TF2 General Chat and Update Speculation Station - One of Several Edition - Games

[QUOTE=Ghostlier;52488091]dude im the same person that made a [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZCMFS5pjEo]super mario world rom hack of the 7 grand dad meme[/url]. you can't shitpost properly unless you are willing to put 110% effort into it. that's the rule.[/QUOTE] It's true. The only worthwhile shitposts are the ones that both amaze and impress for better or worse. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfazP_y-7_c[/media]

I really want mexican or atleast colombian valve servers. I'm sick of playing with high ping in valve servers and really don't want to wake up at 4am to play a casual game. Most of the servers that are close to where I live are dead community servers. I just wanna play tf2 like everyone else without dealing with really high fucking ping.

So apparently there was a (fixed) remote code execution exploit on Source games including Tf2 that could install the trojan when a user killed another. How? [B]Through the ragdolls.[/B] Thankfully it's been fixed but watch your servers to make sure it's not running older sourcemod just in case. [url]https://oneupsecurity.com/research/remote-code-execution-in-source-games?t=r[/url]

So if Geel doesn't pay his update bet out, does that count as a toxx?

[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;52489022]It's true. The only worthwhile shitposts are the ones that both amaze and impress for better or worse. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfazP_y-7_c[/media][/QUOTE] Now we just need ctf_poofort, and we'll be set.

[QUOTE=Stroheim;52483942]Should I post the publicly available, still fresh on the general discord convo the guys had when they finally [U][I]GOT[/I][/U] MUS? I mean it's pretty important stuff, the threads been around longer than some of the mods have been users and goes back almost a full 7 years.[/QUOTE] Here's the 30 minute 'public' discord conversation that finally [B]GOT[/B] Major Update Speculation, go nuts. (I cut out a bit while FP was 503'd[sp]it was wok-posting[/sp], and put a little bonus at the end. This is about 1 and a half days old.) [B][U][url]http://imgur.com/a/t0ZTe[/url] Important highlights/notes:[/U][/B] 1. Kiwi thought moderating the thread was [B]too much effort[/B] for him. He also thought [b]4[/b] people should've been banned and pointed here, but didn't do it. 2. The tf2 section actually has had less reports than [U]any[/U] other section (according to Craptasket), but MUS was the worse in terms of the reports(not surprising) 3. Yes, this was the tone whenever the MUS thing was brought up on the discord. See 1 for how the mod response was usually. 4. [B]REAGY FOR ADMIN. DID THE WORK OF [U]TWO[/U] MODS WHO PUBLICLY GAVE UP ON MODDING THE THREAD[/B] [t]http://i.imgur.com/d1iHyFL.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Stroheim;52491118]Here's the 30 minute conversation that finally [B]GOT[/B] MUS, go nuts. (I cut out a bit while FP was 503'd[sp]it was wok-posting[/sp], and a little bonus at the end) [B][U][url]http://imgur.com/a/t0ZTe[/url] Important highlights/notes:[/U][/B] 1. Kiwi thought moderating the thread was [B]too much effort[/B] for him. He also thought [b]4[/b] people should've been banned and pointed here, but didn't do it. 2. The tf2 section actually has had less reports than [U]any[/U] other section (according to Craptasket), but MUS was the worse in terms of the reports(not surprising) 3. Yes, this was the tone whenever the MUS thing was brought up on the discord. 4. [B][U]REAGY FOR ADMIN. DID THE WORK OF TWO MODS WHO GAVE UP[/U][/B] [t]http://i.imgur.com/d1iHyFL.png[/t][/QUOTE] One big trend seems to be what I said in MUS, we shouldn't have people who don't care about TF2 or call the game "dying" be influencing what happens in this subforum. It's honestly a load of bull that mods seem to be not wanting to take any input on whatsoever, or they won't bother making a dedicated poster a moderator instead so they don't have to stress over such a [I]difficult[/I] job of banning 4 people.

