Major Update Speculation V35 - A Distinctive Lack of Communication - Games

TF2 is like a bicycle; When it first came out, it was all shiny and new. After a few years, having broken it in and added bells and whistles, you're feeling pretty happy with your bike. Here and there it got dinged up a little but it works fine. A few more years later however it starts falling apart, but nothing a little tape and soldering can't fix right? Right now though, it is like dad finally stopped giving a shit about fixing the bike himself and took it to the discount "mechanic" in some alley in the middle of bum-fuck country, and then your younger sibling decided it'd be fun to throw mud and cottage cheese into every orifice of the bike. You still like the bike, but there isn't a lot of optimism going for it, more of an attachment to the fond memories of once was.

I would have loved to play more TF2 but Casual mode replaced Quickplay... And well, searching of "that one map" takes way too long, also I am sad that instead of funny and fun stuff happening in my games (new players learning how to play, occasional "god" player that was able tp get 100 points while other players had average of 15, changing teams as you wish, autoscramble, "random" maps after each game) but ever since I started to used Casual search engine, ~60% of the games are... Not that realy TF2ish. I realy miss people from the old team... Hell, I miss times when TF2 was basicaly their only MP game. tl;dr I want to be back in 2012

[QUOTE=ikes;51254357]wow i cant believe you guys' sensibilities are so frail that a lukewarm update is what decides whether or not you can enjoy and play the game[/QUOTE] I mean, I didn't have a choice I couldn't get into a single game past the loading screen even after the small patch on Friday so it is completely unplayable atm and I do not care to reinstall it right now to find out if it's fixed I need a break from TF2 anyway, I was finding myself more frustrated with it than having fun after they took out all the good things I liked about MyM like stop watch mode

[QUOTE=ikes;51254357]wow i cant believe you guys' sensibilities are so frail that a lukewarm update is what decides whether or not you can enjoy and play the game if you dont find the game fun you can just leave now and stop wasting posts[/QUOTE] "Wow I can't believe that you leave game because update makes game not fun for you anymore. If game isn't fun for you anymore then leave." Can everybody chill out and look at this shit objectively? Maybe people are allowed to have their own opinions and have different values for what makes a game fun. Maybe people judge games not in a vacuum but also compared to other things which they could be doing instead. Maybe people have played this game for years and feel invested in it personally and want to see it get better. Maybe people dont judge the game solely on the most recent update but on years past and on what they think the future of the game looks like. Maybe writing essays on forums doesn't do anything but entrench both sides further in their opinions.

valve needs to reduce casual to 8v8, 12v12 is way too chaotic and results in major stompfests and team stacking to the max

[QUOTE=rolfum;51254845]valve needs to reduce casual to 8v8, 12v12 is way too chaotic and results in major stompfests and team stacking to the max[/QUOTE] nah, 12v12 is more fun it should never be below 9v9 anyways, it's important to be able to have one of each class per team

Oh man, I love the truce feature in Boss Maps when you're playing Engineer. Spies can sap your shit and destroy them but you can't remove the sapper. Great job, Valve.

[QUOTE=Brobattington;51254907]Oh man, I love the truce feature in Boss Maps when you're playing Engineer. Spies can sap your shit and destroy them but you can't remove the sapper. Great job, Valve.[/QUOTE] The alternative is a fuckton of engineers setting up sentries during the boss fight, and nobody is able to stop them.

[QUOTE=Brobattington;51254907]Oh man, I love the truce feature in Boss Maps when you're playing Engineer. Spies can sap your shit and destroy them but you can't remove the sapper. Great job, Valve.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, if you want to get back at them, you can still tickle people with the Holiday Punch during a truce. So just keep them laughing once you find them. Good times.

[QUOTE=Brobattington;51254907]Oh man, I love the truce feature in Boss Maps when you're playing Engineer. Spies can sap your shit and destroy them but you can't remove the sapper. Great job, Valve.[/QUOTE] And you always have that cunt engineer on eyedduct that takes the opportunity to spawn camp at that time, if spies shouldn't be able to sap building during truce then buildings should either be destroyed after a truce or unbuildable during truce

[QUOTE=geel9;51254931]The alternative is a fuckton of engineers setting up sentries during the boss fight, and nobody is able to stop them.[/QUOTE] The alternative could easily be all sentries are automatically destroyed at the end of truce. I'd say thats a much less infuriating thing for Engineers than having spies just come place red tape everywhere so you cant even focus on the objective.

[QUOTE=Fluury;51254211]That reminds me, didnt the Voice Actor of the Scout say they recorded some stuff? Did we have any new voicelines this Halloween?[/QUOTE] He did. I just checked youtube, and nothing's been uploaded. Usually these things are extracted super fast, so I doubt it. So I'm guessing it's for something in the Pyro update, or something unrelated.

[QUOTE=LurkMoar;51254954]He did. I just checked youtube, and nothing's been uploaded. Usually these things are extracted super fast, so I doubt it. So I'm guessing it's for something in the Pyro update, or something unrelated.[/QUOTE] You can look at the diff here. [url]https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/October_21,_2016_Patch[/url] No new mp3 or wav voicelines have been added except for the sound effects for the new taunts.

