Major Update Speculation V35 - A Distinctive Lack of Communication - Games

[QUOTE=Punchy;51570530]If we were going to get a surprise day 2 it would have happened already. Hell, we would have had a blogpost for them to add a day 2 onto in the first place. I think we can probably just settle on the realization that they legitimately believe that after a hard years work the game doesn't need any fancy CONTENT to end off with.[/QUOTE] i need a sad rating, but this will do for now :disappoint:

[QUOTE=Punchy;51570274]Or, crazy idea, maybe reindeer are just a festive representation of christmas and it has nothing to do with furries[/QUOTE] Your innocence is cute

[QUOTE=Contra132;51570322]Just wanted to mention, this is still in effect. However, since neither Valve or the FP community is counting Smissmass as a Major Update (for good reason!), it doesn't count for the sake of this bet, either. However, the point still stands. If the next update labelled as a Major Update does not include the Pyro Pack, I will still follow the terms I laid out in my original post.[/QUOTE]maybe it's just me but it looks like you just lost your own bet you thought for sure you were gonna win and are just trying to backtrack. you didn't say "major update" in your post for any reason other than to fairly stop tiny bug fix updates counting. smissmas 2013 is on that "major update" list and that had even less (albeit not as buggy) content - it looks like valve just forgot to add it to the page. but whatever, just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Freeze;51570573]maybe it's just me but it looks like you just lost your own bet you thought for sure you were gonna win and are just trying to backtrack. you didn't say "major update" in your post for any reason other than to fairly stop tiny bug fix updates counting. smissmas 2013 is on that "major update" list and that had even less (albeit not as buggy) content - it looks like valve just forgot to add it to the page. but whatever, just my two cents.[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to backtrack on anything. My terms are my terms, period. At no point have I lied to or misled any of you into expecting any different- it's not on me that this update isn't considered a Major Update by Valve. If it were- and if they were to change it to be so in the future- I would still follow through on my original post, despite feeling cheated, because those were my terms. However, my terms are my terms. Had I not laid them out in the way that they did, they would've been prone to abuse.

[QUOTE=Kitt Stargaze;51570362][t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/97223617472578313/9770F19A9F063522474C69362FDB32E04330582B/[/t] Looks that way[/QUOTE] I didn't believe in the slippery slope argument until they added the Magical Mercenary.

[QUOTE=Freeze;51570573]maybe it's just me but it looks like you just lost your own bet you thought for sure you were gonna win and are just trying to backtrack. you didn't say "major update" in your post for any reason other than to fairly stop tiny bug fix updates counting. smissmas 2013 is on that "major update" list and that had even less (albeit not as buggy) content - it looks like valve just forgot to add it to the page. but whatever, just my two cents.[/QUOTE] To be fair Smissmas 2013 did have multiple weapon rebalances (including making the Short Circuit the most OP weapon the game has ever seen) and was proceeded by Two Cities a month earlier, which was a major update. [editline]22nd December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Contra132;51569391][img]https://puu.sh/sXXv0/b085f01d62.png[/img] John Shoenick, a member of the TF Team, commented on my bug report about players not being matched in after map votes. [editline]22nd December 2016[/editline] To clarify, what he said seems likely. I've been matched into a lot of servers with few players, and a few people have reported seeing new joiners after a map vote.[/QUOTE] Anyone want to take guesses as to how long it's going to be before people on reddit start complaining that they get matched into too many in progress games now that they have their precious map voting after a match now?

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51570599]To be fair Smissmas 2013 did have multiple weapon rebalances (including making the Short Circuit the most OP weapon the game has ever seen) and was proceeded by Two Cities a month earlier, which was a major update.[/QUOTE]my point was not to diminish 2013's smissmas but simply to say if an update as small as that (not to mention the saxxies each year) were added to the major update list then so would this years.

[QUOTE=Freeze;51570630][B]if an update as small as that (not to mention the saxxies each year) were added to the major update list then so would this years.[/B][/QUOTE] But it wasn't. A major update, regardless of its contents, is counted as a major update. Clearly, either Valve didn't consider this update a major update- which is, honestly, very likely to me, because it adds very little to the game- or they simply forgot to call it one. In either case, the only way it can be called a major update is by you or other parties stretching the definition [I]specifically[/I] so I can lose my bet. However, until an official source calls this update a major update, I'm not obligated to do anything, and I won't. You ever sign a contract with a cable company or some shit? Or break something just after warranty expires? Agreements, contracts, bets, they're all made with terms. My terms haven't been met for the fulfillment of the bet on either side. And, honestly, I don't know why you'd expect me to violate my own terms at no benefit to myself. I have neither the obligation or inclination to do that.

