Major Update Speculation V35 - A Distinctive Lack of Communication - Games

That unusual is a cool idea. I saw it on reddit awhile ago, I guess Valve did as well.

[QUOTE=Kitt Stargaze;51350504]Chat changes is actually an indirect buff towards spies. This will give them time to get away before your allowed to warn you team. Actually, this is a direct buff to flankers in general. That is of course, if your not in a premade team using a third party chat device of course. Wont matter much in pubs though since most of them don't communicate anyway...[/QUOTE] I'm not sure how the chat change helps spies, the only people who couldn't see your messages when dead was living enemy players. Living players on your team could see your messages while you were dead.

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51350534]I'm not sure how the chat change helps spies, the only people who couldn't see your messages when dead was living enemy players. Living players on your team could see your messages while you were dead.[/QUOTE] Ah, then that's a different story... I miss interpreted what it meant and though no living players could see messages from dead players.

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51350534]I'm not sure how the chat change helps spies, the only people who couldn't see your messages when dead was living enemy players. Living players on your team could see your messages while you were dead.[/QUOTE] Wait, are you saying we can now voice chat with the enemy team? Or is it only when dead?

[QUOTE=Arthamus;51350563]Wait, are you saying we can now voice chat with the enemy team? Or is it only when dead?[/QUOTE] text chat (Y)

[QUOTE=Arthamus;51350563]Wait, are you saying we can now voice chat with the enemy team? Or is it only when dead?[/QUOTE] no, you can't, except on alltalk servers the only change is that now when you're dead, you're not force muted to the enemy

People are saying this breaks Comp mode because you can't hear dead teammates anymore. Uh oh. Probably an oversight.

[QUOTE=Arthamus;51350599]People are saying this breaks Comp mode because you can't hear dead teammates anymore. Uh oh. Probably an oversight.[/QUOTE] Use third party chat devices I guess till it's fixed and pay more attention to your surroundings I guess.

[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11945129/ShareX/2016/11/2016-11-11_01-58-27.png[/IMG] You get sparkles and the effect, is nice

[QUOTE=Arthamus;51350599]People are saying this breaks Comp mode because you can't hear dead teammates anymore. Uh oh. Probably an oversight.[/QUOTE] i don't know, it seems intentional to me, look at the changelog [quote]Replaced convar tf_teamtalk with tf_gravetalk - When enabled, living players can receive text and voice chat from dead players - When disabled, living players cannot hear the dead, regardless of team - Removes the odd behavior of tf_teamtalk wherein living players were exclusively unable to hear dead players on the other team - Defaults to on, except in Competitive matches[/quote] they explicitly go over what it does when it's disabled, and then make it a point to say it's disabled in competitive this is a feature, just not one made with 3rd party voice chats in mind

Once again Valve does the exact opposite of what the comp community would want for comp matchmaking, this time not allowing a dead teammate to communicate with a living one. I'm just not sure what Valve is thinking with some of this stuff.

[QUOTE]- Updated tf_gravetalk setting for Competitive mode to be on by default[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=25554"]Link[/URL]

[QUOTE=SediSocks;51350875][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11945129/ShareX/2016/11/2016-11-11_01-58-27.png[/IMG] You get sparkles and the effect, is nice[/QUOTE] Thats really cool actually.

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51351373]Once again Valve does the exact opposite of what the comp community would want for comp matchmaking, this time not allowing a dead teammate to communicate with a living one. I'm just not sure what Valve is thinking with some of this stuff.[/QUOTE] Doesn't the comp community uses 3rd party voice chat though, do they really care?

wow, a lot of attention toward MvM in particular ....I wonder......

[QUOTE=Kitt Stargaze;51351429]Doesn't the comp community uses 3rd party voice chat though, do they really care?[/QUOTE] The comp community is going to be even less interested in comp matchmaking now, plus Valve is continuing to move further away from comp standards that have existed for years.

[QUOTE=Ace of Butts;51351448]wow, a lot of attention toward MvM in particular ....I wonder......[/QUOTE] probably just sigsegv/community submitted fixes.

[QUOTE=ComodoreBluth;51351373]I'm just not sure what Valve is thinking with some of this stuff.[/QUOTE] Maybe trying to make the spy less useless? Doesnt really work, though, because of external programs.

Looks like[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/5ccbi2/tf2_update_2_for_valve_servers_for_late_111016/"] Valve updated their servers [/URL]so Gravetalk is enabled for Comp matchmaking. No client update just a server update.

[QUOTE=AgentSpy;51350382]It appears a new all class hat called the "Unusual Cap" was added. Backpack picture: [t]https://i.imgur.com/EPoCKuf.png[/t][/QUOTE] oooooh, cute!

[QUOTE=quake84;51347234]Don't be so mean, you'll break his heart :( Seriously, at least don't throw shit at him.. Saying the theme doesn't match would've been enough, calling it the ugliest map of tf2 (regardless of if it is, or not) is outright being a dick.[/QUOTE] But it is, sorry but being honest helps the guy who made the map more, if he decides to make another one. Everytime I get a contract on those maps, I roll my eyes and go Plogh pyro so I can end it quickly.

Now that Valve fixed gravetalk lets hope they add the improved voice coded that CSGO uses to TF2 soon so the voice chat doesn't sound awful. Maybe it would be a nice surprise for the Christmas update Valve?

tfw the the only effect i got accepted is for taunts and i couldn't even get the unusual cap

man I was just thinking this game needs more slightly different baseball caps that don't fit with any loadouts

it should have a few styles "top hat", "baseball cap", "bowler", and "beanie" would be nice variety for unusual creators to choose from and enjoy, and open up more loadout avenues

[QUOTE=ikes;51352986]it should have a few styles "top hat", "baseball cap", "bowler", and "beanie" would be nice variety for unusual creators to choose from and enjoy, and open up more loadout avenues[/QUOTE] Or just give you the unusualifier for your effect and apply the effect onto a hat you want it on, making it untradable in the process.

Imagine Unusuals for hats that can't be unusual, traders would be up in arms.

Imo it would look better without those yellow lines

[QUOTE=Oizen;51353533]Imagine Unusuals for hats that can't be unusual, traders would be up in arms.[/QUOTE] Being that they'd also be untradable, I'd tell them to cry me a river. It's not going to effect them in the slightest... Only the creators would get it as well...

[QUOTE=Oizen;51353533]Imagine Unusuals for hats that can't be unusual, traders would be up in arms.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=quake84;51353474]Or just give you the unusualifier for your effect and apply the effect onto a hat you want it on, making it untradable in the process.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=quake84;51353474]Or just give you the unusualifier for your effect and apply the effect onto a hat you want it on, making it [B][I][U]untradable[/U][/I][/B] in the process.[/QUOTE] Oizen pls