[QUOTE=Fluury;51254484]I've made the exact opposite experience. Back then, Servers would constantly die on me, and would end up being something like 8vs8. Now, the biggest dips there are are about 10vs12 - the remaining two often being filled up. Allow me to note that you are also playing on hightower, one of the lesser searched for modes; This will rarely happen on the default ones.[/QUOTE] I'm in the same boat as well. Sometimes they do dip down low, but almost always fill up just as fast. I still see the "I quit" mentality is more the communities fault and not valves TBH, leaving matches at the first sign of it going down hill, giving their team the middle finger because they're more important then everyone else on the server. Don't get me started on that awful awful team scramble or autobalance shit. But when comparing Quickplay and Casual MM though, Casual removed a lot of the issues I had with QP. I don't get regularly attacked by people who who make up rules and try to force me to follow them. People are actually playing the same game. Amongst other things. Yep, people still have fun matches and non super serious matches like in QP. Just got out of a manor match were our team was half snipers ( everyone was fine with it for once ) and we still managed to win. I believe I went spy most of that round myself. I do agree though that having to jump servers after every match with new faces makes socializing a bit difficult though. I believe Lord Exor was the one who brought that up. [editline]24th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Oizen;51254946]The alternative could easily be all sentries are automatically destroyed at the end of truce. I'd say thats a much less infuriating thing for Engineers than having spies just come place red tape everywhere so you cant even focus on the objective.[/QUOTE] Says the person who kept trying trying to knock me into the death pit during boss fights this morning lol. [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/242458830526777142/119F9B6718042A0A06A7994A094ACEBED20471AF/[/t] You and your winter coat and white banana hat!

[QUOTE=Oizen;51254946]The alternative could easily be all sentries are automatically destroyed at the end of truce. I'd say thats a much less infuriating thing for Engineers than having spies just come place red tape everywhere so you cant even focus on the objective.[/QUOTE] they should just make it so you cant, sap, build, repare or upgrade buildings

[QUOTE=Kitt Stargaze;51255100] Says the person who kept trying trying to knock me into the death pit during boss fights this morning lol. [t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/242458830526777142/119F9B6718042A0A06A7994A094ACEBED20471AF/[/t] You and your winter coat and white banana hat![/QUOTE] Loose Canon truce kills take skill.

I just checked and I'm still stuck at 14/21 missions and still haven't gotten one this year. Hopefully they put out an update to fix that soon.

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51255466]I just checked and I'm still stuck at 14/21 missions and still haven't gotten one this year. Hopefully they put out an update to fix that soon.[/QUOTE] I still haven't got any either since launch. I hope they release a bunch of missons at once, otherwise I missed out on 4 days worth because of a bug I couldn't do anything about.

Inb4 contracts get fixed but event doesnt get extended by 4 days

Are we limited to receiving 1 new contract per day? I don't remember how things worked last year. And if so, does anybody know the reason for this? The contract rewards are untradable Halloween items, so it seems weird to limit them so much.

I'm at 16/21 missions, got only 2 this year. Has anyone surpassed 16 missions total yet?

[QUOTE=Oizen;51255320]Loose Canon truce kills take skill.[/QUOTE] Yeah I know, you never knocked me off even when I was sitting next to the pit typing! finally killed me at the end after we lost and did your little laugh taunt at me though...

[I][B]Pyro Update has arrived![/B][/I] [I]Fixed a bug where Pyro could be killed.[/I] [I]All flamethrower particles now reach every part of the map that isn't spawn.[/I] [I]Increased all positive statistics of each weapon by x10.[/I] [B][I]Heavy Update has arrived![/I][/B] [I]Removed the Heavy Weapons Guy from the Game due to being too confusing for new players.[/I] I bet this is what the updates are gonna be like in a nutshell. Pyro gets buffed to all-hell and then Heavy gets nerfed even more that the Heavy main count drops to the 100's.

[QUOTE=Trumpatriach;51255898] [B][I]All flamethrower particles now reach every part of the map that isn't spawn.[/I][/B] [/QUOTE] too weak.

[QUOTE=ikes;51255934]too weak.[/QUOTE] Valve: [I]What's that? You said nerf the Heavy? You said remove granary from the map rotation? Gotcha, always nice to listen to the community.[/I]

[QUOTE=Trumpatriach;51255898][I][B]Pyro Update has arrived![/B][/I] [I]Fixed a bug where Pyro could be killed.[/I] [I]All flamethrower particles now reach every part of the map that isn't spawn.[/I] [I]Increased all positive statistics of each weapon by x10.[/I] [B][I]Heavy Update has arrived![/I][/B] [I]Removed the Heavy Weapons Guy from the Game due to being too confusing for new players.[/I] I bet this is what the updates are gonna be like in a nutshell. Pyro gets buffed to all-hell and then Heavy gets nerfed even more that the Heavy main count drops to the 100's.[/QUOTE] I didn't know the number of Heavy mains could go past 0 into the negatives.

[QUOTE=protox;51255611]I'm at 16/21 missions, got only 2 this year. Has anyone surpassed 16 missions total yet?[/QUOTE] I haven't even gotten a single one.

Now that i see some people giving up on TF2 make's me feel bad for the people who actually wasted more than 2000$ of their life spending for this game. thinking it will have hope and be that fun and awesome game TF2. but no :v:

I think I spent more money on this game just in MvM tickets than anything else and not once did I ever get a single austrailium weapon

day 4 and still haven't got a single Marausmission got a beep man via transmute though.