really a beta anymore, looks better than the retail shotgun), Binoculars ( Same as missing information, except reanimated, nicer shading and slight texture change ), Flaregun (100% Reanimated), HMG1, Molotov, SMG2 (MP5K), SMG3 (MP7) If anyone finds a decent OICW, Combine Guard Gun, Beta Sniper Rifle, or Gauss Cannon model, please send it to me. Those weapons are nearly impossible to find updated models for.

I'm loving the MP5K and MP7.

[QUOTE=Battlepope98;51626230]In the last thread I asked if I should stay classic with the beta weapons, or add new models. Probably like 90% of people said new models... so that's what i've been working on. I've remade/found new/re-textured... etc... about half of the weapons so far, hopefully they look decent. Tell me what you think so far. [t]http://i.imgur.com/i3d4eGe.jpg[/t] The picture shows the Alyx Gun (pistol and smg modes), AR1, "Beta Shotgun" (Not really a beta anymore, looks better than the retail shotgun), Binoculars ( Same as missing information, except reanimated, nicer shading and slight texture change ), Flaregun (100% Reanimated), HMG1, Molotov, SMG2 (MP5K), SMG3 (MP7) If anyone finds a decent OICW, Combine Guard Gun, Beta Sniper Rifle, or Gauss Cannon model, please send it to me. Those weapons are nearly impossible to find updated models for.[/QUOTE] omg, that's so cool! I want that mp7 to be an SMG replacement for hl2 :cat:

[QUOTE=Spor;51626103]Mark stated on multiple occasions that at some point, the game would start near Borealis. Even RTB mentions this if I remember correctly. Why is this suddenly a discussion? [img]http://i.imgur.com/9QKWUv2.png[/img] There was no "lore" back then. It was all just a flow of ideas, daily, weekly. Some were only on paper, some were conceptualized, some were built and even playtested. But it was all just temporary, they were just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks. One of those turds was the hyperborea start, which stuck longer than, say, agent gordon escaping from MGS V intro.[/QUOTE] Wait, I thought that gordon was ment to be teleported into a hospital?

[QUOTE=Dindex;51627016]Wait, I thought that gordon was ment to be teleported into a hospital?[/QUOTE] That's an even earlier one. I think the Hyperborea-Start plot one is possibly the first one to be made into map form.

[QUOTE=Battlepope98;51626230]In the last thread I asked if I should stay classic with the beta weapons, or add new models. Probably like 90% of people said new models... so that's what i've been working on. I've remade/found new/re-textured... etc... about half of the weapons so far, hopefully they look decent. Tell me what you think so far. [t]http://i.imgur.com/i3d4eGe.jpg[/t] The picture shows the Alyx Gun (pistol and smg modes), AR1, "Beta Shotgun" (Not really a beta anymore, looks better than the retail shotgun), Binoculars ( Same as missing information, except reanimated, nicer shading and slight texture change ), Flaregun (100% Reanimated), HMG1, Molotov, SMG2 (MP5K), SMG3 (MP7) If anyone finds a decent OICW, Combine Guard Gun, Beta Sniper Rifle, or Gauss Cannon model, please send it to me. Those weapons are nearly impossible to find updated models for.[/QUOTE] Those look great! I think I'd tone down the phong on some of them though, the shotgun and AK in particular. Maybe it's the map that's making them shine so bright? I can see some issue with the normal on the Alyx gun (that bit where the phong cuts across it in a diagonal line) If you're looking for a 'decent' Sniper Rifle I did a sort of redux a while back. This is with re-baked higher resolution maps and a few added bits of geometry. [img]https://puu.sh/pUIQG/2e4cd795d2.png[/img]

I kinda like the idea of Gordon starting in the Arctic and getting onto the Hyperborea, would make for a cool mod if well-executed too.

-snip, because I was impatient at first-

[QUOTE=DraX;51582737]Did anyone save a copy of the original day of defeat source alpha? Where they basically ported the original dod into source.[/QUOTE] So did anyone? I feel like a bunch of people in the Day of Defeat community got early access but they don't seem like the types to share.

