TF2 General Chat and Update Speculation Station - One of Several Edition

[myxo]

whoa what's with the spike in people viewing this thread

[housejojo06]

[QUOTE=VX-79;52588467]whoa what's with the spike in people viewing this thread[/QUOTE]

150 of them are guests so it's probably just Reddit.

[Angemon300]

[QUOTE=housejojo06;52588476]150 of them are guests so it's probably just Reddit.[/QUOTE]

Hello Reddit, how does it feel like knowing 4chan is better than you?

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[myxo]

[QUOTE=housejojo06;52588476]150 of them are guests so it's probably just Reddit.[/QUOTE]
if it's just because of that guy who got """ip banned""" I'm gonna die

[bobpineapple]

300 people here and nothing happened? :s:

[rwaid]

[QUOTE=VX-79;52588484]if it's because of that guy who got """ip banned""" I'm gonna die[/QUOTE]

i think it's from the "Valve says-Jungle Update will be out "plenty of time before Halloween" post

[Fluury]

[QUOTE=bobpineapple;52588489]300 people here and nothing happened? :s:[/QUOTE]

It's a bunch of folk from reddit.

Someone linked ics saying valve saying it'll be "plenty of time before Halloween" so a bunch of reddit folk will check in here.

Nothing else.

[Blackavar]

[QUOTE=hahagoni_r;52588553]Already a thing, though the one they use appears to be outdated.
[t]https://i.imgur.com/BPNpFeW.png[/t]

Not sure why they don't do temporary hardware/ IP bans (thinking 2 weeks). That would keep the bot accounts away, but shared computers in families, netcafes etc. would not suffer.[/QUOTE]

Make it so that you can't register more than like... 1 or 2 accounts on the same hardware? This would fuck over people that want alts because of VAC, and would destroy bot accounts

[Contra]

[url]http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=31834[/url]

[myxo]

aaaaaaa.

[Contra]

they're alive! sort of!

[chandlerj333]

changes to cases specifically, not crates, implying they may return (?)

[bobpineapple]

[I]"We don't have a date for the Pyro update that we can share yet, but we're working to finish it as soon as possible."[/I]

:s:

edit: i also dont know what this is supposed to mean. is august even a possibility now? i know they cant say much about an actual release, but they should be a little less vague when it comes to how close they are to actually being done

[st00pid]

[QUOTE=Contra132;52588853][url]http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=31834[/url][/QUOTE]

So it's not 2017, right?

[PSI Guy]

I didn't even consider cases when it came to what the update might change. Watch as they touch things even we forgot about.

...I kinda wanna make bets over the most obscure thing they'll change. Tutorial Mode or Coach Mode or Decals...

[Jelman]

[QUOTE=bobpineapple;52588860][I]"We don't have a date for the Pyro update that we can share yet, but we're working to finish it as soon as possible."[/I]

:s:[/QUOTE]

:suicide:

[RetroMike]

[QUOTE=bobpineapple;52588860][I]"We don't have a date for the Pyro update that we can share yet, but we're working to finish it as soon as possible."[/I]

:s:[/QUOTE]

Well, that's pretty much what I got from the "trying to finish and ship" statement. Glad to see them just say it in plain wording this time.

[Xmarksit]

[QUOTE=PSI Guy;52588871]...I kinda wanna make bets over the most obscure thing they'll change. Tutorial Mode or Coach Mode or Decals...[/QUOTE]

Secretly I always wished for more decal items, and an official return of coloured decals (without having to use the scripted image to bypass the awful gradient).

[st00pid]

[QUOTE=X marks it;52588880]Secretly I always wished for more decal items, and an official return of coloured decals (without having to use the scripted image to bypass the awful gradient).[/QUOTE]

I fear that instead they might finish off color decals for good in this update

[Blackavar]

They're close to being done with the update. VNN wasn't just being sensational.

[Ultravod]

[QUOTE]Cases will share a list of effects for the Unusual items received from the cases. Specialty cases that have community-created Unusual effects will continue to have those community effects but will also use the shared list of effects when determining which effect to grant for an Unusual item. For example, if you open the Quarantined Collection Case or the Confidential Collection Case from the Invasion update and receive an Unusual item, the effect for the item will be picked from the combined Invasion-themed Unusual effects list and the shared list of Unusual effects that all cases share.[/QUOTE]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I read it is if I were to unbox an Invasion case, and roll unusual I now have a chance of a shitty second or third generation unusual effect on my (already shitty) unusual Invasion hat? I always wanted a Strange Nuts n' Bolts Universal Translator! Also, unless Valve have specifically re-nabled unusual non-hat-equip-region "miscs" no new unusual Captain Space Manns will be unboxed.

Fuck's sake. What are they thinking?

Also, this means cases from the last two halloween events (Gargoyle and Creepy Crawly) will now produce 1st/second/third generation effects ...as well as a their respective event effects?

That's good/bad. It means things like a Sunbeams Class Crown or Burning Flames Pestering Jester can now exist and there is the possibility of something like a Bubbling Neptune's Nightmare or Smoking Smokey Sombrero.

I'm unsure what Valve are hoping to accomplish here. It will probably raise the price of desirable effects that are tied to a specific case (cough cough Nebula) and produce a lot of 1/1 unusuals that no one really wants (buy my Massed Flies Mo'Horn, guise!)

