Major Update Speculation V35 - A Distinctive Lack of Communication

[Kitt Stargazer]

Was worried the map vote feature would be broken because I refuse to refuse my minor custom hud from my game. Thank god that wasn't the case and it worked just fine.

Also, like expected, the new auto-balance is cute and does effectively work. But doesn't address the actual problems as to why matches become lopsided in the first place and games still get turned into this:

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Was a full match at started, then like magic the instant one side starts winning people on the other team start dropping like flies. Which are the actual cause of the problem to begin with. Probably why people are so bad at this game as well. Instead of trying to improve and get better at situations where they constantly lose, they'd rather just toss their hands in the air and give up instead...

[Contra]

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we waited six months for a casual update that doesn't work properly :v:

[Lord Exor]

[QUOTE=ambaxtoxin;51565243]At least a few hours per week since 2010, and I was being genuine. The back and forth lightened me up. I wasn't expecting anything in particular from the update so I'm not as upset as some others are. Yes, Valve are horrifically disorganised and frequently clueless. This has been a fact for years, and I'm more surprised that people are still shocked by a subpar Smissmas update than the fact that a subpar Smissmas update was shipped.

That said, [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1508954&p=49981634&viewfull=1#post49981634"]you are clearly an expert in the fields of odiousness and sadism[/URL]; so what do I know?[/QUOTE]
That was more an expression of frustration at trends in the gaming industry eroding legacy multiplayer institutions, which is something Casual/Matchmaking is emblematic of. I mean, it should have been glaringly obvious back then given my past history of grumbling over it, but I apologize if it came across as wholly malicious. I'm understandably human and the feelings of abandonment this hobby induces in me can lead to rash behavior.

[housejojo06]

Just noticed that we're missing placement matches too. Yeah this update was just a minor casual update.

[Kitt Stargazer]

[QUOTE=housejojo06;51565488]Just noticed that we're missing placement matches too. Yeah this update was just a minor casual update.[/QUOTE]

Out of curiosity. How do placement matches differ from just having normal matches to begin with?

[CommodoreKong]

[QUOTE=housejojo06;51565402]I'm not saying they started balancing once they got the list. I'm saying that they read through the six pages and thought there were some good ideas, so they started adding them but one work day wasn't enough time for them to be added and tested.[/QUOTE]

I seriously doubt B4nny's list of update ideas had anything to do with this update having so little content.

[Punchy]

[QUOTE=Blackavar;51565364]It would be incredibly frustrating if the TF2 Team only did balancing after being advised by high members of the community. You'd think the stuff we say in here would be enough.[/QUOTE]

The issue with this statement is that without high members spoonfeeding them they'd have no clue how to balance weapons and it would result in an even worse game

[JimmDallas]

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this update made the spy YELLOW.

[sp] the dapper disguise texture is glitched [/sp]

[NotTheBestGuy]

[QUOTE=Jimm Dallas;51565608][IMG]https://2.lithi.io/IHCBr5.png[/IMG]

this update made the spy YELLOW.

[sp] the dapper disguise texture is glitched [/sp][/QUOTE]

Spy is secretly a duck

[Kazii]

OH, new map vote isn't related to the mode you're playing on making you find a new server ANYWAY like this update never existed??

Fucking amazing, Valve

[lilrobot]

the heavy's new ranged moves need some rebalancing honestly

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[Hotrod McCoolguy]

[QUOTE=Kitt Stargaze;51565509]Out of curiosity. How do placement matches differ from just having normal matches to begin with?[/QUOTE]

Take CS:GO's competitive system for example, you have to win 10 competitive matches before the system places you in a rank. So the better you do in said matches, the higher you go.
Instead everyone starts at the bottom and makes their way up, it's awful.

[AD/HD]

congrats to Tinker for winning my raffle!

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[CommodoreKong]

[QUOTE=K4ZMA;51565621]OH, new map vote isn't related to the mode you're playing on making you find a new server ANYWAY like this update never existed??

Fucking amazing, Valve[/QUOTE]

Yeah it should be the map you're playing on and 2 random maps from the same mode, not just 2 completely random maps.

[StormBlink]

I have been gone since the terrible Server update back in Summer

Has it improved since then?

[kathmandukool]

[QUOTE=Jimm Dallas;51565608][IMG]https://2.lithi.io/IHCBr5.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/icp6BMK.jpg[/t]

I can't consistently replicate it but I've personally experienced this glitch since MyM first hit. It's not necessarily the fault of this most recent update.

