The MAYANN Project - Community Update Project

[Petachepas]

Nah, maybe for the bare arm mercenaries, Scout, Heavy and MAYBE Sniper

[Yikes!]

[QUOTE=nonhuman;50447780][URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696328606"]Angry Aztec[/URL]
200% mad
[video=youtube;s4mevibQkV4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4mevibQkV4[/video][/QUOTE]

new god tier unusual

burning team captain come meet your maker

[editline]5th June 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=DeRosaJ;50453517]I also think this would benefit sticking to the original concept looking at it now. I appreciate what you modeled here but maybe work on this version as your own project.[/QUOTE]

I could definitely do your original one as well for sure, glad you're allowing me to work on this one on my own though cause I'm rather fond of it!

[editline]5th June 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=Petachepas;50461554]Nah, maybe for the bare arm mercenaries, Scout, Heavy and MAYBE Sniper[/QUOTE]

engineer as well

[Sims_doc]

Started doing some texturing on my BattleBat, I'm wondering if i should texture more of the item as gold?

[t]http://i.imgur.com/rYaE3pJ.jpg[/t]

[dhully]

I'm mostly a lurker here. I enjoy the various models and maps that everyone here makes.
I'm an animator, and I had made a couple of taunts previously that did get a decent reception though as they probably didn't fit with the style of the game.

[URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=455831601&searchtext="]The Soul Reaper[/URL]

[URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=456518439&searchtext="]The Soul Devourer[/URL]

I was wondering if something like the below video would work for this pack perhaps. It is a maori war dance. It is something that I started working on last year but didnt continue due to work overload.
[video=youtube;CQ6VN4h_S88]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ6VN4h_S88[/video]

[G. Verloren]

I dunno... hakas are a pretty specific part of their culture, and a big point of pride for the Maori, so I'd be really careful about wanting to incorporate them. I'm just not certain it's the sort of thing that makes sense to add to the TF2 mercs, or that it's in terribly good taste - it kinda feels like it steps on a few toes here and there, if you know what I mean.

Now yeah, we do already have the stereotypical Native American headdress items in TF2, but those are already pretty borderline in terms of being kinda cringeworthy and in sort of bad taste. Not saying they're a complete travesty, obviously, but they do kinda lean to the tacky and slightly uncomfortable end of the spectrum - not enough to be a problem as is, but definitely not something to be proud of.

[Sorr]

Got my frog done.

[url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699205962[/url]

What do you guys think?

[TheJukebox]

[QUOTE=Sims_doc;50471399]Started doing some texturing on my BattleBat, I'm wondering if i should texture more of the item as gold?

[t]http://i.imgur.com/rYaE3pJ.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]

Why is it gold in the first place? Dont think their weapons weren't made of gold.

[chandlerj333]

[QUOTE=Sorr;50472465]Got my frog done.

[url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699205962[/url]

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

Theres already an item called "[URL="https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mister_Bubbles"]Mister Bubbles[/URL]"

[rolf]

Mayann project: Where "Hot double frog action" is more than a fake pornhub title

Nice bullfrog though

[Sorr]

[QUOTE=chandlerj333;50472606]Theres already an item called "[URL="https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mister_Bubbles"]Mister Bubbles[/URL]"[/QUOTE]

Oh, I guess i'll change the name if I come up with another good one.

[QUOTE=rolfum;50472983]Mayann project: Where "Hot double frog action" is more than a fake pornhub title

Nice bullfrog though[/QUOTE]

Thanks

[MarkUnread]

[QUOTE=perrryz;50460609]should the bracelets be all-class?
[img]http://puu.sh/phT1a/3fd875b613.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

Man, why the hat does seem like a better version of the ROads to El Tocado?

[perrryz]

[QUOTE=MarcusSmith;50473742]Man, why the hat does seem like a better version of the ROads to El Tocado?[/QUOTE]

Not sure what you're trying to say here, but I did post wips of the hat before any wips of the El Tocado. If I misinterpreted your comment and you were just being nice then I'm sorry and thank you I guess.

[Blade x64]

I did a complete overhaul of my map just for this project.

Before: Boring sea floor
[t]http://i.imgur.com/miYzJ7I.jpg[/t]

After: Atlantis, which is completely related to the Mayans
[t]http://i.imgur.com/54gsRxX.jpg[/t]

[Sims_doc]

[QUOTE=TheJukebox;50472534]Why is it gold in the first place? [/QUOTE]

Got inspired by [URL="http://puu.sh/o4W1P/e7035f4184.png"]this [/URL]and made a [URL="http://i.imgur.com/6IvGPKW.png"]concept[/URL].

[BonkNickeltoon]

[QUOTE=rolfum;50472983]Mayann project: Where "Hot double frog action" is more than a fake pornhub title

Nice bullfrog though[/QUOTE]

Are we really starting this again?

Also, nice addition to the Frog/Toad Family!

[Fbr]

nah blade! let's kick-start an ocean update on the next 72h jam

[Woozlez]

As we haven't seen any scenes showing off how the assets from the prop pack work together, I thought I'd share the little progress I've accomplished on the KOTH map since the pack came out.

Before:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3JWMUER.png[/IMG]

After:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/B9Tgdb8.png[/IMG]

Before:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0dylKk2.png[/IMG]

After:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RJGo6bz.png[/IMG]

[BonkNickeltoon]

[QUOTE=Woozlez;50475437]As we haven't seen any scenes showing off how the assets from the prop pack work together, I thought I'd share the little progress I've accomplished on the KOTH map since the pack came out.

