TF2 Media v19: Sniperspy Legacy

[Erfly]

[QUOTE=Melted Bu11et;49259473]Wow, a NISLT video that actually made me laugh :badzing:[/QUOTE]

It was made by someone else and hosted on his channel.

[NettleBranches]

[QUOTE=Erfly;49259783]It was made by someone else and hosted on his channel.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty much all his videos though, albeit with voicelines and the occasional unfunnny meme

[Erfly]

[QUOTE=blueNES;49260343]That's pretty much all his videos though, albeit with voicelines and the occasional unfunnny meme[/QUOTE]

I assumed he was sent demos / replay files to edit, does he really do no editing at all? (besides the voiceclips)

[Cufflux]

[QUOTE=Erfly;49260626]I assumed he was sent demos / replay files to edit, does he really do no editing at all? (besides the voiceclips)[/QUOTE]

For demos, he edits them. Sometimes he hosts others' videos, and then he makes some sound edits. Almost always including voice clips, too.

[void~]

[QUOTE=Cryme Tyme;49259075]Is the Artwork restricted to Items made for this Years Workshop Wonderland Contest or can you make a Artwork based on the Already Ingame Winter Items (sorry if i dident see the rules in the Thread) ?[/QUOTE]

When it comes to artwork, anything goes!

[Mihail]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/nBSuSCV.jpg[/t]

[FlyingScotsman]

Delphy's at it again...

[video=youtube;8_EzVbz7xN0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EzVbz7xN0&ab_channel=Delfy[/video]

If your server randomly crashes - you'll know it's script kiddies exploiting a 1337 bug because they're edgy.

[PipAntarctic]

Sometimes, I just have the need to find Delfy's house, and than have a conversation about how this is not good at all, and that he should report this straight to Valve.

Because this is, quite fucking ridiculous.

[Sweater]

Probably some people knew before him but of course we gotta make it public to everybody! :v:

[Tinbe]

[QUOTE=Zenamez;49265443]Delphy's at it again...

[video=youtube;8_EzVbz7xN0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EzVbz7xN0&ab_channel=Delfy[/video]

If your server randomly crashes - you'll know it's script kiddies exploiting a 1337 bug because they're edgy.[/QUOTE]

I'm seriously trying to think my head off, trying to figure out how the fuck messing with empty minigun will somehow cause capturing the jack crash the game. I seriously don't understand.

[editline]7th December 2015[/editline]

Like, how are they connected in any conceivable way to cause server crash?

[Xmarksit]

[QUOTE=Tinbe;49265942]I'm seriously trying to think my head off, trying to figure out how the fuck messing with empty minigun will somehow cause capturing the jack crash the game. I seriously don't understand.

[editline]7th December 2015[/editline]

Like, how are they connected in any conceivable way to cause server crash?[/QUOTE]

My theory is the game must change the jack every time it turns to neutral upon the jack being dropped.
Every time the jack is picked up by a team it must change its coding to be specified for that team (To allow passing lock-on and scoring for a specific team).
When it does this it has to register which players it can pass to and who is available for that.
This is due to the jack being classed as a weapon, and thus changes weapon type for teams. (Blu and Red)

When a player has no weapon in their hands the game looks at this player and probably gets massively confused, over-flowing itself with code to try and solve what has happened and ends up crashing the server by doing so.

[Jetamo]

[QUOTE=Tinbe;49265942]I'm seriously trying to think my head off, trying to figure out how the fuck messing with empty minigun will somehow cause capturing the jack crash the game. I seriously don't understand.

[editline]7th December 2015[/editline]

Like, how are they connected in any conceivable way to cause server crash?[/QUOTE]

Holding the ball checks whether you can throw the ball to someone, and it checks if the person can hold the ball or not. Think about how it figures out how not to throw the ball to Demoknights.

That + a civilian bug, where you basically lose access to all your weapons(but you are not a demoknight) = ka-boom.

That's only a "person who doesn't know a thing about how it's coded" hypothesis.

[FlyingScotsman]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;49266062]Holding the ball checks whether you can throw the ball to someone, and it checks if the person can hold the ball or not. Think about how it figures out how not to throw the ball to Demoknights.

That + a civilian bug, where you basically lose access to all your weapons(but you are not a demoknight) = ka-boom.

That's only a "person who doesn't know a thing about how it's coded" hypothesis.[/QUOTE]

It's most like an exception being caught up and it panics - thus crashing. That's the only conceivable programming related thing I can think of which would do this (other than a buffer overflow but I doubt it stores all the player's weapons in an array, or stores player states in an array (could do though)).

It's been explained/mentioned a couple of times above me, but I'll summarise:

The game checks to see who is holding the Jack, so it can correctly keep track of who's got it and what goal it goes into (I haven't played much, but I think it's to prevent own goals unless it allows them) and who you can pass it too.

When you pickup a minigun while yours is empty, you go into civilian mode. When the jack goes to your team, the server checks all the players on your team (which is why it crashes when your team gets the jack or is moved between teammates) and makes sure the players on your team are holding a weapon which is 'allowed' to be replaced by the Jack (to prevent Demoknights) but since the civilian has no weapons (the pose is a 'fallback' position so the game doesn't crash - a 'try - catch' if you will) the server hasn't got a state (or condition) to run when this occurs, so it flat out crashes.

It's an easy fix - just put an if-else statement in saying like:

If (PlayerHasNoWeapons)
             {
                 // Do something like ignore their state, or kill them - giving them their weapons back
             }
            else
              { 
                 //carry on as normal
              }

or

try
     {
         // run the check on all players as normal
         playerHasNoWeapons == true; //Bool to see if a 'civilian' has appeared
     }

catch (HasNoWeaponsException e)
       {
          //Do something to fix it
       }

You get the idea. It's an easy fix.