[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;51628661]This just makes me miss the MP5 in Half-Life and Counter-Strike. The HL2 MP7 makes no sense and the CS:GO MP7 looks a little too flimsy.[/QUOTE] Well, the MP7 in HL2 WAS based on the prototype version of the real life MP7.

[QUOTE=Gsilverleaf;51629147]Well, the MP7 in HL2 WAS based on the prototype version of the real life MP7.[/QUOTE] .. which was able to generate grenades out of thin air and then throw them at high velocities.

Yeah, the second barrel should be repurposed and made bigger and wider, so a grenade could actually come out it .

[QUOTE=gmadador;51629185].. which was able to generate grenades out of thin air and then throw them at [B]low[/B]velocities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Battlepope98;51626230]In the last thread I asked if I should stay classic with the beta weapons, or add new models. Probably like 90% of people said new models... so that's what i've been working on. I've remade/found new/re-textured... etc... about half of the weapons so far, hopefully they look decent. Tell me what you think so far. [t]http://i.imgur.com/i3d4eGe.jpg[/t] The picture shows the Alyx Gun (pistol and smg modes), AR1, "Beta Shotgun" (Not really a beta anymore, looks better than the retail shotgun), Binoculars ( Same as missing information, except reanimated, nicer shading and slight texture change ), Flaregun (100% Reanimated), HMG1, Molotov, SMG2 (MP5K), SMG3 (MP7) If anyone finds a decent OICW, Combine Guard Gun, Beta Sniper Rifle, or Gauss Cannon model, please send it to me. Those weapons are nearly impossible to find updated models for.[/QUOTE] HOLY SHIT. This looks amazing. I can't wait to have this. Will it be a separate mod or an update for the current one?

[QUOTE=Snood_1990;51627362]Those look great! I think I'd tone down the phong on some of them though, the shotgun and AK in particular. Maybe it's the map that's making them shine so bright? I can see some issue with the normal on the Alyx gun (that bit where the phong cuts across it in a diagonal line) If you're looking for a 'decent' Sniper Rifle I did a sort of redux a while back. This is with re-baked higher resolution maps and a few added bits of geometry. [img]https://puu.sh/pUIQG/2e4cd795d2.png[/img][/QUOTE] The AR1 is pretty bright, i'll tone it down. Unfortunatly its a model problem with the Alyx gun. I'm just using the best one I have, and that one is from SMOD. (I think) And yeah if you could send me that HD textured sniper that would be great. It'll be the best one I have currently. Actually I found some grizzly 50 cal CAD model somewhere online, but I don't have the program to convert it to a .obj unfortunatly. [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=OfficialPCF;51629400]HOLY SHIT. This looks amazing. I can't wait to have this. Will it be a separate mod or an update for the current one?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure, I haven't decided yet.

So I've been out of the loop for a while and have a few questions. There's a bunch of stuff in [url]https://valvearchive.btr.pm/archive/Game%20Files%20and%20Builds/2016%20Facepunch%20Leaks/[/url] - is it real or not? Apparently a beta Left 4 Dead mod and a beta Portal mod both got given beta assets which might then have been leaked out. Is that true and if it is, is the actual beta stuff available anywhere on its own or was it all just adapted into the mods? Bonus question - cs_arcticbiolab isn't in the 2003 leak but the map exists - did it come from the 2002 leak of Condition Zero?

[QUOTE=tschumann;51630477]So I've been out of the loop for a while and have a few questions. There's a bunch of stuff in [url]https://valvearchive.btr.pm/archive/Game%20Files%20and%20Builds/2016%20Facepunch%20Leaks/[/url] - is it real or not? Apparently a beta Left 4 Dead mod and a beta Portal mod both got given beta assets which might then have been leaked out. Is that true and if it is, is the actual beta stuff available anywhere on its own or was it all just adapted into the mods? Bonus question - cs_arcticbiolab isn't in the 2003 leak but the map exists - did it come from the 2002 leak of Condition Zero?[/QUOTE] Portal Beta and Left 4 Dead Beta stuff is legit, they were unfinished assets given by Valve to 2 development teams to be used in recreation mods but were unfortunately leaked by a couple of immature kids that had managed to get their hands on the unfinished builds.