Before:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3JWMUER.png[/IMG]

After:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/B9Tgdb8.png[/IMG]

Before:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0dylKk2.png[/IMG]

After:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RJGo6bz.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Looking good!

I'm also currently working on a map, but it isn't that ready yet.

[MarkUnread]

[QUOTE=perrryz;50474097]Not sure what you're trying to say here, but I did post wips of the hat before any wips of the El Tocado. If I misinterpreted your comment and you were just being nice then I'm sorry and thank you I guess.[/QUOTE]

I was being nice, sorry if you misinterpreted.

[dhully]

[QUOTE=G. Verloren;50471959]I dunno... hakas are a pretty specific part of their culture, and a big point of pride for the Maori, so I'd be really careful about wanting to incorporate them. I'm just not certain it's the sort of thing that makes sense to add to the TF2 mercs, or that it's in terribly good taste - it kinda feels like it steps on a few toes here and there, if you know what I mean.

Now yeah, we do already have the stereotypical Native American headdress items in TF2, but those are already pretty borderline in terms of being kinda cringeworthy and in sort of bad taste. Not saying they're a complete travesty, obviously, but they do kinda lean to the tacky and slightly uncomfortable end of the spectrum - not enough to be a problem as is, but definitely not something to be proud of.[/QUOTE]

That does kinda makes sense. I guess I'd rather steer clear of this concept then.

[exactol]

With some improvements by Logan McCloud, the pyramid unusuals are finally done:
[URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700198307"]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700198307[/URL]

[URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700198307"][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pSpz5L3.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[perrryz]

is there a map in the prop pack? I can't find anything

[TcChallenger]

How do you install the prop pack? (Sorry if this is a dumb question)

EDIT: Installed it properly

[IJCT]

Hi Guys! here is some art references to get inspired:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/animationartgallery/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1020264874716896[/url]

[Sims_doc]

[QUOTE=IJCT;50494110]Hi Guys! here is some art references to get inspired:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/animationartgallery/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1020264874716896[/url][/QUOTE]

That's actually pretty handy!

[MAJekyllson]

[QUOTE=IJCT;50494110]Hi Guys! here is some art references to get inspired:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/animationartgallery/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1020264874716896[/url][/QUOTE]

Terrific art! Some of those textures could prove really useful, thanks! :smile:

[MarkUnread]

[QUOTE=IJCT;50494110]Hi Guys! here is some art references to get inspired:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/animationartgallery/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1020264874716896[/url][/QUOTE]

Now this is talking.

Thanks man.

[K_Factor]

[QUOTE=G. Verloren;50471959]I dunno... hakas are a pretty specific part of their culture, and a big point of pride for the Maori, so I'd be really careful about wanting to incorporate them. I'm just not certain it's the sort of thing that makes sense to add to the TF2 mercs, or that it's in terribly good taste - it kinda feels like it steps on a few toes here and there, if you know what I mean.

Now yeah, we do already have the stereotypical Native American headdress items in TF2, but those are already pretty borderline in terms of being kinda cringeworthy and in sort of bad taste. Not saying they're a complete travesty, obviously, but they do kinda lean to the tacky and slightly uncomfortable end of the spectrum - not enough to be a problem as is, but definitely not something to be proud of.[/QUOTE]

I think you're making too big a deal of that... its a cosmetic based off a dance which originated in a certain place, its not slanderous...

I'm Persian and the Persian Persuader doesn't bug me one bit, even though it's of an Arab design and not even remotely similar to an ancient Persian sword, so technically it's worse than the Maori taunt.

It's a cartoon video game. We shouldn't be so problematic about it. Chill out and just have some awe over human accomplishment rather than be afraid of "appropriating culture" my mimicking a dance.

Peace

[editline]11th June 2016[/editline]

you guys feel an industrial rainforest map theme with some mayan old run down elements underground etc. would fit the theme enough?

[G. Verloren]

Cultural appropriation is a problem when it targets the weak and disadvantaged, not when it targets the strong.

The Maori are a people who have suffered pretty severely at the hands of Europeans, who have faced racism, the systematic destruction of their culture, and generations of poverty and political disenfranchisement. They became second class citizens in their own homeland, ruled over by foreigners who didn't share their culture, religion, or way of life, and whom actively tried to rob them of those things.

The Persians? Not so much. The region has been ruled locally for centuries, and the Persian peoples have been amply represented within their own countries and societies. They aren't an oppressed minority - they are in fact an oppressive majority, historically discriminating against various peoples such as the Kurds and the Azerbaijanis.

In comedy, there's the philosophy that a good comedian doesn't "punch down" and make fun of people who are powerless or repressed - it isn't funny. Instead, you "punch up", and make fun of the people who are at the top of society, because they're in a position to take being mocked in stride. Making fun of the President of The United States of America is fine, but making fun of a mentally ill homeless person is absolutely not.

The same sort of thing applies to cultural appropriation.

Giving a Soviet Ushanka to Heavy isn't particularly offensive, both because the Russians are a major power in the world, and because the Soviet Union isn't actually a thing anymore. But giving him a feathered headdress to wear instead actually is kind of offensive - most Native Americans are still economically and politically impoverished, and their cultures have suffered extensive and irreversible damage. They're still effectively second class citizens in many places, and they still suffer from racism and societal discrimination.

[TheJukebox]

The concern isn't that it's stealing culture or whatever, it's that the Maori are very protective of their haka dance. They have never like tourists taking pictures, videos, or imitating it. They even had a legal battle with the very popular New Zealand rugby team who do the haka before every game.