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I really wish the heavy had tighter spread on his minigun, make him the midrange king or something I dunno. What niche does he really fill other than somewhat tankier than other classes?

[QUOTE=slapdown3;52606489]I really wish the heavy had tighter spread on his minigun, make him the midrange king or something I dunno. What niche does he really fill other than somewhat tankier than other classes?[/QUOTE] The damage is okay. In fact, it's great, and spraying cone is just right, but it's stream damage not burst, which means you have to take enemies one at a time and focus on them. That only adds to the problem i see with Heavy - how vunerable he is. Yes, you have 300 hp, some healing abilities, but you are slow as snail and almost stationary when you shoot. Let's see: two classes can instakill stationary target, two classes shoot extremely destructive projectiles that you cannot dodge, two classes are fast and excel at close range when you have problem tracking them, which leaves us with Heavy, Medic, and Engineer that could be dealt with with relative confidence. I'm not saying that Heavy is weakling, but amount of flanking and hiding you have to do with him is... higher than it should be (because it's even more than your average Spy do). You are not wall of bulletproof meat that trailers used to show, but someone that could take three rockets instead of two. Nuisance with weird gun. I hope valve does something about that, because Heavy is in need of chanves, and things are so complicated, that i can't even tell in which direction.

They can start by having a bullet go in the center of the cone to reward those with tracking

[QUOTE=Bigstivie;52606235]Come on valve, this has gotten far past the point of ridiculousness. I want the update, come on, pretty please?[/QUOTE] Theoretically Valve could release a multi-day update like in the times of yore, but I doubt they could provide a month's worth of content and blogposts.

[QUOTE=Drag0600;52606454]Why the fuck is every OW backstory so sad and tragic, like fucking hell, where's the fun? (that question goes to the game itself too.) Hopefully the new update SFM is good.[/QUOTE] To be fair they just made a pretty hilarious short of Roadhog and Junkrat. It exists, Mei in particular is just not interesting or funny.

[QUOTE=Oizen;52606585]To be fair they just made a pretty hilarious short of Roadhog and Junkrat. It exists, Mei in particular is just not interesting or funny.[/QUOTE] Even Junkrat and Roadhog have some shitty tragic backstory about losing their homelands to robots or some crap. it's really ill-fitting and it makes it hard for me to take those characters seriously (even though I really like both of them). The only character with a tragic background in TF2 is the Heavy iirc.

[QUOTE=Drag0600;52606454]Why the fuck is every OW backstory so sad and tragic, like fucking hell, where's the fun?[/QUOTE] This is pretty easy to answer. The whole setting of the world is one steeped in turmoil and conflict. Climate problems, robot uprisings, shadow governments and secret societies pulling strings. A far cry from the wacky world of TF2 where two idiot brother are fighting over gravel. Different games with different tones. Junkrat is fun. He really doesn't give a shit about his tragic past. :D Also, holy crap man, if the update doesn't drop next week I will be shocked. Even I didn't think it was going to take this long and I've been saying end of Aug since June.

[QUOTE=slapdown3;52606489]I really wish the heavy had tighter spread on his minigun, make him the midrange king or something I dunno. What niche does he really fill other than somewhat tankier than other classes?[/QUOTE] Try the tomislav

[QUOTE=Drag0600;52606454]Why the fuck is every OW backstory so sad and tragic, like fucking hell, where's the fun? (that question goes to the game itself too.) [/QUOTE] welcome to TF2 general chat

General chat, yes, but with the ashes of MUS covering much of it.

Also the ashes of my hopes and dreams for the update.

Speaking of ashes, here's hope they will finally fix the phlog's flame particle.

I would use the phlog more if there was a way to remove its flame graphic,i think its harder to aim with it than the other flamethrowers.

Wow. Just got back on the ground and... Nothing for TF2's birthday. No blog post, no commemoration of this milestone in gaming history, no anything.

