[QUOTE=Pleather;16178241]Learn2Play. The game is very balanced, every class is useful in certain situations. For example, the scout can only use his shotgun to it's full capabilities at very close range ( <3 ambushes! ). So the "standard secondary shotgun" used by the pyro, soldier, etc. would be more powerful at longer range.[/QUOTE]
Are you implying that you know how to play better than I do? Because I find that really hard to believe seeing as I played Demoman/Scout for one of the top Aussie TF2 teams before they died...
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16169003]Team Fortress Classic has been called Team Fortress Classic since it released in 1999. It has been and always will be superior to Team Fortress 2 in everyway. Sad thing is, Team Fortress 2 was originally going to be called Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms and it was going to be a squad based shooter. What Valve turned the Team Fortress series into is just a dumbed down pile of shit.[/QUOTE]
You're right! The grenade spam was the most intelligent and tactical feature I've ever seen!
[QUOTE=Yobdren;16178489]You're right! The grenade spam was the most intelligent and tactical feature I've ever seen![/QUOTE]
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Stop playing in pubs you noob. If you're going to bash the game for nade spam, I suggest you either get out of pub games or get good.
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Stop playing in pubs you noob. If you're going to bash the game for nade spam, I suggest you either get out of pub games or get good.[/QUOTE]
oh man I'm so we insulted the @@~pros~@@ such as yourself, man i am such a NOOB for playing on public servers, and i need to get GOOD.
Or. Grow the fuck up, realize you're playing a game, then realize that TF2 is better. Couldn't give a toss about competitive play.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;16178656]oh man I'm so we insulted the @@~pros~@@ such as yourself, man i am such a NOOB for playing on public servers, and i need to get GOOD.
Or. Grow the fuck up, realize you're playing a game, then realize that TF2 is better. Couldn't give a toss about competitive play.[/QUOTE]
Better in terms of graphics, otherwise it's fucking terrible and can't even be considered a true TF sequel.
My God, If you want to play the older games you should play the older games, And not fight with everyone because chances are someone is going to have a different opinion.
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16178675]Better in terms of graphics, otherwise it's fucking terrible and can't even be considered a true TF sequel.[/QUOTE]
Actually it can, and is by many tens of thousands of people. And you keep bragging about being so good, we never said you weren't, we just said you are a TFC fanboy and can't accept that TF2 is better, and claim that it isn't balanced. If you think it's not balanced it's because you're getting beaten. Take it like a woman.
Seems like Doomv2 is a troll, amirite? i liked TFC but the nade spam was hell.
I prefer TFC over TF2, but TF2 is fun too.
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16178675]Better in terms of graphics, otherwise it's fucking terrible and can't even be considered a true TF sequel.[/QUOTE]
Shut up goddamn no one cares about you being an ~@~aussie game star~@~
hahahahaaa boxxy avatar are you fuckin kidding me
[QUOTE=Samiam22;16169292]I say TFC is more dumbed down than TF2. In TFC you just spam nades and get points.[/QUOTE]
Not true.
I love how everyone thinks people just spam grenades in TFC, but that simply isn't true. It happens on certain maps with small choke points, but other than that, not really.
[QUOTE=SnakeFace;16178773]Actually it can, and is by many tens of thousands of people. And you keep bragging about being so good, we never said you weren't, we just said you are a TFC fanboy and can't accept that TF2 is better, and claim that it isn't balanced. If you think it's not balanced it's because you're getting beaten. Take it like a woman.[/QUOTE]
TF2 is accepted as a TF sequel by 10k+ people? No, 60% of TF2 players don't even know there was a first TF. You logic and argument is so terrible it should just be considered fail. Oh wait... It is.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;16171471]Rocket Jump was useless, conc jump wasn't really much fun, and sniping was far easier. The only fun map mod was the heavy and medic one.[/QUOTE]
Your kidding me right? Sniping is so fucking easy in TF2. It's the only game I'm actually ok at sniping in.
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TFC and TF2 are balanced just fine.
TF2 has fine balance, the only thing that really would need tweaking is the blutsluger. I only play pubs myself and you can see plenty of good players out there. (But you do get people that don't learn)
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16178486]Are you implying that you know how to play better than I do? Because I find that really hard to believe seeing as I played Demoman/Scout for one of the top Aussie TF2 teams before they died...[/QUOTE]
lol I knew it, you're just talking shit because you're mad that your game died
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I bet you suck too.
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16179549]TF2 is accepted as a TF sequel by 10k+ people? No, 60% of TF2 players don't even know there was a first TF. You logic and argument is so terrible it should just be considered fail. Oh wait... It is.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I can make up statistics too.
oh and like I've said before, you can't make a sequel to a game with no story. lawl
Aside from all 9 classes have uses, rather than just 7.