[QUOTE=game hacker;51630504]Portal Beta and Left 4 Dead Beta stuff is legit, they were unfinished assets given by Valve to 2 development teams to be used in recreation mods but were unfortunately leaked by a couple of immature kids that had managed to get their hands on the unfinished builds.[/QUOTE] Really? I was thinking these sources were taken from third-party developers on Xbox ports. Plus, these children would carry quite adults uh... bicurious.

[QUOTE=Battlepope98;51629847]The AR1 is pretty bright, i'll tone it down. Unfortunatly its a model problem with the Alyx gun. I'm just using the best one I have, and that one is from SMOD. (I think) And yeah if you could send me that HD textured sniper that would be great. It'll be the best one I have currently. Actually I found some grizzly 50 cal CAD model somewhere online, but I don't have the program to convert it to a .obj unfortunatly. [editline]6th January 2017[/editline] I'm not sure, I haven't decided yet.[/QUOTE] Yeah add me on Steam I'll send it ya.

I've been away for a few weeks and just noticed the permalinks and the contact form on the Valve Archive were all fucked (403 forbidden/404) no idea how long that's been going on for but it's fixed now if anyone was experiencing problems. I think the vhost config for the archive got reset and didn't enable auto indexing on the archive files, not allowing anyone to view/download files. Sorry about that! Also, Jackathan has an interesting Gunman Chronicles page which is coming in the near future. We are still looking for anyone willing to host a mirror if anyone is interested, regular public cloud storage hosts don't offer the flexibility needed for this kind of archive. After someone DMCA'd the original mega.nz folder, sharing got all screwed up and became super limited. Google Drive handles files that have names like "Half.Life.2.Beta.HL2WCMaps-ANON.tar" as a virus or thinks it's illegal content and Dropbox/Drive will stop access to shared folders/files if they get too many views.

Welp, it started off as a fact-finding mission, and quickly went downhill: [url]https://twitter.com/marc_laidlaw/status/817440182114783232[/url]

[QUOTE=Snood_1990;51622438]I did one of those too! [t]https://puu.sh/p568o/5130250d03.png[/t] Are you re-uving yours?[/QUOTE] Are you going to try to hand paint the shine on it or rely on a phong or specular for it? Maybe even bake the reflections onto the model?

[QUOTE=Sally;51633350]Are you going to try to hand paint the shine on it or rely on a phong or specular for it? Maybe even bake the reflections onto the model?[/QUOTE] Nah I'll rely on the phong/spec for that.

Since I like the feedback I got from the last time I had a vote, here's another vote. Which beta sniper model should I use/ is the best? [t]http://i.imgur.com/ivEZ121.jpg[/t] Keep in mind the hand models are temporary, I'll change them out later. Rate Winner for 1. Rate Zing for 2. Rate Informative for 3.

[QUOTE=Battlepope98;51634386] [t]http://i.imgur.com/ivEZ121.jpg[/t] Rate Winner for 1. Rate Zing for 2. Rate Informative for 3.[/QUOTE] 1 looks like it came straight outta' GoldSrc.

Mine's the top one so I'll be very offended if you don't rate Winner. [sp]jks it's largely unfinished[/sp]

Hey Snood_1990, how's that beta antlion worker thing coming along? Haven't heard about it for a while :pudge:

Well it looks like 3 is the clear winner. But out of curiosity, whats the opinion when I change the scope in #2 to be more like the others? Which is better [t]http://i.imgur.com/DOeKR4l.jpg[/t] Again don't look at the hands, they're temporary. Rate Winner for 1 Rate Zing for 2

[QUOTE=CW3D;51634745]Hey Snood_1990, how's that beta antlion worker thing coming along? Haven't heard about it for a while :pudge:[/QUOTE] Hoh shit forgot about that.