[QUOTE=Ghostlier;52488091]dude im the same person that made a [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZCMFS5pjEo]super mario world rom hack of the 7 grand dad meme[/url]. you can't shitpost properly unless you are willing to put 110% effort into it. that's the rule.[/QUOTE] my goodness, the world is indeed small

Stroheim is the hero that the TF2 Subforum deserves. *I'd put a salute emoji here but there isn't one* It's a shame he'll never be able to open a new MUS thread. :(

[QUOTE=Stroheim;52491118]Here's the 30 minute conversation that finally [B]GOT[/B] MUS, go nuts. (I cut out a bit while FP was 503'd[sp]it was wok-posting[/sp], and a little bonus at the end) [B][U][url]http://imgur.com/a/t0ZTe[/url] Important highlights/notes:[/U][/B] 1. Kiwi thought moderating the thread was [B]too much effort[/B] for him. He also thought [b]4[/b] people should've been banned and pointed here, but didn't do it. 2. The tf2 section actually has had less reports than [U]any[/U] other section (according to Craptasket), but MUS was the worse in terms of the reports(not surprising) 3. Yes, this was the tone whenever the MUS thing was brought up on the discord. See 1 for how the mod response was. 4. [B]REAGY FOR ADMIN. DID THE WORK OF [U]TWO[/U] MODS WHO PUBLICLY GAVE UP[/B] [t]http://i.imgur.com/d1iHyFL.png[/t][/QUOTE] The tone of the discussion just seems disrespectful to the people who still take this community seriously.

[QUOTE=valvenews;52491184]The tone of the discussion just seems disrespectful to the people who still take this community seriously.[/QUOTE] "is it finally dying" "its a miserable pile of pessimism and shitposting" "TF2 is dead" "too much effort" "I hope you will destroy the TF2 section" and the worst part is when Kiwi didn't even bother banning after a report, goes to show what kind of work ethic comes from people who moderate a game they don't care about, then complain that there are too many shitposters.

Man seeing this shows how disrespectful some of the mods are. (In my opinion) It feels very insulting to me, and probably to everyone else in this community. They decide to randomly shove the middle finger at us and throw insults at us without good reasoning. People who doesn't care about a game or subforum shouldn't have influence on what goes on there. Again, this is how i feel myself and i'm not speaking for the community in general.

[QUOTE=valvenews;52491184]The tone of the discussion just seems disrespectful to the people who still take this community seriously.[/QUOTE] I mean this is the same mod who posted (image) when a user pm'd and asked why they didn't get the shitposters and not the entire thread. [img]https://i.imgur.com/uOEe2ty.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Stroheim;52491210]I mean this is the same mod who posted (image) when a user asked why they didn't get the shitposters and not the entire thread.[/QUOTE]I feel like its very unprofessional of Craptasket to give an insult to a people asking a genuine question. It boils down in my perspective to "Ha ha lol your game sucks thats why"

[QUOTE=superbro11;52491219]I feel like its very unprofessional of Craptasket to give an insult to a people asking a genuine question. It boils down in my perspective to "Ha ha lol your game sucks thats why"[/QUOTE] I mean I can't blame him, [B]he's also is the same mod who only has two hours in tf2 [U]total.[/U] (according to steam [U]and[/U] the account linked on FP, so who knows maybe he played a lot on some other console, but then why is he modding a PC tf2 forum)[/B] [t]http://i.imgur.com/5TLQ5FY.png[/t] Update: It's apparently [B]4.4[/B] hours according to the stats. He last played tf2 back in [U][B]2012[/B][/U] to get a few mvm achievements. Update 2: Shout out to Hakor: Crap remembers why he was made the tf2 section mod [t]http://i.imgur.com/IfKxK50.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Stroheim;52491210]I mean this is the same mod who posted (image) when a user asked why they didn't get the shitposters and not the entire thread. [img]https://i.imgur.com/uOEe2ty.png[/img][/QUOTE] I hope this isn't one of those situations where you get banned just for showing this though.

There was a TF2 Facepunch discord that someone else had made and has been linked to previously, but it never seemed to have picked up traction and lacks activity. I currently already run a server (unrelated to TF2) with over 60 people in it, so I have some experience moderating. I've made a new one if anyone wants to reside here and join before the inevitable doom of the TF2 subforum. Discord invite: [url]https://discord.gg/mrWVqPa[/url] If this counts against the rules, let me know and I will snip the post.

[QUOTE=Serge Ivanov;52491227]I hope this isn't one of those situations where you get banned just for showing this though.[/QUOTE] I genuinely hope not, that would be extremely wrong of them and shady. It might as well be a dictatorship if you get banned for showing stuff like this.