[RetroMike]

[QUOTE=Ultravod;52588916]Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I read it is if I were to unbox an Invasion case, and roll unusual I now have a chance of a shitty second or third generation unusual effect on my (already shitty) unusual Invasion hat? I always wanted a Strange Nuts n' Bolts Universal Translator! Also, unless Valve have specifically re-nabled unusual non-hat-equip-region "miscs" no new unusual Captain Space Manns will be unboxed.

Fuck's sake. What are they thinking?

Also, this means cases from the last two halloween events (Gargoyle and Creepy Crawly) will now produce 1st/second/third generation effects ...as well as a their respective event effects?

That's good/bad. It means things like a Sunbeams Class Crown or Burning Flames Pestering Jester can now exist and there is the possibility of something like a Bubbling Neptune's Nightmare or Smoking Smokey Sombrero.

I'm unsure what Valve are hoping to accomplish here. It will probably raise the price of desirable effects that are tied to a specific case (cough cough Nebula) and produce a lot of 1/1 unusuals that no one really wants (buy my Massed Flies Mo'Horn, guise!)[/QUOTE]

Well they did say there is time to send them feedback regarding the case changes. You could hit them up with some thoughts on the matter.

[st00pid]

[QUOTE=Blackavar;52588896]They're close to being done with the update. VNN wasn't just being sensational.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, like six months ago.

[myxo]

Well that wasn't the most exciting piece of news but at least event effects can be on non event hats now.

Also here's hoping for the 31st

[Loth]

So I feel this will drive cases/crates sales up, because there's now a lot more possibilities of rare combos you can get, imagine getting a high tier unusual and a good unusualifier from a single crate. That's gonna make people share crazy lucky combo of unusual + bonus they got on youtube, reddit etc. And when tons of people share opening crates content, more people buy crates.
+ There's the effect of having rare limited series items you can only get for a set period of time. If you can only get it now, youre way more manipulated to cash in. All of this will increase tf2 revenue imo. Hopefully it'll be a good thing for item submitters.

[kerpkek]

I just wanna be able to unbox Nebula on regular hats :(

[DrewB]

We don't have a date for the Pyro update that we can share yet, but we're working to finish it as soon as possible. If you have feedback about the case changes or anything else you'd like to share with the TF2 team, send it to us using the Contact Form on the right taskbar (under "Contact Us").

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[Nebrassy]

[QUOTE=Ultravod;52588916]Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I read it is if I were to unbox an Invasion case, and roll unusual I now have a chance of a shitty second or third generation unusual effect on my (already shitty) unusual Invasion hat? I always wanted a Strange Nuts n' Bolts Universal Translator! Also, unless Valve have specifically re-nabled unusual non-hat-equip-region "miscs" no new unusual Captain Space Manns will be unboxed.

Fuck's sake. What are they thinking?

Also, this means cases from the last two halloween events (Gargoyle and Creepy Crawly) will now produce 1st/second/third generation effects ...as well as a their respective event effects?

That's good/bad. It means things like a Sunbeams Class Crown or Burning Flames Pestering Jester can now exist and there is the possibility of something like a Bubbling Neptune's Nightmare or Smoking Smokey Sombrero.

I'm unsure what Valve are hoping to accomplish here. It will probably raise the price of desirable effects that are tied to a specific case (cough cough Nebula) and produce a lot of 1/1 unusuals that no one really wants (buy my Massed Flies Mo'Horn, guise!)[/QUOTE]

they haven't specified what effects will be shared, also this gets me an impression that effects locked to a specific case will stay locked to it, but there will be a chance of getting other effects when unboxing that case.
so I assume invasion effects will still only be unboxed from invasion cases, but with a possibility of getting other not yet known effects, that list could include only the worst effects, or only a few specific effects, we have no idea yet

[ToastyToes]

[QUOTE=Ultravod;52588916]Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I read it is if I were to unbox an Invasion case, and roll unusual I now have a chance of a shitty second or third generation unusual effect on my (already shitty) unusual Invasion hat? I always wanted a Strange Nuts n' Bolts Universal Translator! Also, unless Valve have specifically re-nabled unusual non-hat-equip-region "miscs" no new unusual Captain Space Manns will be unboxed.

Fuck's sake. What are they thinking?

Also, this means cases from the last two halloween events (Gargoyle and Creepy Crawly) will now produce 1st/second/third generation effects ...as well as a their respective event effects?

That's good/bad. It means things like a Sunbeams Class Crown or Burning Flames Pestering Jester can now exist and there is the possibility of something like a Bubbling Neptune's Nightmare or Smoking Smokey Sombrero.

I'm unsure what Valve are hoping to accomplish here. It will probably raise the price of desirable effects that are tied to a specific case (cough cough Nebula) and produce a lot of 1/1 unusuals that no one really wants (buy my Massed Flies Mo'Horn, guise!)[/QUOTE]

How is this a bad thing? Now you're able to snag some hats with older effects, there's nothing deep behind it. It seems like something that was demmanded by the community, valve is just pleasing those people.

[Xmarksit]

Yeah I think some people are judging this wrongly.

Limited cases which are the only case you can get certain effects for will still be the only case you can get those effects from.
Whereas with this proposed change will make it so you can now uncase generation 1, 2 and 3 effects from all cases including limited-time cases. In a way this revives generation 1 unusuals.

In addition to the bonus of having a chance for an additional rare item (out of a list of potential items) that is just a sweetener.

And a note since some people somehow didn't read a certain part.
[B][U]"This doesn't effect crates at all, only cases."[/U][/B]