TF2 General Chat and Speculation Station V6 - Year of the Guard Dog SURVEY IN OP - Games

General Chat is a great way to keep a great amount of topics relevant. Look at Stuff that you Love/Hate and how they are dead or barely breathing (The penultimate post was 23 days ago, and just today someone posted there) . Those type of content can be written here and receive more output/ratings, and exposure. Trying to diversify the threads will just end with ton of pages without much content. We have some stuff that really needs it own topics: TF2 Creation of Items and Maps, Gamemodes or Random Crits (THIS was a good thing, someone managed to funnel down all the RC shit to a single place). You giving us the motivation to create more threads its great, I won't deny it, but those type of things must come naturally .

What about threads for each class, for starters? The benefit of having separate threads is that you've more than one stream of discussion open to you. Different topics would be in different places, so with the new forum software you can tag the ones you're interested in and not pay attention to the topics you're not interested in.

Moronic idea, all it would do is clog up the forum with useless shit

I'm sure FunkE would be happy to have a thread all to himself.

And clogging up the forum with useless shit makes it harder to find good, interesting things you wouldn't have found otherwise. The same supposed negative of megathreads/general chats.

I could see like, a dedicated weapon balance thread, media thread and rant thread like we used to have but beyond that idk

Personally I don't see the use in a thread per question, topic, person, idea, map, tactic, video, game, etc...etc... If a person needs assistance, wants to find out something there's plenty of friendly people in general threads that are willing to answer their queries. It prevents spam and also keeps things orderly so sections aren't full of 'zinger' threads being started akin to reddit. It also allows discussions to freely flow into one another and regulars to keep coming back to chip into the ongoing conversations. I know for a fact many people don't want to scroll through a sea of threads to find a discussion which they can add onto. General threads help with that by allowing any and all conversation to go on for the regulars and equal-minded people to join in.

yes and let us have a thread for each and every weapon and cosmetic in the game

i dont understand what's going on. So are we losing our thread? i thought the whole reason we got put in general talk was because it was too big of a problem to have multiple threads; that was what the uproar was about wen we lost MUS thread. im confused

You have a literal entire forum to yourself. It displays 50 threads on the front page. How are you going to clog it up?

Having one single dedicated general chat is far more superior and less of a hassle than a thread for every single little topic.

there was a day where a thread was called major update speculation, where news about updates would be posted, it was then decided to be merged with a thread no one posted in, and the result was MORE discussions being in the same thread. there's rarely class specific discussion, more about the game overall, you don't want funke and exor with a thread feeling lonely.

We already had a forum to ourselves, the mods broke it up for shitposting. Do we really need to bring up the MUS thing again, because I thought we handled this a year+ ago.

has it already been a year since the tf2 subforum generalized to a valve subforum?

All TF2 and other subforum threads are seen in the GGC, with no way to filter them out.

There is...kinda. You click on the tag and it filters to threads made with that tag: TF2, OVERWATCH, CS, FARCRY, etc. However I get your point, just skimming through the GGC will be an absolute mess.

Kinda hard to start, but I guess I'll give it a try. There is no need to diversify the pool of threads, at least at this moment. The recent creation of Random Crits was a good way to stop the constant "arguments - no, u" type of discussion it went for a long, long time, and damaged other type of topics. The natural way to solve the problem, using the forum and it tools, was an excellent use of creativity and, I dare to say, healthy actitude (the alternative was ignoring, but it didn't work) A thread for each class doesn't sound too good. As a user, I should be browsing 9 different threads if I want to keep up-to-date with the game. General Chat can bring all those nine characters into one place. This isn't perfect, topics shift and my issue or theme I'm interested just become irrelevant when the ambient or discussion becomes obsolete/solved/ignored. But, it works. I can browse this subforum and get a ton of information at once. Maybe this is the problem? Our reliance in General Chat to be informed about the game? Or even, that we don't try and experiment with NewPunch and all it functions?

I kinda think Garry is deadset on trying out having no megathreads for better or worse. Things'll probably be back to normal in like a week. I think we can manage.

The Emporium thread got the same "we're closing this down, don't group everything into one thread" message, which is weird because that's the most singular topic TF2 thread on the forums. Something's a little weird about this, if not downright fishy.

for TF2 and this thread specifically, you should also consider, that many, many people here are only using Facepunch just for TF2, and many of them are also only here just for this one thread (previously MUS), having to follow multiple threads/a subforum is more work than following a thread, not the opposite

this is just out of left field to us is all Hezzy. Is there a reason this is to be forced? A lot of us just want a place to group up and shoot the breeze about tf2 with, not so much have a focus point of discussion we are not allowed to divulge away from. I think here and there if we feel there are certain things we want to have a focused topic of discussion about, we are pretty good at creating a thread for. It's just that it doesnt happen to frequently, as TF2 is a game with many things in it. I particularly care some about competitive mode, however many people here may not, but will join in the convo to voice how they feel about it and wait till the topic changes. I just feel trying to cut up this thread would be an odd choice

if we're going to do more threads, here's how I think it should work *Keep GenChat for general/random discussion about TF2 ("this happened today", or "have you thought about this?", etc). If a discussion occurs multiple times or starts stretching for multiple pages, we make a new thread for it. *Bring back MUS strictly for sharing update-related news and leaks and discussion of those topics. Our previous MUS was essentially a Gen-chat, and I don't think that was a good thing. *Recurring topics, like the random crit debate, get their own thread. *Everything that already has its own thread gets a thread. *Advice threads and the such can be made if people want to. For instance, if i wanted to make a thread centering around Spy gameplay and tips, maybe I could do that. But just going and making a thread for every single class is probably a bad idea. If someone is making a thread, it needs to be for a particular purpose that that thread can serve. Class general threads are simultaneously too vague and too specific to be anything but clutter.

Look at the front page. Those 50 threads only go back two hours as it stands, and we've barely begun to make use of the new subforum system. If we were making a new thread for every workshop item, every class in the game, every hero in overwatch, and all these other threads you want us to be making, the front page will only show the past half hour of threads, if that. Finding a thread that's posted in daily will require going back like 10 pages. This is a great way to make it impossible to find any thread that doesn't have its own sub.

Bring back the free items thread

You know creating the class pages is literally doing exactly what you're fighting against, yea? It doesn't help the "keep general discussion thread" argument at all. Mods aren't going to see members proactively making class threads and go "y'know, maybe we shouldn't make them get rid of the GD thread!"

well if he loses the argument he can't risk missing out on those sweet, sweet coins for making those threads, can he?

Ah, the classic "play on the side of whoever's winning but pretend it's being done ironically so you have an alibi" move. Disappointed I didn't think of it.

In more positive news apparently comp queue times have been fixed, finding a game take three or less minutes.

I just tried it and got in a match in about 2 minutes. The other people on the server said it took from 2 minutes to 10 minutes to get in the match aside from one person who took an hour. Seems like they may have fixed the matchmaking/queue for comp.