Major Update Speculation V35 - A Distinctive Lack of Communication
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[QUOTE=Avvy;51281914]how about u accept that heavy will never be anything more than a slow, boring, low skill ceiling class only useful for defending last instead[/QUOTE]
when u accept that tf2 isn't just soldier, demo, scout and med lol
[QUOTE=Avvy;51281914]how about u accept that heavy will never be anything more than a slow, boring, low skill ceiling class only useful for defending last instead[/QUOTE]
Constructive argument. Thank you for your valuable input.
[QUOTE=Demo-the-man;51281945]when u accept that tf2 isn't just soldier, demo, scout and med lol[/QUOTE]
i do. there is no potential to heavy however
[editline]30th October 2016[/editline]
u may not like it but there is no way of making a 450 health class work outside of stalemate situations while also not breaking the game
[QUOTE=Avvy;51281914]how about u accept that heavy will never be anything more than a slow, boring, low skill ceiling class only useful for defending last instead[/QUOTE]when you get a kill as Heavy, maybe we will.
he's built from the ground up to be purely a defensive class, not every class needs to be a viable option in every situation
God I miss quickplay.
[QUOTE=Lord Exor;51279885]As for Heavy versus Heavy, I find the encounter to be far more satisfying than any other ditto due to how brisk and uncomplicated they are.[/QUOTE]
lol heavy v heavy just comes down to who manages to spin up first. a very fun, interactive and exciting experience for both parties involved
"In HL Heavy is run but doesnt make big Plays"
Excuse me? Heavy is quite literally the King of Highlander.
heavy does make a good meme though i'll give him that. pootis
[QUOTE=Avvy;51282021]heavy does make a good meme though i'll give him that. pootis[/QUOTE]
is this what swedeposters do now
post b8 and badpost
[U]Ontopic:[/U]
BINGO SHEET FOR THE PYRO UPDATE
[t]https://i.imgur.com/oYGbOWP.png[/t]
My moneys on the bottom row being a bingo, although the far right, going down is a good bet too.
[QUOTE=Stroheim;51282027]is this what swedeposters do now
post b8 and badpost
[U]Ontopic:[/U]
BINGO SHEET FOR THE PYRO UPDATE
[t]https://i.imgur.com/oYGbOWP.png[/t]
My moneys on the bottom row being a bingo[/QUOTE]
We should have Useless Weapon Still Useless ticked from the start IMO.
[QUOTE=Stroheim;51282027]is this what swedeposters do now
post b8 and badpost
[U]Ontopic:[/U]
BINGO SHEET FOR THE PYRO UPDATE
[t]https://i.imgur.com/oYGbOWP.png[/t]
My moneys on the bottom row being a bingo, although the far right, going down is a good bet too.[/QUOTE]
I don't think "Good Update" and "Quickplay Returns" can be in the same row :)
(Also give me that image of the hotdog cat please)
[QUOTE=Stroheim;51282027]
BINGO SHEET FOR THE PYRO UPDATE
[t]https://i.imgur.com/oYGbOWP.png[/t]
My moneys on the bottom row being a bingo, although the far right, going down is a good bet too.[/QUOTE]
i see someone's watched protonjon's superman 64 LP.
i bet 15 dollars that there will be a "COMPLETELY UNWANTED CHANGE" with the chance of "NEW PYNO COSMETICS" along with "USELESS WEAPON CHANGED, STILL USELESS"
[QUOTE=Avvy;51281914]how about u accept that heavy will never be anything more than a slow, boring, low skill ceiling class only useful for defending last instead[/QUOTE]
people like you are the reason 6s has a shit reputation
being an elitist dick to people doesn't make your point, it hurts our scene and makes it less likely to grow. cut that shit out.
also, speaking seriously, Heavy actually has a pretty good skill ceiling. 6s Last is a limiting factor on what you can do with Heavy (which is why rebalancing him so he's both viable elsewhere and not OP would be a good idea), but in Highlander and pubs, Heavy shows off what he's capable of.
