TF2 General Chat and Update Speculation Station - One of Several Edition - Games

[QUOTE=Fluury;52504745]So you are unsure that the things you saw and heard are true yet are sure the thing saying the update ain't coming this week is true, primarily because it confirms your prior beliefs? I know there is the secret tf2 content creators society where they share cooking recipes and make-up tips, but can you be a bit less vague?[/QUOTE] If there is some secret society, i'm not part of it. I saw the same thing as Crash did, that implied that maps havent been selected yet so i was 99% sure update isn't coming out this week, as it takes more than few days to get everything set up for map launch for an update.

I wouldn't be surprised if their sound guys whipped together a jungle soundscape first and said "hey we should make something to go with this." Pure speculation, though.

[QUOTE=UEAKCrash;52504903]It's almost as if implying you have knowledge is even worse than just talking about it while saying you're unsure. I can at least say from my perspective I haven't heard anything yet, only recently that someone emailed Valve about a specific issue they had map-wise and that Valve gave them a suggestion about what to do, and had heavily implied that no maps have been picked for the jungle update yet.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing TF2maps.net?

[QUOTE=ics;52505276] I saw the same thing as Crash did, that implied that maps havent been selected yet[/QUOTE] Can we see this email?

Pics, or it didn't happen

[I]Rumours say that if every TF2 account plays as Pyro consecutively, the update is going to be reliesed..[/I]

[QUOTE=DrVincentWolf;52505150]I am actually doing exactly that, making up for all the time I did not play Medic. It is quite fun, hope they figure out some new way to give Medic a medigun in future.[/QUOTE] Playing medic is only fun when your team is able to survive in confrontation long enough to receive healing, which, unfortunately, isn't really all that often. Most of the time i find myself with bunch of pyros and scouts who run into their death neglecting the concept of cover and maneuvers itself, and i'm forced to pocket one of the "push" members to make it trough it. Or switching class and letting them die just like they did. Everyone says - "comp is communication first and foremost". Comp is teamplay, and teamplay can be mute too, but you have to understand that you don't have to run away from airblasting friendly pyro while on fire, dodge crossbow, that you have to shoot back one-two times friend who's attacking you because he's spychecking, that you have to at least scream "incoming" or "help" when overwhelmed, et cetera, and not just grab rocketlauncher and go frag like in quake /rant

[QUOTE=Creeps;52505801][I]Rumours say that if every TF2 account plays as Pyro consecutively, the update is going to be reliesed..[/I][/QUOTE] I can guarantee you that that is not how development works.

[QUOTE=Metaru;52505888]I can guarantee you that that is not how development works.[/QUOTE] eez joke

And here you guys scoffed at me when I said it would release in August or later. Pfft.

[QUOTE=Chuggoth;52506002]We need AoE medigun that would heal/give uber in a certain radius but only when players deal set amounts of damage or survive long enough under it's effects to receive healing.Just a training medigun that rewards players for being around objectives/high tension spots. I'd want to call it [B]Pavlov's beam[/B].[/QUOTE] Nice one. I like my patients [del]eat[/del] cap on stimulae. It can just give madmilk-type return some part of damage dealt as health effect, but in radius and without recharge. Although i think it will lower amount of work required from medics too much - as you will be just standing around people without any prioritizing needed.

[QUOTE=Chuggoth;52506002]We need AoE medigun that would heal/give uber in a certain radius but only when players deal set amounts of damage or survive long enough under it's effects to receive healing.Just a training medigun that rewards players for being around objectives/high tension spots. I'd want to call it [B]Pavlov's beam[/B].[/QUOTE] Those healing conditions don't seem practical. This is pretty much Lucio's method of healing so just do like him and reduce the HPS compared to the other mediguns. You could even have the HPS scale depending on how many people are in the AOE. The more people receiving heals the lower the HPS per target. Uber could just give everyone an instant % over heal or heal all targets at the standard medigun rate for the uber duration. Not a perfect pitch, just spit balling.

I can see a lot of people watching this thread with bated breath. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the last several updates have had videos showing the taunts in the update page, and those videos went public around the same time or even before the update page went up. The YouTube notification on the TF2 channel would be a pretty surefire way to alert you, it's worked for me.

is the update happening?

[QUOTE=108r5memerz;52506086]is the update happening?[/QUOTE] Eventually. In the meantime...do something else

If the community maps are indeed stil a ways away, then perhaps slit the update into halfs? Official stuff fist, then community content 2nd? We would still be getting a massive update, but also have something for September too.

[QUOTE=CoolJosh3k;52506242]If the community maps are indeed stil a ways away, then perhaps slit the update into halfs? Official stuff fist, then community content 2nd? We would still be getting a massive update, but also have something for September too.[/QUOTE] They should really just straight up tell the people on the workshop to "hurry the fuck up" At this point.

[QUOTE=Drag0600;52506283]They should really just straight up tell the people on the workshop to "hurry the fuck up" At this point.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://my.mixtape.moe/zwtkwz.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Fluury;52506307][IMG]https://my.mixtape.moe/zwtkwz.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Oh, I was already aware of that. I meant they should just say it for real now.

[QUOTE=Drag0600;52506344]Oh, I was already aware of that. I meant they should just say it for real now.[/QUOTE] Valve isn't done with the artpass/props and apparently also the balance changes since we've heard squat about them or Tyler's emails. Its them who needs to get their ass in gear, or at least communicate why it's not currently.

[QUOTE=C. Blades;52506350]Valve isn't done with the artpass/props and apparently also the balance changes since we've heard squat about them or Tyler's emails. [/QUOTE] You have absolutely no proof for the first statement and the second. The release of Jungle Props has been thrown out the door, a second balancing blog post was never confirmed. Tyler's emails could be answered seconds before the Update and/or have also likely been thrown out of the door.

there have been multiple months to work on maps, they should not be the cause of the delay here

Alright. They've been purposely delaying the update and we all know why. They wanna hear us say we were wrong. They want us to say "yeah MyM was bad, but at least you pushed something out so we wouldn't have to wait so long" Well fine. if it'll get the update out, i'll just be the one to say it. MyM sucked at launch, but we know understand waiting till its fully fully fully fully patched out takes a buttload too long, and we dont want to wait that long anymore or again with next updates...... enough agrees will launch the update, but is it worth the cost? On a side note, i recieved a [URL="http://cartonofidiocy.tumblr.com/post/163421237951/toweeks-the-week"]message[/URL] stating we would hear some news today.

MyM still isn't fully fixed after more than a year, so are you saying we need to wait two years to both repair that and deliver new content/balance the game? I think someone at Valve needs to finally realize that this arrangement is untenable. It's time to understand that they've outgrown the startup culture they began with 21 years ago.

Why is valve so silent? Do they not want people to build expectations?

[QUOTE=Fraklin;52506504]Why is valve so silent? Do they not want people to build expectations?[/QUOTE] when does valve make any noise?

[QUOTE=turshitposter;52506548]when does valve make any noise?[/QUOTE] when they're working on something that actually interests them

in the [URL="http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147"]exactly six weeks since the TF2 balance blog post was posted[/URL], the following has happened: oh. fuck.

[QUOTE=CoolJosh3k;52506242]If the community maps are indeed stil a ways away, then perhaps slit the update into halfs? Official stuff fist, then community content 2nd? We would still be getting a massive update, but also have something for September too.[/QUOTE] Plenty of community stuff is ready to go and maps are ready to be ship. The community stuff isn't what's preventing the update from shipping.

the item server is down for me?