[QUOTE=Stroheim;52491222]I mean I can't blame him, [B]he's also is the same mod who only has two hours in tf2 [U]total.[/U] (according to steam [U]and[/U] the account linked on FP, so who knows maybe he played a lot on some other console, but then why is he modding a PC tf2 forum?)[/B] [t]http://i.imgur.com/5TLQ5FY.png[/t][/QUOTE] In case anyone was curious, and just to be fair because he's on the album too, I did a comparison with kiwi. It's better at least. [b](again, his account linked on FP [U]and[/U] steam, if he played more or has more hours on console tf2, I'll update it. [U]Last time played est. based on achievements/stats)[/U] [/B] [t]http://i.imgur.com/4j3d51o.png[/t] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Threadshitting 3 bans in 8 days get your shit together" - Kiwi))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Oizen;52369525]There is objectively no difference between MUS and TF2 General[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Craptasket;52491314][/QUOTE] Oizen was wrong then and is still wrong now.

While it falls more under moderation discussion than tf2 discussion, I really like Reagy's professional (in comparison to tasket or kiwi) reaction. I also agree with all above, people who are not part of the tf2s active playerbase shouldn't be influencing the tf subsection. I understand they have to moderate the entire website and not selectively the subforums they like, and while removing the "problematic" to moderate threads seems like a logical solution, there are way better solutions, both community approval and PR/professionalism wise, for example making your mind up on shitposts (ban all, or allow all, no gray areas and rule bending) and enforce it. Also as much as I'd hate to be disrespectful to mods it's really just a case of "thats what being a mod is". A duty you choose to take up as an effort to keep the forums clean and usable for everyone. Nobody ever said it will be easy or fun. You get to be part of the green name club and the slack chat but it comes at a cost of sacrificing your free time and putting in effort. If you don't like doing that, free the spot for someone else who will. There are people that masochistic, willing to do all that for just the green name and satisfaction of giving back to the community, believe it or not. I think it is still TF2 general worthy content because it relates to the state of the tf2 subforum as a whole, right? Also I realise thats not the place to be giving lectures, but I'd also like opinions on that from everyone here. In the end I just kind of care about the whole thing. Registered solely for MUS.

[QUOTE=Craptasket;52491314] [QUOTE]There is objectively no difference between MUS and TF2 General[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] There is effectively no difference in your work as a mod in this subforum and being a lurker in this subforum.

"rebelling against the authority" only makes things worse. moderators always have the final word

[QUOTE=Craptasket;52491314][/QUOTE] If there's no difference then cut general chat. People still use MUS. General chat takes AGES to lock. If you can't find the time to do your fucking job, get some other mods to do it. Jesus Christ. It's so annoying to just see laziness kill off something so many peole still use. I don't like to be rude or come off as rude, but your killing a subforum and a small community of people who enjoy that thread. They enjoy talking to those people, meeting new people, and some people even enjoy the shitposts. I honestly can't believe someone has to explain this simple logic to you. You're effectively just throwing away something people like because [I]you[/I] can't be bothered. Most people don't even complain about the shitpost she. It's really not a huge deal. I probably sound super scatterbrained through all this, but I wanted to get my thoughts out. [editline]20th July 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Hell-met;52491391]"rebelling against the authority" only makes things worse. moderators always have the final word[/QUOTE] I'd rather people get their thoughts in. Nothing's going to change if we don't talk about it.

[QUOTE=RetroFan987;52491161]..... It's honestly a load of bull that mods seem to be not wanting to take any input on whatsoever, or they won't bother making a dedicated poster a moderator instead so they don't have to stress over such a [I]difficult[/I] job of banning 4 people.[/QUOTE] His mouth, not mine. If any mod would like to chime in about this, feel free: (Context: Someone was talking about how when their dedicated mod left mapping, the section did some community/self modding) [t]http://i.imgur.com/EOyLNgG.png[/t]

oh god, I forgot about max. Bad times.

why have people who almost never play tf2 moderate a tf2 subforum really gets the neurons firing

[QUOTE=rolfum;52491470]why have people who almost never play tf2 moderate a tf2 subforum really gets the neurons firing[/QUOTE] Truley a :thinking: moment for the ages.

Because people dont care to make new mods for the tf2 sub forum because they dont care about tf2 in general,so we are just left with what we have right now.