[QUOTE=RetroMike;52606599] Also, holy crap man, if the update doesn't drop next week I will be shocked. [/QUOTE] Why?

[QUOTE=C. Blades;52606954]Wow. Just got back on the ground and... Nothing for TF2's birthday. No blog post, no commemoration of this milestone in gaming history, no anything.[/quote] it's team fortress' birthday, not team fortress 2's... and it's not even tf's birthday. that's the 24th. of course nothing happened today. seriously, guys. look at a calendar once in a while?

[QUOTE=Metaru;52606796]Speaking of ashes, here's hope they will finally fix the phlog's flame particle.[/QUOTE] I still think the Phlog needs a re-rework. As of right now it's still a pretty crippled playstyle, a pyro without his airblast is just so incomplete nowadays. Even moreso if you don't pack the manmelter with you, at that point you're 100% unable to extinguish teammates, and I think that's pretty shitty.

[QUOTE=Chuggoth;52606996]2 AM for Washington. 11 AM over here.[/QUOTE] Valve isn't going to put out a TF2 blog post at 2 AM their time.

It's actually 12 AM on the west coast :v:

[QUOTE=HotrodMC;52607064]It's actually 12 AM on the west coast :v:[/QUOTE] You're totally right I didn't even look the time when I made that post.

Some dude in VK sent this picture: [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c639429/v639429627/42ae7/1tMtOPiY8mQ.jpg[/t] Animation seems to be [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=921590643"]"Jungle Dance" taunt[/URL], and it's [I]"in"[/I] the game files. Looks like fake, but what are your opinions, guys?

[QUOTE=MrJohn;52607148]Some dude in VK sent this picture: [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c639429/v639429627/42ae7/1tMtOPiY8mQ.jpg[/t] Animation seems to be [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=921590643"]"Jungle Dance" taunt[/URL], and it's [I]"in"[/I] the game files. Looks like fake, but what are your opinions, guys?[/QUOTE] link or its not real

[QUOTE=MrJohn;52607148]Some dude in VK sent this picture: [t]https://pp.userapi.com/c639429/v639429627/42ae7/1tMtOPiY8mQ.jpg[/t] Animation seems to be [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=921590643"]"Jungle Dance" taunt[/URL], and it's [I]"in"[/I] the game files. Looks like fake, but what are your opinions, guys?[/QUOTE] Though I wouldn't be surprised if that community taunt makes it into this update if it was actually added in a recent update someone would of noticed.

I'm not expecting the update until mid to late September at this point, honestly. Too many signs pointing to it not being particularly soon, like map makers not receiving any dev comments still.

[QUOTE=weyu6572;52607194]link or its not real[/QUOTE] Dude, who sent this picture, said, that it's from reddit-like app, that is advertised by TF2bers. Dunno, how to get link.

[QUOTE=MrJohn;52607308]Dude, who sent this picture, said, that it's from reddit-like app, that is advertised by TF2bers. Dunno, how to get link.[/QUOTE] Click the share button; choose "Copy to clipboard" Edit: Now I get it, I will try to find it. This is TF2 Amino, BTW.

[QUOTE=Whomobile;52606597]Even Junkrat and Roadhog have some shitty tragic backstory about losing their homelands to robots or some crap. it's really ill-fitting and it makes it hard for me to take those characters seriously (even though I really like both of them). The only character with a tragic background in TF2 is the Heavy iirc.[/QUOTE] Snipers backstory is pretty sad but he does not know about until much later

[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;52606982]Why?[/QUOTE] I was anticipating the update being late, really late, but I didn't think it would be flirting with autumn.

[QUOTE=Thatrandomuser;52607291]like map makers not receiving any dev comments still.[/QUOTE] how do we know that though like im surprised it's being payed this much attention to this year meanwhile all the other updates no one even thought about looking at community maps for when the update releases Also today is Valve's 21st birthday.

I'm surprised we still haven't gotten a blogpost about Insomnia 61, yet.