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51570599] Anyone want to take guesses as to how long it's going to be before people on reddit start complaining that they get matched into too many in progress games now that they have their precious map voting after a match now?[/QUOTE] Not at all, because I am rather sure it'll get fixed either today or tommorw, theres no way theyll leave it like this over their Holidays

funke plz be our ambassador benny but like for pubs

[QUOTE=Contra132;51570660]And, honestly, I don't know why you'd expect me to violate my own terms at no benefit to myself.[/QUOTE]honour. we shall see about it not being added to the major updates page. it wouldn't be the first time they forgot.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;51570663]funke plz be our ambassador benny but like for pubs[/QUOTE] I sent an email to the dev team calling them stupid commie fucks three weeks ago for a video

[QUOTE=Ona;51569390]Wow... I honestly only like one of the items in this update. Luckily, it's a commando grade one. But good golly the rest just seem incredibly lacklustre to me. Am I alone in this or have Valve apparently just got a fetish for bland looking knit caps that are vaguely holiday themed? Looking forward to the Easter update where we get six different completely circular, brightly coloured dome hats in various patterns, all of which have the word "egg" in their name. Oh, and an "elite" grade hat that's just an entire rabbit sitting on your head.[/QUOTE] That's giving them credit, they'll just re-release the max head as an elite grade.

[QUOTE=Freeze;51570675]honour.[/quote] your definition of honor is giving the other party a free win, even though they failed to meet the terms of the challenge? that's not honorable. that's being a dumbass. [quote]we shall see about it not being added to the major updates page. it wouldn't be the first time they forgot.[/QUOTE] and if it's retroactively added to the major updates page, as I previously mentioned, I will do it anyways to [I]honor[/I] my own terms.

[QUOTE=Punchy;51570693]I sent an email to the dev team calling them stupid commie fucks three weeks ago for a video[/QUOTE] and they still didnt change back the Claidheamh Mòr.

[QUOTE=Punchy;51570693]I sent an email to the dev team calling them stupid commie fucks three weeks ago for a video[/QUOTE] If they were really commies wouldn't they have rigged the Pyro vs Heavy vote to have the Heavy win since he's from Communist Russia?

Heavy is anti-communist. He and his family fled from a prison camp after he killed all the guards.

[QUOTE=426_Hemi;51570113]what valve why the fuck[/QUOTE] i nominate this for the next MUS title [QUOTE=Fluury;51570661]no way theyll leave it like this over their Holidays[/QUOTE] Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

[QUOTE=agrastiOs;51569624]FYI, John Schoenick is Jill.[/QUOTE] The biggest plot twist since "Jill isn't a woman"

[QUOTE=chandlerj333;51570956]i nominate this for the next MUS title[/QUOTE] Major Update Speculation XXXVI - [B]"valve, why the fuck?"[/B] Perfectly matches the entire thread's reaction to [B]this[/B] update. @topic: Still no "lol trolled xd" from the TF Team? Is this actually what we're supposed to be content with?

[QUOTE=riki2cool;51570552]Your innocence is cute[/QUOTE] Sounds like a personal problem

[QUOTE=quake84;51571124]Major Update Speculation XXXVI - [B]"valve, why the fuck?"[/B] Perfectly matches the entire thread's reaction to [B]this[/B] update. @topic: Still no "lol trolled xd" from the TF Team? Is this actually what we're supposed to be content with?[/QUOTE] I'm waiting till about the middle of Q2 to get mad. I'll be fine if we get a good major update with a campaign and the pyro pack/the jungle update before then.

Head prize and the pop-eyes together [t]http://i.imgur.com/QzhY765.png[/t] :v:

[QUOTE=Dragadur;51570845]Heavy is anti-communist. He and his family fled from a prison camp after he killed all the guards.[/QUOTE] I didn't say he was pro Communist just that he was from a Communist country. Also the matchmaker isn't fixed yet, I was just in a game that was 5 vs 4 the entire match and the only time new players were added was the beginning of the match. Hopefully the TF team works out the issue before they leave for the Christmas holiday.

[QUOTE=Oizen;51569873]Quality testing doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]To be honest I think it's laziness for lack of another word. I've always had a feeling it's the new blood at Valve messing up this badly. I could always be wrong, though. I don't work there.

[QUOTE=MissingNoGuy;51571521]To be honest I think it's laziness for lack of another word. I've always had a feeling it's the new blood at Valve messing up this badly. I could always be wrong, though. I don't work there.[/QUOTE] The new blood may have some to do with it, however I always thought it had more to do with Valve overall. I'm sure the few people actually working on the game really try, but they get very little direction, and have little help. I will keep saying that typing out an update every other month would heal the community more than anything else.

[QUOTE=Magypsy;51570595]I didn't believe in the slippery slope argument until they added the Magical Mercenary.[/QUOTE] Oh god let's not start the "One hat Ruined TF2" shitstorm again

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51570825]If they were really commies wouldn't they have rigged the Pyro vs Heavy vote to have the Heavy win since he's from Communist Russia?[/QUOTE] They rigged the vote so he would lose because they hate him. From the looks of things, it seems as if they aren't particularly fond of us either.

If only the TF team would say why this update was so lackluster but they are probably afraid of making things worse than they allready are even though that would atleast explain their perfomance this year. At this point im not even mad anymore,im more concerned about what is even happening in their offices.

[QUOTE=Big Snake Bos;51572353]If only the TF team would say why this update was so lackluster but they are probably afraid of making things worse than they allready are even though that would atleast explain their perfomance this year. At this point im not even mad anymore,im more concerned about what is even happening in their offices.[/QUOTE] Given that Geel said he was told by the TF2 team they were working on their next major update for the end of the year I'm guessing they just weren't able to finish it in time and decided not to ship it.