[Kazii]

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51565691]Yeah it should be the map you're playing on and 2 random maps from the same mode, not just 2 completely random maps.[/QUOTE]That's what I was hoping for. I've had a bad habit of exclusively playing on two maps since Casual was implemented so I did miss having map rotation.

[Hotrod McCoolguy]

Oh yeah, now that the update's here, how are those bingo cards looking?

[HolySnickerPuffs]

I still have about an hour left here, but let's do some early Throwback Thursday, shall we?

[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/39733500447297505/19E8AD352C0F273EE455096792439D5D68DA511D/[/t]

*Extreme Laughter*
*Laughter dissolves into heaving sobs*

[rolf]

[QUOTE=Jboby1;51565947]I still have about an hour left here, but let's do some early Throwback Thursday, shall we?

[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/39733500447297505/19E8AD352C0F273EE455096792439D5D68DA511D/[/t]

*Extreme Laughter*
*Laughter dissolves into heaving sobs*[/QUOTE]

man compared to the "updates" we get these days that looks like some sort of wish from a spoiled child, and I hate how that is

[PsycheClops]

[QUOTE=LilRobot;51565622]the heavy's new ranged moves need some rebalancing honestly

[IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/b9f06d433161a1357852fca04933e69f.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Heavy's a psychic.

[HolySnickerPuffs]

[QUOTE=rolfum;51566043]man compared to the "updates" we get these days that looks like some sort of wish from a spoiled child, and I hate how that is[/QUOTE]

I know it's very unlikely, damn near impossible really, but I hope this is just a dry spell. I really want an update that gets at least [I][B][U]ONE[/U][/B][/I] bingo on that card.

[Kitt Stargazer]

Anyone have good stories about the whole server ping set up working for them? I always get thrown into VA servers, which I live near so I can't test them. But I'm curious to hear if it's been solving the issues with getting put on servers far away with ridiculous pings and what not.

[Doctor Hunt]

[QUOTE=Jboby1;51565947]I still have about an hour left here, but let's do some early Throwback Thursday, shall we?

[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/39733500447297505/19E8AD352C0F273EE455096792439D5D68DA511D/[/t]

*Extreme Laughter*
*Laughter dissolves into heaving sobs*[/QUOTE]

At the very least we can cross out "Something totally unexpected"

[Punchy]

[QUOTE=Jboby1;51565947]I still have about an hour left here, but let's do some early Throwback Thursday, shall we?

[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/39733500447297505/19E8AD352C0F273EE455096792439D5D68DA511D/[/t]

*Extreme Laughter*
*Laughter dissolves into heaving sobs*[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the reminder

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[Ace of Butts]

what the heck, no free tour of duty tickets in our stocking this year? this is like getting coal

no but seriously, that's very disappointing. they really are trying to brush MvM under the rug

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[QUOTE=Ace of Butts;51566328]what the heck, no free tour of duty tickets in our stocking this year? this is like getting coal

no but seriously, that's very disappointing. they really are trying to brush MvM under the rug[/QUOTE]

they did that because literally every mvm player was bitching for months about all the newbs playing due to the free tickets

[Drury]

I like how both MUS and /r/tf2 are flipping out over this update in completely separate directions.

I think it was ok.

[Kitt Stargazer]

[QUOTE=Drury;51566370]I like how both MUS and /r/tf2 are flipping out over this update in completely separate directions.

I think it was ok.[/QUOTE]

I see nothing really wrong with it off hand, just a bit underwhelming at most.

[Drury]

Also this is most likely unrelated to TF2, but Tom Francis, the ex-PCGamer reporter, Gunpoint and Heat Signature developer, and most importantly the inventor of [url=http://www.pentadact.com/2008-05-31-team-fortress-2-unlockable-ideas/]many weapons' stats[/url] (having earned himself [url=http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_2]a Community Equalizer[/url]) is moving to Valve's offices to offer "[his] input on something"

[url]http://www.pentadact.com/heat-sig-job.html[/url]

[media]https://twitter.com/Pentadact/status/811627928383528961[/media]

[media]https://twitter.com/Pentadact/status/811628801931223041[/media]

Francis doesn't consider himself a great programmer and rather advertises himself as a game designer. It's very likely Valve is looking for his input on something actually game-related and AFAIK of all their games he only has a history with TF2, hence me posting about it here.