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16169003]Team Fortress Classic has been called Team Fortress Classic since it released in 1999. It has been and always will be superior to Team Fortress 2 in everyway. Sad thing is, Team Fortress 2 was originally going to be called Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms and it was going to be a squad based shooter. What Valve turned the Team Fortress series into is just a dumbed down pile of shit.[/QUOTE]
Clearly you're the dumbed down pile of shit.
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16178675]Better in terms of graphics, otherwise it's fucking terrible and can't even be considered a true TF sequel.[/QUOTE]
Then play Fortress Forever :v:
Now seriously, stop bragging about how "good" you are, just makes you look dumb.
[QUOTE=Odellus;16179861]lol I knew it, you're just talking shit because you're mad that your game died
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I bet you suck too.[/QUOTE]
My game died? Umm, not, not at all. There are plenty of clans playing in 5v5, 7v7 and ADL, along with pickups all day everyday in #pickup and #tfc.gather.us, plus random friendlies and practices, not to mention the TFC reunion in August with the $1000 4v4 tourny with pickups and random pub fun. Plus there are like 5-10 servers which are usually full(32 players) all during the day and about 10-15 players at night and that's not even mentioning the skill map servers.
Bot filled? Maybe... Dead? Barely...
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[QUOTE=Technopath;16180352]Then play Fortress Forever :v:
Now seriously, stop bragging about how "good" you are, just makes you look dumb.[/QUOTE]
Fortress Forever is worse than TF2, don't even get me started on that pile of fail.
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16180559]Fortress Forever is worse than TF2, don't even get me started on that pile of fail.[/QUOTE]
"Worse than TF2" is a huge margin there, atleast our pyro and engy are half decent and our medics heal.
meanwhile answering the op's question
a long long time ago
in a galaxy far far away
[QUOTE=Shibbey;16180659]"Worse than TF2" is a huge margin there, atleast our pyro and engy are half decent and our medics heal.[/QUOTE]
If you think Engineers in TF/TFC/FF are bad, then you're playing against nade spamming noobs, Pyro is a hard class to play in TFC, but if played right you can own and our Medics heal too, they just don't need to be on your ass 24/7 to keep you alive, because if that is needed, you need to learn to play.
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16180756]If you think Engineers in TF/TFC/FF are bad, then you're playing against nade spamming noobs, Pyro is a hard class to play in TFC, but if played right you can own and our Medics heal too, they just don't need to be on your ass 24/7 to keep you alive, because if that is needed, you need to learn to play.[/QUOTE]
And that's why people don't play TFC much anymore,there is a HUGE learning curve, with all the nades being thrown about and dying every few seconds is why people turn to TF2, which has a much smaller learning curve and can be picked up fairly quickly
That's the reason they removed the nades, so beginners can feel like they are accomplishing something and not rage out in a few minutes
But I love TFC for the Hunted
Jesus, this is like NMA raiding the fallout 3 section.
Give it a break. TFC is good in some ways, tf2 is good in some ways.[B]
BOTH HAVE CONS
DIFFERENT GAMES ALMOST ENTIRELY[/B]
And ffs Doom, almost all your posts in this thread are showing elitism.
It's true that a lot of players never played tfc, but its like that for A LOT of games. Like fallout. Halo3, gow2. Sequels usually dwarf their predecessor, but they will both always have fans and they will fight for some bullshit reason.
So just
shut
the fuck
up.
Each are fun, each are radically different.
Me, i prefer tf2 for a few reasons, and i hate it for a few other reasons. I played tfc and it's fun, but none of my friends ever played it so i stopped playing it myself.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;16180922]Jesus, this is like NMA raiding the fallout 3 section.[/QUOTE]
I could go there too, because FO3 was again, a horrid sequel... If you could even call it that. NMA for life.
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16169003]Team Fortress Classic has been called Team Fortress Classic since it released in 1999. It has been and always will be superior to Team Fortress 2 in everyway. Sad thing is, Team Fortress 2 was originally going to be called Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms and it was going to be a squad based shooter. What Valve turned the Team Fortress series into is just a dumbed down pile of shit.[/QUOTE]
You have Boxxy on your avatar. Thereby your opinion does not matter on this forum. Thank you and good night
[QUOTE=Doomv2;16181051]I could go there too, because FO3 was again, a horrid sequel... If you could even call it that. NMA for life.[/QUOTE]
I call troll. Blatant 4chan influenced avatar, and mocking these great games just to spite us. It was obvious when you pulled the fallout card.
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