Skilled Heavy mains have excellent tracking for denying Scouts, jumpers and tracking cloaked Spies. They also have superior situational awareness, due to needing to be constantly aware of threats like Snipers/Spies that can fuck them pretty instantly, and to go along with this they develop great positioning and game sense. Heavy defending 6s Last is basically a game of tower defense, but outside of 6s his true depth of skill is all about general game sense and positioning, which quite a number of "competitive" players lack.
Every class in this game requires a developed set of skills. Just because Heavy isn't as mechanically challenging as Demoman or Scout doesn't mean that he doesn't have a skill ceiling- he does, it's just in very different ways.
[QUOTE=Stroheim;51282027]
[t]https://i.imgur.com/oYGbOWP.png[/t]
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What no free space?
[QUOTE=FiveEyes;51282171]What no free space?[/QUOTE]
well it practically is free space but still too optimistic for a bingo
[QUOTE=Stroheim;51282027]is this what swedeposters do now
post b8 and badpost
[U]Ontopic:[/U]
BINGO SHEET FOR THE PYRO UPDATE
[t]https://i.imgur.com/oYGbOWP.png[/t]
My moneys on the bottom row being a bingo, although the far right, going down is a good bet too.[/QUOTE]
Dibs on 5th line.
[QUOTE=FiveEyes;51282171]What no free space?[/QUOTE]
"Update does not work", "Update is bad", "Not released in 2016", "No new weapons lol", "Update breaks something unrelated" and "Completely unwanted changes"
[QUOTE=averygoodname;51282269]"No new weapons lol"[/QUOTE]
The rest are probably going to happen, but they're not just going to not include something they actually promised they would include.
[QUOTE=Blackavar;51282332]The rest are probably going to happen, but they're not just going to not include something they actually promised they would include.[/QUOTE]
"We at Valve realise that you've all been hoping for more weapons, but we realised that Pyro actually needed [i]less[/i] weapons! So we removed the Powerjack and the Phlogistinator!
Happy Pyro update!"
Any Ideas on when the Pyro Update will launch, or be announced at least?
[QUOTE=Avvy;51281914]how about u accept that heavy will never be anything more than a slow, boring, low skill ceiling class only useful for defending last instead[/QUOTE]
And this shitpost comes from someone with measly 400 hours in TF2,
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ZOOHQXm.png[/t]
who mains soldier,
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ir3Gyc0.png[/t]
which I, a fucking ENGINEER MAIN outperform at,
[t]http://i.imgur.com/zN3pfjM.png[/t]
additionally I also outperform you at Heavy (since you didn't play the class at all yet you dare give it shit for being low skill ceiling)
[t]http://i.imgur.com/NkLEKuI.png[/t]
Like, what the actual fuck?
You didn't play the class at all AND you main a class popularly associated with a low skill pubbers and yet you dare throw shit at another one for being a "low skill ceiling boring last defense pick" ?!?
Because I know for sure that you don't play competitively on a high level, you don't make sick plays or hit fat airshots with your main, you just [B]spam fucking rockets at others' feet on pubs hoping for a kill[/B].
Oh wait, what's that? You do play competitive?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/sQdq7ly.png[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/W9LJoKt.png[/t]
[B]Wow, you played in ETF2L OPEN.
Not even mid.
[/B]
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Carnival of carnage still as broken as I always knew it, out of bounds exploit, first car challenge we scored a goal then it took a long time then they scored a goal and won, second round it's falling platforms, all of us are alive and all enemies are dead except that one guy magically floating in the air, then the HHH comes and slaughter us so they win
i reset my stats but ok
[editline]30th October 2016[/editline]
i also dont "main" anything i just play the game dude
that steam class page is a horrible tracker. I don't know why people still rely on it
[QUOTE=quake84;51282386]And this shitpost comes from someone with measly 400 hours in TF2,
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ZOOHQXm.png[/t]
who mains soldier,
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ir3Gyc0.png[/t]
which I, a fucking ENGINEER MAIN outperform at,
[t]http://i.imgur.com/zN3pfjM.png[/t]
additionally I also outperform you at Heavy (since you didn't play the class at all yet you dare give it shit for being low skill ceiling)
[t]http://i.imgur.com/NkLEKuI.png[/t]
Like, what the actual fuck?