(There's better programmers out there who will either tell me I'm talking shite, my pseudocode is shite (I know that - I hate writing Pseudocode) or I'm nearly there with the explanation).

[Drury]

[QUOTE=Tinbe;49265942]I'm seriously trying to think my head off, trying to figure out how the fuck messing with empty minigun will somehow cause capturing the jack crash the game. I seriously don't understand.

[editline]7th December 2015[/editline]

Like, how are they connected in any conceivable way to cause server crash?[/QUOTE]

It's like the time they updated Steam and somehow managed to disable a control point on Degrootkeep.

[Dekania]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/bHPWBkA.png[/t]

Watch_Dogs thing I did.

[sombrez]

NISLT just rehosted the video, he didnt do anything about the bot documentary

He even tells you to go subscribe to the creator in the description [url]https://www.youtube.com/user/TooManyMoths[/url]

[Digivee]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8umfXR5.png[/IMG]

[Digivee]

[QUOTE=Zenamez;49265443]Delphy's at it again...

[video=youtube;8_EzVbz7xN0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EzVbz7xN0&ab_channel=Delfy[/video]

If your server randomly crashes - you'll know it's script kiddies exploiting a 1337 bug because they're edgy.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad Delfy does these videos. A lot of the time the bugs are patched same week or even same day, and I'd like to think its partly thanks to him making it well known, so people do it more and more people in turn complain about it.

[red_pharoah]

[QUOTE=Digivee;49300131]I'm glad Delfy does these videos. A lot of the time the bugs are patched same week or even same day, and I'd like to think its partly thanks to him making it well known, so people do it more and more people in turn complain about it.[/QUOTE]

You're not wrong, but his videos are more about using the exploits to grief rather than actually exposing the exploit, which is what I dislike about them

[FlyingScotsman]

Someone made an actual mini-sentry...

[IMG]http://cloud-3.steamusercontent.com/ugc/640998583819969400/EB37DB7F74750ABD7A547C5E0788D9E21ED5FA89/[/IMG]

[Erfly]

[QUOTE=Zenamez;49300663]Someone made an actual mini-sentry...

[IMG]http://cloud-3.steamusercontent.com/ugc/640998583819969400/EB37DB7F74750ABD7A547C5E0788D9E21ED5FA89/[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QiKDDgPRB4&feature=youtu.be[/media]
Here's the video.

[Johnny Joe]

[QUOTE=Erfly;49300674][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QiKDDgPRB4&feature=youtu.be[/media]
Here's the video.[/QUOTE]

Good Lord, the Russians have mini-sentry technology now.
How could we have let this happen.

Edit: On the flip side, Putin can spam these babies on ISIS and perhaps get them to all rage quit.

[KnightLight]

[QUOTE=Zenamez;49300663]Someone made an actual mini-sentry...

[IMG]http://cloud-3.steamusercontent.com/ugc/640998583819969400/EB37DB7F74750ABD7A547C5E0788D9E21ED5FA89/[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[url]https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/5/5f/Engineer_littlesentry02.wav?t=20100709022656[/url]

[TheLonelyDonut]

[QUOTE=Zenamez;49265443]Delphy's at it again...

[video=youtube;8_EzVbz7xN0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EzVbz7xN0&ab_channel=Delfy[/video]

If your server randomly crashes - you'll know it's script kiddies exploiting a 1337 bug because they're edgy.[/QUOTE]

What a dickhead. Just send a bug report to the TF2 team or Valve or whatever instead of ruining people's games for clickbait and views. ffs this kid is acting like a shitty "rawr'-style 2007 emo preteen like it's funny.

[PsycheClops]

[QUOTE=TheLonelyDonu;49304603]What a dickhead. Just send a bug report to the TF2 team or Valve or whatever instead of ruining people's games for clickbait and views. ffs this kid is acting like a shitty "rawr'-style 2007 emo preteen like it's funny.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the more the people do this shit, the more notorious it gets for the TF2 team to notice. I have a doubt that a minority of bug reports that are exploits are gonna make it an immediate necessity for the team to fix.

Also, maybe it's just me. But does anyone seem to miss 2D animated TF2 stuff? It's just that maybe I'm a little tired of SFM animation, and is the reason why I appreciate works like CuteC3's a little more.

[Metaru]

[QUOTE=PsycheClops;49305887]Also, maybe it's just me. But does anyone seem to miss 2D animated TF2 stuff? It's just that maybe I'm a little tired of SFM animation, and is the reason why I appreciate works like CuteC3's a little more.[/QUOTE]
That kind of animation always requires a level of commitment far more demanding and somewhat less rewarding in the end. that plus the rise of SFM as "the way" to make tf2 stuff.
you can always enjoy the classics though.
[video=youtube;CXjxsfz8iAo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXjxsfz8iAo[/video]

[Misterlegodude]

[video=youtube;2qZCV_7ojeM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qZCV_7ojeM[/video]

[EmilyVasquez]

[QUOTE=Masterlegodude;49307436][video=youtube;2qZCV_7ojeM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qZCV_7ojeM[/video][/QUOTE]

Someone better show this to Adult Swim. Maybe they'd put it on "Off The Air".

[Aaron0000]

[QUOTE=Masterlegodude;49307436][video=youtube;2qZCV_7ojeM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qZCV_7ojeM[/video][/QUOTE]

r33mix called, he wants his video back.

[SirJakeJenkin]

dumb thing i made recently

[t]http://i.imgur.com/dzTBtE1.jpg[/t]