You didn't play the class at all AND you main a class popularly associated with a low skill pubbers and yet you dare throw shit at another one for being a "low skill ceiling boring last defense pick" ?!?
Because I know for sure that you don't play competitively on a high level, you don't make sick plays or hit fat airshots with your main, you just [B]spam fucking rockets at others' feet on pubs hoping for a kill[/B].
Oh wait, what's that? You do play competitive?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/sQdq7ly.png[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/W9LJoKt.png[/t]
[B]Wow, you played in ETF2L OPEN.
Not even mid.
[/B][/QUOTE]
It was HIS OPINION, not a shitpost per se.
Also, wow, you out-performed someone who has 1 hour on Heavy when you have [B]168 hours[/B] and your score does not even look real. 1k kills in 1 life? Suuuurrreeee.
You do not have to have competitive experience to have an opinion on something, by the by. I mean, Dane is a plat Engi but hey he still pulls off dumb/bad weapon concepts out of his ass!
I mean, I DID humor him when he posted that. But shit's his opinion and I respect that.
also i have tinnitus which means i cant wear headphones for extended periods of time, especially when it comes to shooting games. this is mainly the reason why i dont play in a team anymore. my team won div 6 four years ago however but these days i mainly stick to dm/mge and the very occasional pug
[QUOTE=G=4//\/\3!2;51282376]Any Ideas on when the Pyro Update will launch, or be announced at least?[/QUOTE]
If it comes out this year it will almost certainly be part of the Christmas update.
[QUOTE=Hell-met;51282598]that steam class page is a horrible tracker. I don't know why people still rely on it[/QUOTE]
It's the only thing we have. I am also baffled how his profile displays 2k hours while the tracker shows only 400. Maybe it's actual playtime (alive on a server) rather than the game running?
[QUOTE=Demo-the-man;51282600]It was HIS OPINION, not a shitpost per se.
Also, wow, you out-performed someone who has 1 hour on Heavy when you have [B]168 hours[/B] and your score does not even look real. 1k kills in 1 life? Suuuurrreeee.
You do not have to have competitive experience to have an opinion on something, by the by. I mean, Dane is a plat Engi but hey he still pulls off dumb/bad weapon concepts out of his ass!
I mean, I DID humor him when he posted that. But shit's his opinion and I respect that.[/QUOTE]
While I [B]did[/B] make the mistake of farming kills once (which I expected someone to notice) and I regret that, it has little meaning as my Steam screenshot showcase has other forms of proof that I do, indeed, score high amounts of points/kills on public servers. Sure, it's pubs, sure, I have a pocket, but at least I know the class to >some< degree and don't talk shit about one that I hadn't played for more than 5 hours.
The issue is [B]not[/B] that "I am better than him so I know better" - the issue is a fucking soldier main with 1 hour on heavy (which means he hasn't even gotten to know the class or play around with it properly) is talking shit how it has no potential and shouldn't be run.
I am aware I made my post look much more aggressive than it should have, however previous posts don't seem to have scratched the topic at all.
Have a TL;DR of my rambling, in case you can't be arsed to read it all:
[B]
If you don't have the time or ability to play TF2 long enough to learn a class, then consider shutting the fuck up and not talking smack about it since you don't know ANYTHING. Thanks![/B]
Also have some proof of the stomper heavy I am, to make up for the fake/boosted stats I showed above. (It's nothing compared to others I know, but still it's something)
[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/253714756087848096/97732DF1F459D56FB5DB6FDCB961660705F4F276/[/t]
[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/253714756087813687/8AD61CAD8BAF1F22627035DA3663EC601D1B123B/[/t]
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